Zero Punctuation: Battlefield: Bad Company 2

[MR T3D]

he think its trying to be realistic, and reviews a very MP focused game.
...
...amusing in a cute, "this isn't the type of game you should review" way.

Yahtzee never forgives a game because the multiplayer allegedly makes up for a lacklustre single player experience. He doesn't like multiplayer, remember?

Still its cute that out of all the people on the site, his tastes are least suited to it, and he reviews it.
delicious irony.

 

[soladrin]

Anyone saying BFBD2 is MW2 rip off needs to play the bloody game. The only similarities is that it's a modern combat setting.

And ye, not really funny this review IMO. SP is something i don't even look at in this game. Battlefield didn't even have a SP campaign in the old games.

That said, BF2 is probably still my favourite.

 

[theultimateend]

he think its trying to be realistic, and reviews a very MP focused game.
...
...amusing in a cute, "this isn't the type of game you should review" way.

Is MP focused a PC way of saying "We suck at making video games"?

Just about anyone can make a multiplayer game that gets tons of players. There are facebook games that are just multiplayer with many times the players of BFBC2. Mainly because it doesn't take much to make a multiplayer game.

You make a game with marginally nice qualities, add in a ranking system, add in multiplayer, and you are done. The epeens will do the rest for you.

 

[Arcticflame]

People bought bad company 2 for the singleplayer?

Honestly, I haven't even touched the singleplayer yet, but I'm rank 6 in multiplayer.

Is MP focused a PC way of saying "We suck at making video games"?

Just about anyone can make a multiplayer game that gets tons of players. There are facebook games that are just multiplayer with many times the players of BFBC2. Mainly because it doesn't take much to make a multiplayer game.

You make a game with marginally nice qualities, add in a ranking system, add in multiplayer, and you are done. The epeens will do the rest for you.

Yeah, because your formula you just told me is just simple to do.

"Hey guys! It's easy to do physics! You just come up with a theory, back it up with some maths and distribute it to the wider community. Get a good PR guy and a few lawyers to patent it for you and there you go, physics super star!". :\

Ha. A liberal bashing Fox News, huh? Never seen that before.

Stick to game reviews.

Since when has it been liberals that bashed fox news? I thought it was everyone with >= 1/4 of a brain?

 

[Cardo 8 ATL]

Ha. A liberal bashing Fox News, huh? Never seen that before.

Stick to game reviews.

 

[eels05]

please do silent hill shattered memories I've been waiting for it forever!

Not out in Australia yet,frustrating but true.

 

[The_Emperor]

SHENANIGANS! yahtzee has this thing about reviewing multiplayer because "a game should be able to stand on its single player alone"

should it hell, if you make a game with multiplayer in mind review the multiplayer aswell of course bad companies singleplayer was going to be shit because THEY SPENT ALL THE MONEY ON MULTIPLAYER

if you don't like multiplayer games then review a singleplayer game

reviewing a multi player game and giving it a bad review due to the single player bit is like watching a footballer play keepy up and calling him shit everytime he drops the ball.

bc2 and mw2 had dire sp campaigns the mp was pretty good in both tho. so its unfair to give it a single player review.


yahtzee doesnt do it cos hes shit at multiplayer like me but atleast i dont pretend its some kind of moral objection to games being made with a multiplayer focus.

i love yahtzee but slating games every week gets old. im not even a bc2 fanboy im just right.

 

[Littlee300]

I wasn't exactly thrilled with the first game either. What is it with destructable environments anyway? They look pretty but they never really seem to do anything other than clusterfucking the landscape and giving you an option between doorway and hole in the wall. They can bang on about (and I just read about the guy making Body Count bang on about for about three pages) how they alter tactics and strategy and you can't just hide from tanks in inpenetrable buildings anymore, but the fact is that pretty much every player out there is going to treat it almost exactly the same as they would any Call of Duty of Medal of Honor. I thought we were over this shit about the time Black came out.

I like the destructible landscape since I am able to go into a roof top and blow holes where I want to look out. The enemy is probably aimed on the doorway so i am gonna blow up a hole in back of the house.

 

[NeverMemory]

Come to think of it, there are quite a bit of dust; but truthfully, between the cardboard building and all the blurring light I got from the scopes, I didn't cross my mind. In any case, I thought those were just my PC; I thought I need to upgrade my computer ( although it puzzles me to think that my PC runs MW2 just fine, while this one doesn't).

 

[sneakypenguin]

Actually enjoyed this review, the shear amount of suck that was this game deserves some ragging on. Especially multiplayer, and the destruction engine was incredibly useless and game breaking at the same time.

 

[ScottocS]

Dedicated Servers that work FTMFW!
/sarcasm

Fail marketing by DICE. xD

 

[MegaManOfNumbers]

All his critics are correct on the game, but the game ain't bad, in fact its quite good.

This is one of Yahtzee's "I-hate-this-game-but-you-probably-won't" kind of reviews. yes I categorize his reviews.

on an only slightly related note, Zero Punctuation is the only thing preventing me from COMPLETELY hating Wednesdays.

 

[MegaManOfNumbers]

I like this review because he mention a panther. And I love panthers

[http://img230.imageshack.us/i/000618555.jpg/]

Cute panther kittens FTW

WIN!!!

well thank you

Yathzee hates online shooter games

oh, speaking of which, For the love of god guys, Yahtzee HATES, I repeat, HATES ALL ONLINE in video games (the exception being Team Fortress 2). So lay off guys.

 

[Chicago Ted]

While I think Yahtzee's great, I really had to make an account to respond to this one. This review was a big waste for me. I don't have a problem with the fact that Yahtzee refuses to review a game's multiplayer aspect, but then why even bother to review games where the singleplayer is an afterthought and 90% of the playerbase bought it for the multiplayer. Frankly I was surprised this game had any single player at all as the last BF game I played (2142) had no single player campaign at all. The only reason I even played the campaign at all was to get acquainted with the game before throwing myself into multiplayer (not to mention the servers were a mess on opening day). I was so disinterested in a BF singleplayer component that I skipped through every cutscene and I NEVER do that.

Another thing that's annoying me is the "this is just a MW2 ripoff, although I haven't played the multiplayer or even the game itself, so really I have no clue" mentality. If you played the multiplayer at all you'd see how vastly different the game is. If you want to criticize certain aspects of the game, be my guest, but at least be informed about it.

I agree with everything you say here. I like Yahtzee, but this review was a waste.

Welcome to the Escapist by the way.

 

[Seth Edwards]

Technically MW copied BF2 from the PC (as well as the google map loading screens), but it was BF2 in close quarters. Although they added elements of there own of course, but....... It created a bias hardcore fan base (like every next gen with advertising nostalgia). MW indeed copied from battlefield first, so DICE decided to make $**t hit the proverbial fan by pissing on Infinity Ward's building but with RPGs and air strikes. Did anyone else notice the fact DICE was slamming MW in any way. like the new F.R.A.G.S PSA. Anyways my point is Call of duty MW 1 and 2 would actually be running around saying Battlefield (with actual story) Repeat 3 times. They both copy just MW made a foundation of what made BF2 work, while Battlefield (already established in Modern warfare games) picked at some of the features MW had. I am also in denial that the real MW2 will come out soon and this side story was just expensive DLC. Just like transformers 1 and transformers 1/2 not 2. Mr. Bay was clever.

 

[iTouchy]

the dust was seriously ridiculous. got discouraged to continue playing because i couldnt see through it and the russians could see me perfectly fine. and whats the point of having the silenced SCAR when they can hear you anyways -__-

 

[dj Facchiano]

This is another case of a game made around multiplayer with the single player tacked on the last minute. The entire battlefield series up to the original bad company was entirely about multiplayer and DICE still has not gotten the single player right.

Also, just about everything this game does/doesn't do is because MW2 did/didn't do it. Think about it, what has the game done that either is straight off a rip off to Modern Warfare 2 or highly hyped because it isn't doing it? They stuffed the fact that PC's have dedicated servers and that the game is "single play focused" (which it isn't really) while forgetting to mention the story, pacing and even a good deal of the locations are in the realm of "Painting a stolen car to sell it back to the owner."

Ima go ahead and guess you've never played it as your argument is "ITS IN MODERN TIMES, WHAT A RIP OFF!!!! THEY PUT DEDICATED SERVERS!!!! THOSE IW 1UPPING BASTARDS!!!" Thank you for your time.

 

[addeB]

Yahtzee should really stop reviewing games that everyone buys for the multiplayer.

Agreed. I have watched every one of his reviews on this site, and the ones I enjoyed the absolute least were the games that are either successful thanks to their multiplayer components (Halo, Gears of War, Call of Duty, Bad Company, etc.), or have a terrible one that would be amusing to rip to shreds.

The sad thing is Croshaw thinks that multiplayer is useless. My bad, let me use an exact quote rather than speculate: "Unfortunately I don't give a flying sh*t about multiplayer, and neither do a lot of people." (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/8-Halo-3)

That mentality really carries over to every single game he reviews. I hate to burst your bubble Croshaw, but millions of people care about multiplayer. Hence why the games built around it absolutely demolish the games that lack it in terms of sales and popularity. So by you not actually giving an accurate (or any) account of a games multiplayer, you're successfully excluding an enormous portion of the market.

I just don't get how a reviewer in this day and age could not touch on multiplayer in a game. You wouldn't go to a movie blindfolded and complain about the lack of visiuals, just like you shouldn't play a game without touching on the multiplayer and whining about the lack of complexity, depth, replayability, quality, or whatever redeeming quality that multiplayer typically serves as in this day and age.

"depth"? A very few multiplayer modes have a story, and with out a story, a game doesn't add depth to the game for me. For me multiplayer is just a little bonus that i can use if i get bored.