Zero Punctuation: Crysis 2

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Bobzer77

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BreakfastMan said:
Bobzer77 said:
BreakfastMan said:
Pretty good episode. I especially liked the dig at PC elitists about halfway through the video. :)
..... why?
Because it was funny, and because he did it on a site with a good number of PC Elitists, which takes balls.
No... I mean whats the difference between a console and a pc elitist?

Because you are just being a console elitist.
 

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Lol!! Yeah I still have not picked it up but I am definitely looking forward to it. Sounds like a blast. I think the reason that NYC is depicted so much is because the devs know that is a city to which a lot of people can recognize. I mean considering that a lot of Americans probably have not been to London, or Paris, or some other major world hubs, it stands to reason that the devs would be more inclined to choose a city that the majority of its' audience can relate to... right?
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but that seemed like a positive review... SHOCK!

In all seriousness, I quite liked the first one, and from what it sounds like the 2nd one is more linear but still fun. Good. I don't hate linear in fact I quite like it sometimes. So maybe I need to check this mo fo out.
 

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I especially liked the dig at PC elitists about halfway through the video. :)
Yeah, but then he made the same complaints that PC gamers made i.e. simpler linear levels, lazily developed AIs, less visual 'wow' factor...

So yeah...
 

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I recall Yahtzee's praise of the spaceship for Crysis 1, and it was weird because that was hands down my least favorite part of the game. In fact, whenever I play Crysis 1 nowadays I typically get to that part and call it a day. Missing out on a short primarily turret based escape mission and running around a cramped Carrier are worth missing if I don't have to navigate that completely unintuitive ship.

Anyway, pc power is preventing me from playing Crysis 2, but I look forward to it. It's a shame Prophet died, but then he had all the character of a potato chip, so I guess it's alright. That's probably why they switched to Psycho for Warhead. But then his accent got a bit obnoxious so they'll probably kill him off too, who knows.

Crysis was also paced well (warhead a tad less so), so I'm glad to hear the trend is continuing. I actually liked the quieter more open ended early levels as opposed to the more linear stuff that came further on down the line.

Also a shame (or not) that they didn't balance stealth. It was OP as anything in the first games, and apparently remains such. I beat Crysis 1 and Warhead both without killing anything not listed specifically in objectives with just the stealth function.
 

Marik Bentusi

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Put a smile on my face, entertaining as always.

I was actually surprised by the overall positive attitude throughout the review, Crysis 2 seems to have been a huge disappointed for everyone else and their cat (in the reviewer landscape anyway).
I haven't played any Halo title, but many a reviewer compared the new aliens to Halo ones for example. But maybe you didn't include it because we were already expecting hearing such things. You hipster you.

I can't agree on two things tho:
1) The main character's tragedy. I mean I was positively surprised by that bit of the plot twist, the whole "Dead Man Walking" part, as well as that part later when you find a guy in a test tube, but it didn't have all that much emotional impact rather than being interesting and a refreshing twist from the whole superhero/supersoldier thing. I mean I can imagine how the protagonist could feel, but he could also be a jackass that just doesn't give a shit and I for one find it just interesting (and fun to play).
2) (if you read this, read this to the end) While there are numerous parallels to HL2, I think one of the most important parts was very different at the core, the storytelling. Crysis 2 was much more conventional and delivered in mission-sized pieces whereas HL2 just "flows" better for me. But maybe it's also just because of the setting that Crysis 2's story comes off as more conventional and generic. I mean, imagine HL2 being set in New York. Would change a few things for me.
So yeah, I only partially agree on that one. I can see where you're coming from tho.

Thanks for your work.
 

Xanadu84

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A good review. Through my Yatzee hate-filter, Ive interpreted this as fairly glowing recommendation. And I enjoyed it to. I am refreshed that he didn't call it a brown and grey shooter because that's what he decided it would be before playing. I was wrong about that prediction, and I tip my hat to you Yahtzee.

Id celebrate by going to play Crysis 2 but, lets be realistic here...Portal 2 was just released.
 

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Hmm, I guess I'll rent it on PS3...considering they don't seem to care about PC gamers anymore anyway.
 

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Therumancer said:
New York is a popular target because [...]
Guy from Germany reporting in. From my perspective, New York is a important city, but just as important as about every other capital city of big known countries around the globe and I personally get tired of games taking place in the same city over and over again. There's nothing inherently wrong with doing that, but when considering the possibilities you have...

NY may be important, but I have no emotional connection to it whatsoever. It would be the same if any other major city was affected, that even holds true for Berlin. So while it wouldn't matter to me which big city they pick, I'm uncomfortable with picking the same one again and again because it gets repetitive - but I guess it's easier to "write what you know", many developers have done NY before and such doing concepts is altogether easier. Doesn't make it better for me tho.

It's true NY has a lot of popular landmarks not only known by natives, but people all around the globe, but just keeping on riding this horse means that won't change in the future and we won't get to see landmarks of other cities. And to be honest, despite me knowing those landmarks, I have no emotional connection to their destruction just because it happens. Assassin's Creed 2 and counting does it better with their ingame dictionary that is both informative and fleshes out the world with a bit of snarky humor.

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Groovy. I was a bit skeptical that it would just turn out as another 4-hour-exlposion like black ops but now I guess I'll check it out.

And I'm dying to see Yahtzee take on Homefront, which I'm pretty sure incorporates one HalfLife-ish "OmgLookAtAllThisDeathWarIsTerrible" moment then tosses you a .50 cal and lets you loose on a wave of NK soldiers that are getting their faces melted off. Then it rewards you a high-five and a cliffhanger
Wait, how is Half Life about "OmgLookAtAllThisDeathWarIsTerrible"? Don't you spend almost the whole game kicking alien ass? I mean, it has its dark moments, but I didn't spot any "war is terrible" messages, more like "our oppressive alien overlord regime sucks" messages, if anything.
 

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Thought he'd rag on it more. Still, I preferred it to Crysis1... which is a bit weird, maybe due to my colour blindness...



WTF IS THIS?!
Check your keyboard dude.

[image src="http://lolpics.se/pics/11898.jpg"]
 

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Bobzer77 said:
BreakfastMan said:
Bobzer77 said:
BreakfastMan said:
Pretty good episode. I especially liked the dig at PC elitists about halfway through the video. :)
..... why?
Because it was funny, and because he did it on a site with a good number of PC Elitists, which takes balls.
No... I mean whats the difference between a console and a pc elitist?

Because you are just being a console elitist.
Um... What? How did I give an indication that I am a console elitist? All I said was I liked a particular part of the episode, you asked me why, and I explained why I liked it. I never gave any indication that I thought of PCs or PC gamers as "lesser", nor did I try to lift console games up on a podium as inherently better. I just explained my opinion. Where exactly are you getting this from, and what exactly was the question that you originally asked me (since it seems I might have missed the point)? I think I am missing something here...
 

Marik Bentusi

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BreakfastMan said:
Um... What?
My personal guess is that a) you're either on the "PC side" or on the "console side", b) finding it funny when someone makes fun of PC gamers puts you on the console side by default, c) how dare you?! (He's on the "PC side")

It's silly, but that's my guess.
 

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Neat review, Yahtzee
and, don't worry, just one more day of dodging spoilers for you, until you get to try your hand at Portal 2
Hang in there!
 

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"...Inconvenient erections in a Calvin Klein advert..."

"...It reminds me of HL2 in a good way. Except without the powered suit... oh, wait. I mean except without the alien invasion... oh, wait..."

"I may be remembering that wrong."


Top quotes. Otherwise, I'm looking forward to the game giving my next tower upgrade a hernia.
 

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Wheatley said:
I'm suprised he didn't point out the glaring AI issues this game has. I frequently dont need to cloak because all the enemies are busy walking into walls and dumpsters.
Played through the campaign twice and Iv'e seen the ai behaving like that litrally twice, both on the second playthrough, so your either unlucky or exadurating
 

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good review, a fair one i suppose..
the half-life part..spot on
but i wished he played it on the pc instead of the hexbox. and btw has he played crysis 1 and warhead?

to me, crysis 2 is a love/hate game for me. it has its perks (combat is phun), but it also disappoints me in many aspects (nano powers, suit voice, GRAPHICS, linearity, less-realism, game features, etc).

good game, but imo, still inferior to the first ones.
 

Zhukov

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Eh.

I just didn't have it in me to get excited about this game.

It's all very functional and competently executed but when all is said and done it's just yet-another-bloody-shooter. The story was a pile of arse sprinkled with techno-babble. The characters were paper-thin and utterly forgettable.

However, I do agree with Yahtzee regarding how Alcatraz was completely messed up and only being kept alive by the suit. That worked well.

Not well enough to carry the game though.