Zero Punctuation: Darksiders
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Well I'm thoroughly enjoying Darksiders and I have several points of contention with Yahtzee's review, funny though it was.
1. Not all of us have EVER owned a Nintendo, and hence a Zelda rip-off can be quite welcome.
2. The combat is simple yes, but it's not trying to be Devil May Cry and the God of War games had a combat system no more complex than this in my opinion. 2 basic attack buttons with the shoulder buttons used as modifiers...sound familiar?
3. The art direction was done by a comic book artist called Joe Madueira of X-Men and Battlechasers fame, how was it not going to be over the top? I do agree with the assertion that the style of armour "borrows heavily" from WoW (in some people's opinion anyhow) but since Joe's art actually predates the MMORPG king then *shock* could WoW have perhaps purloined some of it's graphical style from him?
Anyway still a great review as always, keep up the (searingly caustic) good work!
1. Not all of us have EVER owned a Nintendo, and hence a Zelda rip-off can be quite welcome.
2. The combat is simple yes, but it's not trying to be Devil May Cry and the God of War games had a combat system no more complex than this in my opinion. 2 basic attack buttons with the shoulder buttons used as modifiers...sound familiar?
3. The art direction was done by a comic book artist called Joe Madueira of X-Men and Battlechasers fame, how was it not going to be over the top? I do agree with the assertion that the style of armour "borrows heavily" from WoW (in some people's opinion anyhow) but since Joe's art actually predates the MMORPG king then *shock* could WoW have perhaps purloined some of it's graphical style from him?
Anyway still a great review as always, keep up the (searingly caustic) good work!
Actually Bayonetta is much more like Devil may cry. But i suppose the combat in those is close enough.
But....but....He insulted my 40k addictionshankitystick said:
(makes sad whimpering sound)
Seriously though, Isnt God of war a rip-off of other hack-and slash titles, I mean devil may cry was out 4 years before GOW ever saw the light of day. And if I recall, even that wasen't "new".
Now Im not saying GOW doesn't deserve its mantle,
just pointing out that most "popular" and "good" games, are often less innovative then their mid-teer brothers.
While "innovation" is always welcome, change in a title is much more about how its done, rather than what.
A good idea, executed poorly is much less desirable than a bland idea executed flawlessly.
I know this ain't profound or anything, but i really enjoyed that! =D Looks like teh coming few weeks can be filled with god of war induced bile!
I feel like such a troll...
Bayonetta's more of a Devil May Cry clone, being that they're by the same developer. And I think Bayonetta deserves some credit for being actually FUN.
It's difficult to define fun between the asinine adventures and the actual entertainment.
Bayonetta's more of a Devil May Cry clone, being that they're by the same developer. And I think Bayonetta deserves some credit for being actually FUN.
It's difficult to define fun between the asinine adventures and the actual entertainment.
Yahtzee brought up a bunch of points which were valid, but the point is that it was intended to be kind of a rip off of Legend of Zelda...Joe Madureira (sp?) even said as much. I enjoyed the game a ton, as I kept picturing it as LoZ, but with a really badass viking / hell's angel as Link. Sure, it's derivative (really, really derivative) but it does so many things right. I personally really like the stylized, kind of cartoony art, and it was also great to see an apocalyptic game which doesn't follow the brown - on - grey color palate (Darksiders is pretty colorful. The voice acting (with the possible exception of War) is pretty great...Mark Hamill makes a great villain. And I swear Samael was played by Killface. It's definitely worth your time to play it. You may not get 60 dollars of enjoyment out of it, but I sure had fun.
And yes, I do like Warhammer.
And yes, I do like Warhammer.
Actually Darksiders, Dantes Inferno, Bayonetta and God Of War 3 does seem kinda similar. Im still picking up GOW 3 because Kratos is awesome, and hell seems like an awesome place too! 
I didn't know he had a Aperture Science Handheld Portal Device, no no it's completely different. Although the gameplay videos made it look like Shigeru Miyamoto was one of the lead designers.
The only game that's a blatant God of War rip off on that entire line up was Dante's Inferno. Bayonetta is closer to DMC and Darksiders is closer to Zelda. So what the fuck was the point of that slide?
When it comes to games that have taken features from other games what titles do you think have managed to do it well and without being what you would consider a rip off (this isn't disputing what you say about Darksiders but a comparison to something that did it right would be interesting).
seemed like he referenced the thread "is yahtzee a critic y/n" or whatever.. when he said "you might have noticed in all the grown up reviews that.."
good review!
good review!
So, was it good? You never quite said.
It was more: "It's a ripoff, it's a ripoff of another game, it's got combat, art direction.
It was more: "It's a ripoff, it's a ripoff of another game, it's got combat, art direction.