Zero Punctuation: Demon's Souls
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It's just as well, the Japanese have no skill in making videogames beyond simple turn-based RPGs or erotic novels (and even those are highly questionable). And whenever an RPG that tries to copy the styles of American and European RPGs (by incorporating strong medieval themes and using a shit-load of european accents or by just simply NOT using turn-based combat and fucking ludicrous stories with characters who have absolutely no depth) is published by a Japanese company... it never goes over well (as far as I've seen). They should just keep making their shitty turn-based combat and ridiculous hairstyle themes. DON'T CROSS PETER MOLYNEUX, ANDREW GOWER, NOR BIOWARE NOR BLIZZARD! Filthy buggers whoever tries to top those guys in epic medieval games.
That is really what its all about, getting the bills payed. I wonder if Yahtzee gets any joy out of doing these reviews anymore? He seems just as cynical as ever, but he also seems like he's tired; his heart just doesn't seem in it anymore.Photon987 said:
I have a friend that has this game. I asked her if it was any good... she said I don't know I only played it for five minutes. I didn't know why until I saw this.
1: He's already said he has the flu, hence why he sounds so downzondervan said:
2: It's his job. Obviously he has to do something to get paid. Or do you plan on creating a world in which all goods are given for free, and no one has to lift a finger? At some point, you need to come to grips with reality that jobs exist to pay for things like games, bills (cable, internet, et al.), books, and other luxuries; as well as living necessities like running water and food.
3: He's a bloody satirist. Why can't any of you get that? For the love of all that is holy, someone with some common sense please speak up before the droves of trollish imbeciles drown us in their gibbering masses!
Well excuse me for not posting something the second the video comes out, guess having a life prohibits me form posting anything someone might actually read!
Demon's Souls is considered an advancement in modern RPGs, and is highly sought after in all three regions. Going so far as to having people in the UK start petitions to bring the game to their demographic. What the hell are YOU smoking?Azaraxzealot said:
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/rpg/demonssoul/review.html
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/demons-souls-review
http://www.gamecritics.com/brad-gallaway/demons-souls-review
et al.
In summary: You're an idiot.
sat⋅ire  [sat-ahyuhr]rdrouyn said:
?noun
1. the use of irony, sarcasm, ridicule, or the like, in exposing, denouncing, or deriding vice, folly, etc.
2. a literary composition, in verse or prose, in which human folly and vice are held up to scorn, derision, or ridicule.
-headdesk-
He did a terrible job of satirizing the game as he missed out on many points of the game that were ripe for satire. Like the fact that you get invaded by black phantoms out of nowhere which causes frustration. Also the fact that the girl that levels you up wants you to "touch the demon inside of her". Again, for anyone that played the game, it seems pretty mailed in.Axikal said:
EDIT: I am normally a fan of Zero Punctuation, FYI.
I've played the game (and happen to love it, mind you), and thought he did a fine job satirising the struggles of the game. What you're talking about is PARODY, not satire. Learn the difference. And don't try to speak for everyone. Only idiots do that.rdrouyn said:
If you didn't care for the video, fine and well dandy. Not all of his videos are hits, and I personally disagreed with his "views" on Dead Space; but in the end, ZP is meant to be ENTERTAINMENT. They're not full-on reviews of games like the rest of the Escapist site has. If you want in-depth reviews, go read them on the site. ZP is a satirical video series, nothing more. You might as well go to the AVGN for "reviews" of old NES games, if you're that stupid.
I, for one, don't expect Yahtzee to crap out gold every week. I do, however, come here to be entertained. If I wanted a review of a game, I'd go read a bloody review. And I suggest you do the same.
If you're a fan of the series, then how are you not getting the point of it? That's just even more mind-boggling.
--And a note of mention: Yahtzee tends to avoid the Multiplayer components of games, which is most likely why he neglected to go into detail on the Black/Blue Phantom aspects of the game. Read his "Extra Punctuation" article on Multiplayer. The whole point of the video was simply just to satirise the extreme difficulty of the game.
I expect to gain some insight about the game or get a feel about what he didn't like about the game. I also expect him to actually play through the game before criticizing/satirizing/parodying or however you want to call it. This was just the first review where it felt like he played the first two hours of a game and called it good. He's played through games that are much more terrible than Demon's Souls so forgive me for expecting that he woulAxikal said:
d actually play through it.
EDIT - Also he did mention some of the online components such as the messages so why would he neglect the blue and black phantoms?
I personally loved Demon's Souls, it's challenging enough to where you know what you did wrong and how to correct it but not hard enough to be completely frustrating.
[sup]at least most of the time...[/sup]
Demon's Souls is clearly not for everyone, it's mind-numbing difficulty will put people off, but it is definitely a game that I would recommend people to at least try out as you will not encounter a game like it.
Also, just adding to the dodging bit, the dodge move is based on how much your equipment burden is. If it's under half of your maximum burden then you can roll around like a monkey. Above half probably gives you the result Yahtzee had and full or above equip burden won't let you roll at all. It's the little nuances that I find are pretty nifty with the game, like how holding a weapon with both hands increases it's power by 50%.
Overall, it's not for everyone, but I definitely recommend to at least try the game out.
[sup]at least most of the time...[/sup]
Demon's Souls is clearly not for everyone, it's mind-numbing difficulty will put people off, but it is definitely a game that I would recommend people to at least try out as you will not encounter a game like it.
Also, just adding to the dodging bit, the dodge move is based on how much your equipment burden is. If it's under half of your maximum burden then you can roll around like a monkey. Above half probably gives you the result Yahtzee had and full or above equip burden won't let you roll at all. It's the little nuances that I find are pretty nifty with the game, like how holding a weapon with both hands increases it's power by 50%.
Overall, it's not for everyone, but I definitely recommend to at least try the game out.
I get that everything Yahtzee says needs to be taken with an extreme grain of salt because he is paid to brutalize games. The problem is if you look through these comments they're always full of people that don't realize this and actually claim to buy games based on what he says. I mean you yourself responded to someone on this page who started rant about how bad this game was based on Yahtzee's "review". Now this is irritating enough for a large game like Uncharted 2 (which I feel very sorry for anyone that missed out on that one because of what Yahtzee said) but for a game like this that needs all the support it can get, it annoys me that anyone would be deterring people from playing this wonderful game.Axikal said:
The other thing is I do expect Yahtzee to play the fucking game. It's clear from the review he didn't really play it and he really could have gained some real insites and some legitimate stuff to make fun of if he had actually put more than an hour or two into it. I mean it's clear from the review he didn't even discover things like the multiplayer, leveling up or the other four levels. That's just lazy on his part.
And after watching this video, again, I stop to ponder where people are proclaiming Yahtzee is a "pussy". I've yet, (and I'm almost 75% done with the re-watch) to hear him complain about the difficulty. Rather, he cheekily pokes at the way the game toys with you, and pushes you into an almost alarming level of security, before cock-slapping you in the face, and sending you hurtling down into a crevasse.
--after 100% completion of my re-watch, the only place where Yahtzee even "gripes" is at the very end, and even then he's making use of metaphor to point out that Demon's Souls does approach you in a partly cheap manner, and you'd be daft to disagree. Or need I remind those who beat the Vanguard in Shrine of Storms 1-1 by going through the tunnel, standing in just partial view of it, and spamming it with arrows until it died? Or the entire Flamelurker boss battle in which he will randomly spam you with explosive (and excessively stamina raping) fire attacks?
All the video did was point out that at every turn, DS is difficult, and not n00b-friendly. If that's all it takes to scare people off, then good riddance. Cos' you lot helped ruin MW2.
--after 100% completion of my re-watch, the only place where Yahtzee even "gripes" is at the very end, and even then he's making use of metaphor to point out that Demon's Souls does approach you in a partly cheap manner, and you'd be daft to disagree. Or need I remind those who beat the Vanguard in Shrine of Storms 1-1 by going through the tunnel, standing in just partial view of it, and spamming it with arrows until it died? Or the entire Flamelurker boss battle in which he will randomly spam you with explosive (and excessively stamina raping) fire attacks?
All the video did was point out that at every turn, DS is difficult, and not n00b-friendly. If that's all it takes to scare people off, then good riddance. Cos' you lot helped ruin MW2.