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Zero Punctuation: DMC: Devil May Cry
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For me the Devil May Cry series has always been a perfect mix of both style and substance. As such, the biggest problem I to have with DMC is that it seems to favor style over substance. Still, the first Devil May Cry is one of my earlist and fondest PS2 memories, so I'm probably going to check this out at some point.
As far as personality is concerned, I could see the new Dante maturing into the Dante of 1 or 4 better than the Dante of 3. He was immature, full of himself, swore a lot, and reckless in DMC, but he wasn't the clown with no personality that did a bunch of overtly long cringe-worthy stunts in cut-scenes. He is rightfully immature. He still has the ego, the taunts, and the combat prowess of his predecessors.
As far as the game goes, the wealth of options in fighting is nice. The style system stacks points rather easily and allows your combos to hang for 5 seconds before deciding they ended. But there doesn't seem to be much reason for the style system in this DMC anyway. The difficulty is lower, but considering Ninja Theory's past ventures, it's surprisingly palatable.
Pros
The camera is always on key, every attack flows smoothly (first time ninja theory made a good combat system), ordinary enemies aren't as immobile as the ones in DMC4 in its default difficulties, the environments are nice, the character is highly mobile, every weapon pays off nicely, and the upgrade system is a lovely change over past DMC games allowing trial-and-error while no longer punishing you for upgrading. May I also note that it's the first DMC game with a good fist weapon?
Cons
Story (one of Ninja Theory's strong-points) isn't as good as their past ventures; the yellow revive orbs (Extra Lives) are archaic; the point system is silly; the game doesn't penalize you enough in the default difficulties; there weren't enough bosses; and enemies do nothing when you can't see them (a far cry from the tell-tale noises and flashes that were done off-screen in DMC 3.)
Overall, I thought it was rather good as an entry-point to a series..
As far as the game goes, the wealth of options in fighting is nice. The style system stacks points rather easily and allows your combos to hang for 5 seconds before deciding they ended. But there doesn't seem to be much reason for the style system in this DMC anyway. The difficulty is lower, but considering Ninja Theory's past ventures, it's surprisingly palatable.
Pros
The camera is always on key, every attack flows smoothly (first time ninja theory made a good combat system), ordinary enemies aren't as immobile as the ones in DMC4 in its default difficulties, the environments are nice, the character is highly mobile, every weapon pays off nicely, and the upgrade system is a lovely change over past DMC games allowing trial-and-error while no longer punishing you for upgrading. May I also note that it's the first DMC game with a good fist weapon?
Cons
Story (one of Ninja Theory's strong-points) isn't as good as their past ventures; the yellow revive orbs (Extra Lives) are archaic; the point system is silly; the game doesn't penalize you enough in the default difficulties; there weren't enough bosses; and enemies do nothing when you can't see them (a far cry from the tell-tale noises and flashes that were done off-screen in DMC 3.)
Overall, I thought it was rather good as an entry-point to a series..
You do realise they hired outside writers to write both Heavenly Sword and Enslaved? Rhianna Pratchett, who wrote Heavenly Sword supposedly had to rewrite the majority of the script, and Alex Garland who wrote Enslaved had to rewrite their characterisation of Monkey. Both commented on Ninja Theory's writing "capabilities".Second World said:
DmC is the first actual game handled by their in house writers. Guess twice why the "deep, satiric social commentary" in their newest title is so horribly ham-fisted and sounds like it's written by an emo middle schooler.
I would disagree simply because I have metGeneral Twinkletoes said:
Pretty much everything I have heard fans say about this game boils down to "Well, it's a perfectly fine game...BUT HOW DARE THEY DO THAT TO DEVIL MAY CRY!!!"
People seem to just be mad that it's called Devil May Cry rather than have any real problems with the game itself.
Given all the negative stuff Yahtzee had to say about DMC4, apparently something is moving in the right direction if this game got the fairly positive video that it did here.
People seem to just be mad that it's called Devil May Cry rather than have any real problems with the game itself.
Given all the negative stuff Yahtzee had to say about DMC4, apparently something is moving in the right direction if this game got the fairly positive video that it did here.
I don't understand why everyone keeps saying this game is too easy; DMC isn't as hard as the other Devil May Cry games, but that's not saying much, it's still hard, and it has a difficulty setting.
I could understand Yahtzee's complaints about difficulty if he turned the difficulty up as high as it would go and still found it unchallenging, but it sounds like he was playing on easy; I'm not even sure it's possible to end the later encounters of the game with an S rating using only Rebellion, most late encounters you can't even SURVIVE only using Rebellion.
I mean, the game flat out asks you if you would prefer it was more difficult, and people are upset because it did what they asked?
I could understand Yahtzee's complaints about difficulty if he turned the difficulty up as high as it would go and still found it unchallenging, but it sounds like he was playing on easy; I'm not even sure it's possible to end the later encounters of the game with an S rating using only Rebellion, most late encounters you can't even SURVIVE only using Rebellion.
I mean, the game flat out asks you if you would prefer it was more difficult, and people are upset because it did what they asked?
I"m not quite sure what you're getting at by quoting me here; as I said, I understand what it feels like to have a series that started challenging feeling considerably less so. In a way, mainstream FPSes have felt this way to me to an extent: major shootouts feel more frustrating than tense right now, for instance.The_Merchant said:
As far as whatever difficulty Devil May Cry, new or old, may have had, the only thing I have for comparison by experience is God Hand, and I'm not exaggerating to claim that it was a game that was unashamed to kill you with every other encounter (I'm pretty sure 2 deaths would have merited an A or even an S there).
Fuck, if I had a millionth of Dante's mad charisma I'd dress like him every day.major_chaos said:
I'll say to DMC Devil May Cry what I say to all other games that try to have a "social message":
If you're going to rip off 1984, try not to suck at it.
If you're going to rip off 1984, try not to suck at it.
Praising garbage, are we, Yahtzee?
You're losing your touch. This game is a blasphemous abomination unto its parent franchise. I'm surprised you didn't mention Donte looks like Ninja Theory's CEO or whoever.
You're losing your touch. This game is a blasphemous abomination unto its parent franchise. I'm surprised you didn't mention Donte looks like Ninja Theory's CEO or whoever.
I don't understand why so many people are foaming at the mouth because they changed the story and the characters. It's considered a reboot for a reason. What were you expecting? The same game as the original with better graphics?
Which isn't really what I was saying at all. Metroid: Other M took the franchise in a different direction and was awful. Feel free to dislike the game because all of the things you listed in your post were things you didn't enjoy, I wouldn't say your argument is invalid simply because I don't agree with you. My gripes lie with people that simply hate the game because it is not Devil May Cry 3.5. This is not a problem limited to this particular series - see Dynasty Warriors or Call of Duty.xPixelatedx said:
A game should be neither reviled nor propped up by it's name, although that is ultimately a hopeless wish. The game has to function on it's own. New directions/changes should never be discouraged, and are in fact how the original Devil May Cry came to life in the first place, but do not always yield fruitful results.