Zero Punctuation: Duke Nukem Forever
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Not going through 18 pages of posts so excuse me if this has been asked already, but why do people love to beat down on Duke Nukem Forever when Team Fortress 2 took 10 years to develop and everyone lashes it with praise? Seems a bit hypocritical to me when you bash one game for taking so long yet love another when it took just about the same time to develop (even 10 years is a large stretch).
in b4 "well DNF isn't out yet" well obviously, that's besides the point. Given the recent teaser release I would love to play it, i'm just not going to bash it for taking so long because really it's none of my concern.
in b4 "well DNF isn't out yet" well obviously, that's besides the point. Given the recent teaser release I would love to play it, i'm just not going to bash it for taking so long because really it's none of my concern.
1. Team Fortress 2, IMHO, reflects an impressive advancement in multiplayer FPS, both style-wise and in game play. Is it ten years' worth of progress? I'd argue it is. DNF, on the other hand, is now vaporware; pretty much the exact opposite of innovation.icnfde said:
2. Valve released some great, industry-rattling games between TF1 and TF2, and codified a digital distribution system to boot. I'd like to see a list of 3D Realms releases since 1997. I suspect it's both short and lackluster.
3. Valve wisely kept its head down regarding TF2 development. The companies involved with DNF's release (not just 3D Realms) were squawking about it regularly, even while pushing the release date back. To me, the media surrounding DNF resembled any relationship before it commits to divorce proceedings: no one admits fault, the other person is always to blame, and it often dramatically boils down to money.
4. I'm one of the first people to call software developers -- not just game devs -- on feature creep, missed bugs, opaque release cycles, and missed release dates. I have, repeatedly, shot my cosmically insignificant barbs at Valve as well. The current delays behind HL2:Ep3 is a perfect example. The difference is, again, one company has delivered despite hardships. The other folded.
5. There's no greater revenge against one's detractors than living well. Vice versa, there's no greater vindication for a naysayer than being proven right.
Epic bitchslap for 3D Realms for literally fucking around for up to ten years and who now stand going "WTF?" after they finally got shut down. I'd sell half my body and soul just for 10 minutes of legit gameplay of the almighty Duke, but they kinda... took the time... well... the video summed it all up.
I laughed my ass off at this. I can't wait to show this to my cousin. We actually met Duke Nukem's voice actor at Comic-Con last year, and his neice goes to my cousin's school, too. I think the guy would laugh his butt off, honestly, he was a really cool guy.
Great work, Yahtzee! I actually didn't realize this was fake at first too, until he started switching from how awesome it was to how bad it was and then the bit about lawyers during the credits.
In fact.. I'm gonna watch that again.
Great work, Yahtzee! I actually didn't realize this was fake at first too, until he started switching from how awesome it was to how bad it was and then the bit about lawyers during the credits.
In fact.. I'm gonna watch that again.
I honestly thought this had actually come out until I looked at this thread.
Successful troll was successful. I officially feel stupid. xD
Successful troll was successful. I officially feel stupid. xD
He already did, you can play them on his online journal, www.fullyramblomatic.comEricKINGS said:lol definetly one of the best zps yet
i also think yahtzee should make his own game
Is anyone else having trouble with this site? None of the videos are playing and I haven't been able to watch this Zero Punctuation because of it.
Except for the fact that Team Fortress 2 never had the level of 'hey it's coming THIS year (for real)' nonsense Duke Nukem Forever got. Also one must remember that Team Fortress Classic was put out to tide the fans just a year after Team Fortress 2 was announced (with no target date I might add). Other than one rumor in 2003 Team Fortress 2 was basically in information limbo for six years while Duke Nukem Forever seemed to have had a rumor every bloody year from 2001 to the present.icnfde said:
I'm surprised at how many people thought the game was out, and even more surprised to see that there were a few that thought he was serious, my head hurts, it would if I wasn't laughing the absurdity of this. I have no idea how one would fall for it, but I'll just blame this on not knowing better.