Zero Punctuation: E3 2010

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beema

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Oh Yahtzee, I love you. This was immensely satisfying. Your bitter sarcasm towards motion controls is exactly the same way I reacted. Give it a year or two and we'll be back to forgetting they ever existed! I see 3D sticking around becoming more prevalent though. Once the technology becomes cheaper I'm sure every game and it's mom will be 3D. Soon Peggle Extreme will REALLY be EXTREEEEEEEEEME flying in your face!

Why didn't he cover any of the games you say? Because most of the games at this year's E3 were pretty negligible. Most people seem to be shitting themselves over Nintendo's lineup, but I'm with Yahtzee: all they can EVER do is rehash old franchises. How about something actually NEW for once? They are only surviving by appealing to the nostalgia of aging gamers. What happens when the new generation of kiddies comes along who don't have any fond memories of Kid Icarus?
What else were the big titles? Oh, I know, all series reboots (mortal kombat) or sequels (Dead Space 2).
Yeah some of them look pretty cool but I'm finding it hard to become excited about the same old thing with nicer graphics.
 

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FallenMessiah88 said:
Honestly i think this whole motion control thing is getting out of hand. I totally feel like Yathzee does. Why fix it if it aint broken?!
Totally agreed.

I mean come on?!

We really really really don't need anything more to the controllers! Playstation1 controller was high enough in tech when it came. Actually NES controller was good enough. (Anything more is useless, untill they develope some mind control or whatnot.) Games > Controllers. One can not make games better with more complicated controllers.

beema said:
Oh Yahtzee, I love you. This was immensely satisfying. Your bitter sarcasm towards motion controls is exactly the same way I reacted. Give it a year or two and we'll be back to forgetting they ever existed! I see 3D sticking around becoming more prevalent though. Once the technology becomes cheaper I'm sure every game and it's mom will be 3D. Soon Peggle Extreme will REALLY be EXTREEEEEEEEEME flying in your face!
Yes. And brains connected to the game like in the freaking Matrix. Every time you fail level in Peggle Extreme you will bleed from your nose and eyes. xDDD
 

MissAshley

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I would like to offer a moment of silence for the garbage-bagged, road-splat that was Yahtzee's inner child.
 

SAMAS

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Skoldpadda said:
SAMAS said:
Skoldpadda said:
Yahtzee really said it better than I ever could. Motion controls need to fuck off and die. I can't even be excited for the new Zelda, and I'm a huge Zelda fan. I just won't play it with anything other then a conventional input device. I am not going to stand up and flail my arms around like a twat. I laughed at the wasp-comment.

Please let this retarded gimmicky bullshit die in a fire as soon as possible.
Still never played a Wii, huh? You can play Twilight Princess sitting on your ass and moving only your wrists.
I can also play TP sitting on my ass and using normal controls like I've done for fucking ages (on the GC).

I have played a Wii. I hated it. I kept smacking the nunchuck wire in my face and knocking the beer off the table.

Motion controls are retarded. End of fucking story.
You hit yourself in the face with the nunchuck wire? Dude, you suck. No, seriously, you have to be terrible to hit yourself in the head with a wire you don't need to bring up to your chest.
 

rebus_forever

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solidstatemind said:
I'm going to try to clear this up for you people who seem to be unable to grasp the concept:
the issue isn't one of criticism. Criticism is fine. The issue is that many, many people here are insulting rather than criticizing, and then trying to claim that their 'opinion' is somehow legitimate.

Look, somebody a few pages back said he HATES Rebecca Mayes. He thinks she isn't that creative, saying that her lyrics are weak, and her choruses are both redundant and grating as examples of why he doesn't like her music.

I'm fine with that. I don't agree, but that's just me.

andsoitgoes said above: "Egads... that song was terrible. No offense, is it okay? No way."

Now, to me, that's more of an opinion than a criticism, since it doesn't actually mention any specifics-- but still, this is an open forum, and people are entitled to their opinion, so I'm cool with it.

But the tone of those comments are unfortunately the exceptions, not the rule. I have seen far more people say stuff like "oh my God; that woman is a talentless *****" or
calling her "an opinionated whore".

In Logic, it's called argumentum ad hominem, but I prefer to call it being an immature asshole. There is no justification for it; it simply is a person being insulting and degrading to another person because they enjoy the anonymity of the Internet and can be as rude and unpleasant as they wish without any repercussions. The only way to redress their actions is to confront them, which is what some of us are doing.

So NO, it's not about everybody being shiny, happy people and saying only nice things about everything. It's about maintaining a level of civility and reason in the subjects we discuss. Why is this important? Because if everyone is not held to this standard, every single dispute will devolve into name-calling, which gets tedious very rapidly. Every. Single. One.

So yeah, if you have a problem with me taking people to task about being immature and insulting, you'd better just put me on ignore right now, because I'm not going to stop.
rmm"and now its your turn to rip me to shreds" it wouldve been rude not to oblige, woudnt it?
and noone seems to have mentioned shes ginger, credit where credit is due : D
i have in truth done a lot for her, ive had to show everyone i know how bad the song is, and these are people with no vested interest in defending yahtzee unlike me, regardless, ive uped her viewer rating by like at least 10 or so. probably others who dislike it had done the same.
and lol its not there anymore
 

Producer

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You really need to learn to end on a strong joke, and while I laughed at a few points, the ending was not one of them.
 

Dhatz

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truth conveyed by voice that is heard, you spoke what we (some did subconsciously) thought ever since. Other important thing is players choice how to controll the game, stuff GTA was brilliant at when it had 3 slots for every action. But games are stupid enoug not to use automatic toggle/hold recognition and instead put switches in menu. Just relized: How the fuck is motion recognised escape menu?
 

Skoldpadda

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SAMAS said:
Skoldpadda said:
SAMAS said:
Skoldpadda said:
Yahtzee really said it better than I ever could. Motion controls need to fuck off and die. I can't even be excited for the new Zelda, and I'm a huge Zelda fan. I just won't play it with anything other then a conventional input device. I am not going to stand up and flail my arms around like a twat. I laughed at the wasp-comment.

Please let this retarded gimmicky bullshit die in a fire as soon as possible.
Still never played a Wii, huh? You can play Twilight Princess sitting on your ass and moving only your wrists.
I can also play TP sitting on my ass and using normal controls like I've done for fucking ages (on the GC).

I have played a Wii. I hated it. I kept smacking the nunchuck wire in my face and knocking the beer off the table.

Motion controls are retarded. End of fucking story.
You hit yourself in the face with the nunchuck wire? Dude, you suck. No, seriously, you have to be terrible to hit yourself in the head with a wire you don't need to bring up to your chest.
No.
You will find that is you
who sucks.
It's you.

you
 

SendMeNoodz84

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You know, it's funny how you're complaining about the console companies saying how gamers aren't interested about the controllers, they want the games, yet when you play an actual game you tear it to shreds and call it a piece of crap. What do you want? Not every game is going to be as intuitive and amazing as Portal you moron. You can go ahead and keep replaying that until Portal 2 if you want, I'm going to be trying out all the new games as they come out, whether or not there has been a third person adventure game in the past.
 

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well i see a mention of Fable 3, but what about the new Xbox? Dead Rising 2? Portal 2 coming to PS3 with better features? I wish he'd mentioned Dead Rising 2, but it seems like Dead Rising is kind of out of his mind (with only a brief cameo in an earlier episode using it as evidence to state that the 360 had the strongest lineup at launch)
 

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rebus_forever said:
solidstatemind said:
SUPAR SNIP
rmm"and now its your turn to rip me to shreds" it wouldve been rude not to oblige, woudnt it?
and noone seems to have mentioned shes ginger, credit where credit is due : D
i have in truth done a lot for her, ive had to show everyone i know how bad the song is, and these are people with no vested interest in defending yahtzee unlike me, regardless, ive uped her viewer rating by like at least 10 or so. probably others who dislike it had done the same.
and lol its not there anymore
Actually, that's a fair point to make. Yahtzee does tend to make his criticisms with a sharp, bloody, even evicerating edge.

But that's the thing: it's still a criticism and not just an insult. He says "such-and-such is [ insulting comment ], because [ reason ]." Maybe it's not so formulaic, but the fact is that he almost always provides a reason for his venom.

These people I am referring to do not. The insulters usually (rather pathetically) just lazily threw out a couple of gender-based insults for whatever reason, and seldom if ever explain what bothered them about the song. Even when they did offer reasons, I would say that their insults were completely unnecessary, and most likely weakened their argument in the eyes of any person who had two neurons to rub together. After all, they are not Yahtzee, so they haven't publicly established that it's a part of their persona to treat everyone equally abysmally.

And yeah, I noticed that they pulled the song. Thinking from a PR point of view, it's probably because both it has served its purpose, as well as the fact that there is a cap on how useful controversy can be, particularly in this medium.
 

SandroTheMaster

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Huh... I don't know how he got around even mentioning XCOM since he already said he doesn't like strategy games...
 

EvilDictator

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Nice review, its good to get a different (more negative) perspective on E3 once in a while.

That song at the end though ... No. Just no.