Zero Punctuation: E3 2010
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even while i liked the episode 2 things i found rather stupid. firsht the part where he said that no game nintendo is releasing can not be prefixed with the words anoter bloody.
how about kid icarus or kirby who hasent had a proper platformer sinch 2000.
and a bloody dk? where the hell have you been the last one was in 2004 with jungle beat i dont count the new play control one.and the 3d i do agree that 3d in cinemas sucks.but what nintendo is doning is good there doning 3d without glasses i find that rather immersive. it more or less getting you the feeling that your looking trough a guy behind the hero rather than some floating camera.still a good episode
how about kid icarus or kirby who hasent had a proper platformer sinch 2000.
and a bloody dk? where the hell have you been the last one was in 2004 with jungle beat i dont count the new play control one.and the 3d i do agree that 3d in cinemas sucks.but what nintendo is doning is good there doning 3d without glasses i find that rather immersive. it more or less getting you the feeling that your looking trough a guy behind the hero rather than some floating camera.still a good episode
Well that was a bit dissapoitning he mostly only talked about motion control and I don't need someone to make up jokes about how bad it is, I already did that before E3. I was hoping for more info on the actual games but he only mentioned three of them at the end.
Wow. Remind me never to try to achieve popularity on the internet. I don't really like having about 9 pages of largely unwarranted hate forced at me.
Anyway. I found this one to be rather amusing, as it always seems to be. Agreed with point A, disagreed with point C, etc etc.
Yahtzee videos seem to be that dependable fun thing- amorphous, it just chills until I want it, and them it suits my needs in pretty yellow light for five minutes, then goes away to sleep. Nothing too surprising, just an excellent time. And I would not have it any other way.
Anyway. I found this one to be rather amusing, as it always seems to be. Agreed with point A, disagreed with point C, etc etc.
Yahtzee videos seem to be that dependable fun thing- amorphous, it just chills until I want it, and them it suits my needs in pretty yellow light for five minutes, then goes away to sleep. Nothing too surprising, just an excellent time. And I would not have it any other way.
I'm going to give you some reasons as to why comedy and music don't mix very well, and why Rebecca Mayes fails at what she tries to do.
The problem with musical comedy is that it usually boils down to watering down both art forms. In any type of music, if you choose to bring any instrument to the forefront (whether that be vocals, guitar, drums, etc.) the instrumentation that goes behind that cannot do anything too interesting lest it overtakes the "main focus" of the song. In most comedy music this comes down to the delivery of the vocals, and so all the music behind that has to be blander than the lyrics, as they are the focus.
In terms of the comedy being watered down, you have to find a metre of the line and stick to it so that the rhythm of the song is not messed up, and the rhyme scheme also comes into this. In this sense it is hard to come up with elaborate jokes that incorporate effective timing, which is pretty much the basis of all comedy. You end up with people trying to squeeze in bad jokes that they cannot elaborate on, which do not sound good in the context of the music anyway because they also have to worry about the aforementioned rhyme scheme, and usually (especially in the case of Rebecca Mayes) this doesn't really come into their thought process much. What you're left with is a song that sounds childish, and is a cut below any other kind of songwriting.
This is not to say that music should not have a sense of humour, it most certainly should, infact it is one of the most important things to convey in music. However, this is achieved a lot more subtly than simply singing bad jokes. Strapping Young Lad, for instance, do not sing jokes. They are, however, a very funny band. They mock the pomp and "seriousness" of the metal scene without it damaging the music, because it is never foregrounded. The music and production come first. It is simply in the periphery of the listener at all times. It is ironic that music that out and out tries to be funny in actuality is much less humorous than a band that simply poke a bit of fun at things that are on their mind.
Tenacious D are actually an effective example of comedy and music being mixed. They are seen as a comedy band, although I would say they were a legitimate musical group who happen to do comedy as well. If you listen to the first album, there are a couple of out and out comedy songs (which I believe are the least effective on the album), but the rest don't really have jokes, as much as it has lyrics that simply aren't that serious. The music is good, and there is a good sense of humour about it. The comedy in this case comes from the skits, which are very funny and well written. This is not mixing comedy and music as much as it is compiling them together. The music is decent, and the comedy skits separate to that are funny. If they were merged somehow, then I believe each part would be significantly damaged.
In all of these senses, this is where I believe Rebecca Mayes, and most other comedy acts fail. The mixing of music and out and out comedy puts too much focus on poorly written lyrics, and so ends up watering down both the music and the comedy.
Sorry for the rant, it is just something that gets to me. Plus there's also the fact that if Rebecca Mayes didn't do comedy I would still find her voice annoying as fuck. Also, if you're offended by Yahtzee then you clearly don't have a sense of humour and thus do not have any idea of what is funny anyway. Hope this helped.
The problem with musical comedy is that it usually boils down to watering down both art forms. In any type of music, if you choose to bring any instrument to the forefront (whether that be vocals, guitar, drums, etc.) the instrumentation that goes behind that cannot do anything too interesting lest it overtakes the "main focus" of the song. In most comedy music this comes down to the delivery of the vocals, and so all the music behind that has to be blander than the lyrics, as they are the focus.
In terms of the comedy being watered down, you have to find a metre of the line and stick to it so that the rhythm of the song is not messed up, and the rhyme scheme also comes into this. In this sense it is hard to come up with elaborate jokes that incorporate effective timing, which is pretty much the basis of all comedy. You end up with people trying to squeeze in bad jokes that they cannot elaborate on, which do not sound good in the context of the music anyway because they also have to worry about the aforementioned rhyme scheme, and usually (especially in the case of Rebecca Mayes) this doesn't really come into their thought process much. What you're left with is a song that sounds childish, and is a cut below any other kind of songwriting.
This is not to say that music should not have a sense of humour, it most certainly should, infact it is one of the most important things to convey in music. However, this is achieved a lot more subtly than simply singing bad jokes. Strapping Young Lad, for instance, do not sing jokes. They are, however, a very funny band. They mock the pomp and "seriousness" of the metal scene without it damaging the music, because it is never foregrounded. The music and production come first. It is simply in the periphery of the listener at all times. It is ironic that music that out and out tries to be funny in actuality is much less humorous than a band that simply poke a bit of fun at things that are on their mind.
Tenacious D are actually an effective example of comedy and music being mixed. They are seen as a comedy band, although I would say they were a legitimate musical group who happen to do comedy as well. If you listen to the first album, there are a couple of out and out comedy songs (which I believe are the least effective on the album), but the rest don't really have jokes, as much as it has lyrics that simply aren't that serious. The music is good, and there is a good sense of humour about it. The comedy in this case comes from the skits, which are very funny and well written. This is not mixing comedy and music as much as it is compiling them together. The music is decent, and the comedy skits separate to that are funny. If they were merged somehow, then I believe each part would be significantly damaged.
In all of these senses, this is where I believe Rebecca Mayes, and most other comedy acts fail. The mixing of music and out and out comedy puts too much focus on poorly written lyrics, and so ends up watering down both the music and the comedy.
Sorry for the rant, it is just something that gets to me. Plus there's also the fact that if Rebecca Mayes didn't do comedy I would still find her voice annoying as fuck. Also, if you're offended by Yahtzee then you clearly don't have a sense of humour and thus do not have any idea of what is funny anyway. Hope this helped.
I hope it's somethin new, i'm a big fan of Metal Gear but i can't handle any more bullshit with that new rising thing it seems that Konami are makin one last ditch effort to cash in on the franchise.Eponet said:
I wouldn't mind a new Snatcher thou.
EDIT:I should be noted the Mr.Kojima is not directing or writing rising so i can't call it a MGS game.
Well I walked out of that review thinking, "I don't mind Rebecca. She has a nice style which maybe gets repetative but I don't mind."
Having seen the half wits randomly yelling "OMG SHE IS SINGING SHE MUST THEREFORE SUCK BLA BLA BLA MY MOM IS ALSO MY SISTER BLA BLA BLA" I can now only conclude that she is the greatest musicican I have ever seen.
Having seen the half wits randomly yelling "OMG SHE IS SINGING SHE MUST THEREFORE SUCK BLA BLA BLA MY MOM IS ALSO MY SISTER BLA BLA BLA" I can now only conclude that she is the greatest musicican I have ever seen.
the last thing im gonna do is star jumping around in my room like a twat only to suffer muscle seizures and then lose the game.
when these controls are released i can imagine the creators wondering why they only seem to be selling to family packs and casual gamers and not any real gamers.
its just not gonna work.
we know it
yahtzee knows it
The onlyones who don't know it are the creators who believe we will pay out of our arses to swallow down any magic load of crap they deem to gift us with but then wonder why we suddenly projectile vomit all of it all over them.
when these controls are released i can imagine the creators wondering why they only seem to be selling to family packs and casual gamers and not any real gamers.
its just not gonna work.
we know it
yahtzee knows it
The onlyones who don't know it are the creators who believe we will pay out of our arses to swallow down any magic load of crap they deem to gift us with but then wonder why we suddenly projectile vomit all of it all over them.
