bobdole1979 said:
crimsonshrouds said:
bobdole1979 said:
Dragonheart57 said:
A game about WWI? What an interesting twist. Maybe even interesting enough to be worth checking out. I think it even got a recommendation.
bobdole1979 said:
really? you are blaming school shootings on gun control?
No, he's saying that because people oppose gun control so violently, we haven't been able to effectively stop them.
mental illness is the cause of the shootings.
Yes it is, but how easy it is to get a hold of a weapon and murder tons of people before getting stopped has nothing to do with how many massacres happen every other month here in the good old usa. Its odd how easy it is to get a gun and the united states has become high noon at the OK corral. The republicans idea to solve this problem? Keep throwing guns at it.
OT: Well the game Valiant hearts sounds like a good game but i wonder how much it costs.
the gun is just the tool and if they can't get a gun there are a million other ways to do the same thing. Such as just getting in a car and driving into crowds of people.
Look at Chicago since they have banned guns, gun violence has skyrocketed. So tell me again how putting restrictions on guns helps?
There's a lot of cases of people going on murderous rampages in the UK with their cars, happens all the time, I went on one last week because I got annoyed about a Hearthstone losing streak. Oh wait, no it doesn't. The UK has had /three/ massacares since 1987, discounting terrorist attacks from the IRA or the July Bombings. Sure we have stabbings, but that's limited to 1 or 2 people, as it's much easier to overpower someone with a knife. Plus you feel a bit less invincible with a knife.
Conversely, the US has at least 3 school shootings a year (of a the 1-3 deaths variety) and 32 massacres since 1987. That is not good. The point is, the amount of saturation shouldn't have got to that point in the first place there should be far stricter rules and they shouldn't have sold heavy duty weaponry on that scale to every Tom, Dick and Harry who walked into a gun shop in the first place. People could still have guns, they just don't need heavy duty weaponry, and need to check, have safety training and psychological evaluation. The Aurora shootings had the dude purchase a good amount of his gear from the internet for fuck sake.
Sure hardcore criminals will find stuff on the black market, they always will, but I couldn't tell you how I could do that in the UK, because guns are rare here. I couldnt've just "gotten hold of a gun" and gone on a rampage even if I tried. Conversely, if they stopped the sale of guns (which I'm not suggesting they do, just control it), it would be almost in effective, because the country is in an arms race with itself with so much fire power it's ludiocrous. A civilian doesn't need that sort or amount of hardware.
Heck I live in Finland now where you're allowed guns, but you have to be /thouroughly/ checked, and check in, in order to keep it. Two that I could find in the last 20 years. They've even got the Russian mafia on their doorstep.
You can't just control guns in one area, especially not in America and expect it to stick, that's fucking stupid and whoever thought that would work is a fucking ninny. You need control across the whole of the United States, weapons amnesties for heavy duty stuff, more police to enforce it and a better detterant. Controlling it in just Chicago and the surrounding area is stupid, because you just step over the border and get it from the next state, or a mate who lives out state, or I dunno, in a trash can because there's a stockpile of guns to shame Russia during the cold war.
