Zero Punctuation: God of War III

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Mcface said:
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geldonyetich said:
Seems a tad unenthusiastic. Almost as though opening a bar in a major Australian metropolitan area may somehow be draining.

Anywho, at the risk of attracting replies from kneejerking GoW fans, personally I was bored of GoW when I was bored of Devil May Cry. GoW-III may be "fun," but (from the other 3 1/2 minutes Yahtzee was talking) sounds like it's lacking in worthwhile substance.

Lacking in worthwhile substance? I hope you realize that that particular charge can be plausibly leveled at most video games in existence.

If you haven't already seen it this video points out a number of interesting things but what I'm referring to specifically this time around is when he says "right now about 95% of the video games in the world......" near the beginning of the video.

http://www.destructoid.com/rev-rant-fun-isn-t-enough-142052.phtml


But of course Yahtzee probably wouldn't be one to agree with the video as a whole. In his review of Saints Row 2 Yahtzee strongly implies that fun is all that's needed in a game. Of course this also makes his petty God of War 3 nitpicking all the more odd. But then again I've said it before and I'll say it again. Consistency certainly doesn't seem to be Yahtzee's strong point.
As if it's impossible to like a game where you drive around in a huge varity of cars, use a varity of weapons, customize yourself in hundredes of different ways blowing people to hell, and dislike a hack and slash game?

Don't split hairs. Mindless fun is still mindless fun. Does it really matter where it comes from?

And Yahtzee certainly doesn't dislike God of War 3.
If mindless fun is more mindless than fun, it is different.

Interesting. But with regard to the God of War III review it's only conjecture.
 

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13thforswarn said:
Sounds like he's got a sore throat or a cold.

He didn't drop the "Like God of War but" bomb this time... I wonder why...
Because this is God of War. There's no need to drop the "Like God of War but..." on something that is God of War.

Anyway, to the main point of this post. I remember that after people viewed Yahtzee's Assassin's Creed 2 review, there was alot of discussion concerning his voice and how different it was. He then had to devote an Extra Punctuation article explaining why his voice sounded different instead of focusing on something more insightful.

For fuck's sake people, do we really need to keep talking about how his voice is different this time. Yahtzee has already stated that he has a sore throat on a Twitter post and other people here have already pointed that out. Do we need Yahtzee to waste his next Extra Punctuation article on his voice when he could be using it to bring his unique brand of wisdom to us all concerning Kratos' character or the God of War series in general? The answer is no. So please stop talking about his sore throat already!
 

geldonyetich

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And another thing is you at one point described yourself as a "tireless rebutter". What happened with that interesting declaration?
I became an old curmudgeon whose dislike for kids on his lawn has grown to exceed his enjoyment for the pastime of butting heads with them. Although, in truth, I haven't shaken the habit entirely - I'm here, after all - and I'll rebut a lot of topics. However, you're out of luck here because I've come to recognize a situation in which there seems to be zero progress at all as being futile.

Perhaps the other party has overmuch respect for "consistency" (funny how close such a respect is to "wanton ignorance" or "stubbornness"). Perhaps the other side is taking the matter too personally and will expend every fiber of their creativity to opposing everything I say -- perhaps unaware that making excuses not to understand is something any adequately willful 5-year-old can do. Perhaps because the other party only makes adequate time to read the parts of the message they want to read and are overly eager to disregard the rest, like any other drooling serial nitpicker. Perhaps the other party simply enjoys having a belief, in time-honored human tradition, and in doing so has consciously chosen to regard anything expressed to the contrary to be an absolutely unacceptable blemish on the face of mankind.

I'm sure this isn't a complete list of why no progress is being made. They're all easy pitfalls of commonplace delusion that the poor sap on the other side of my message may have succumbed to as easily as breathing. The result is the same: I'm wasting my time. There's a difference between a tireless rebutter and a flat out stupid one.

I'd extend you the same respect I'm demanding here but it's too late now. You've given me too many signs in the wrong direction. You've tripped my futility alarm. I'm more or less positive now that, were I able to bend the very fabric of time and space with the power of my words alone, you would instantly manifest the ability to be in a small pocket dimension where you're still in stark disagreement. Consequently, I've written off this whole back and forth with you in regards to Yahtzee's "consistency" as being a radical difference in perspective.

So, instead, I've undergone a topic shift. I'm telling you to get the hell off my lawn. By that, I don't mean the Escapist - that's not my jurisdiction. Rather, I'm implying you should stop barking up this particular tree (myself) trying to pick an argument. Not unless you want to argue about how sick I am with arguing with you, because apparently that's a topic I am interested in.

Besides, contrary to what my obsessive-compulsive editing of this message suggests, I've better things to do. It's dawned on me that any amount of typing I could be spending here would be better spent working my Indy game. I've a Spanish 102 exam coming up tomorrow, and am subtly wondering when I'll stop ignoring it. These and other matters take higher priority than this deeply ingrained forum habit of mine.

Not a tireless rebutter. Hrmph. Look at all those finely crafted words I made while under the firm belief that they will be ignored or misunderstood.
 

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A1 said:
Mcface said:
A1 said:
Mcface said:
A1 said:
geldonyetich said:
Seems a tad unenthusiastic. Almost as though opening a bar in a major Australian metropolitan area may somehow be draining.

Anywho, at the risk of attracting replies from kneejerking GoW fans, personally I was bored of GoW when I was bored of Devil May Cry. GoW-III may be "fun," but (from the other 3 1/2 minutes Yahtzee was talking) sounds like it's lacking in worthwhile substance.

Lacking in worthwhile substance? I hope you realize that that particular charge can be plausibly leveled at most video games in existence.

If you haven't already seen it this video points out a number of interesting things but what I'm referring to specifically this time around is when he says "right now about 95% of the video games in the world......" near the beginning of the video.

http://www.destructoid.com/rev-rant-fun-isn-t-enough-142052.phtml


But of course Yahtzee probably wouldn't be one to agree with the video as a whole. In his review of Saints Row 2 Yahtzee strongly implies that fun is all that's needed in a game. Of course this also makes his petty God of War 3 nitpicking all the more odd. But then again I've said it before and I'll say it again. Consistency certainly doesn't seem to be Yahtzee's strong point.
As if it's impossible to like a game where you drive around in a huge varity of cars, use a varity of weapons, customize yourself in hundredes of different ways blowing people to hell, and dislike a hack and slash game?

Don't split hairs. Mindless fun is still mindless fun. Does it really matter where it comes from?

And Yahtzee certainly doesn't dislike God of War 3.
If mindless fun is more mindless than fun, it is different.

Interesting. But with regard to the God of War III review it's only conjecture.
Agreed. But he is a critic, it's his job to be funny and unfair. I don't own a PS3 but it's one of the few games I do want to play when I get mine.
 

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SextusMaximus said:
I'm starting to grow weary of all the hate... I understand you want to please your fans, but now you're just nitpicking! You can't complain that a game has TOO MUCH variety... Ah well.
Not necessarily, if a game has too much variety in is weapons/magic/items and it is not a RPG, shooter, or something like it, then some of them will never be used. It's not bad as it is a shame. You want to mix things up and have variety, but if you can dominate by using one weapon and 1 or 2 items/magic those extras are just extras.
 

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What happened to ZP's voice? It sounds like his review of Psychonauts.

Funny review as ever.
I although thought the same thing:
Why do we need God of War 3? Isn't is just God of War 2 but prettier and with an even worse plot?
I'm sure you could just save some money and play through God of War 2 again, and if you desperately want to know how the story ends (SPOILERS! KRATOS KILLS A LOT OF GODS!) then just watch the (unskippable) cutscenes on Youtube.
 

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If Yahtzee had a different kind of sore throat, he could've done that review in a mock-up of Kratos' voice actor...teheee
 

soulsabr

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Man, Yatzee seemed pretty mellow this time around. I think he needs to lay off (or on) the pills and get back to the snap and slap criticisms we all love.
 

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The sore throat voice actually reminds me of his first Escapist video. Retro, baby! :-D
 

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I'm glad he pointed out how kratos became a complete dick. I still like the games, but at this point it's only for the gameplay. I actually can't stand kratos anymore

oh you miss your wife? can't miss her too much if you're banging anything that moves...
 

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Wow this is very sad when Yahtzee has been bashing all the GoW copy/knock offs and now. He sound like GoW is not what he wanted. His whole reveiw might have seemed positive but if the only good parts is keeping the good combat and cleaning up the puzzles so the game play but boss fights are good. I too would be disappointed. Glad I did not go out and spend 60 bucks on something that even Yahtzee sounds like he is depressed and displeased with it. Was it me or did he sound like he was ready to commit sucide.
 

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AdmiralMemo said:
The sore throat voice actually reminds me of his first Escapist video. Retro, baby! :-D
Same here!! Yahtzee's tone in this video reminded me of his older reviews lmao!
Great dialouge though.
 

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I figured he would have liked it a bit more given the former's praise but i guess nothing is perfect. Not even portal anymore since they changed the ending...
This is off-topic but what do you mean they changed the ending? I got an update from Steam, played the last save I had before it had the end credits when Chell's being sucked up and out of GlaD0s, and I didn't see any new ending.
i suppose i should have been specific with my sarcasm (need watch where i point that thing these days) http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/comics/stolen-pixels/7329-Stolen-Pixels-179-Breen-Interviews-Chell
 

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I'm convinced not to buy it now.
i feel sorry for you, while he is right that it seems weird how you had to work so hard to kill one god and now they are dropping like flies, gow3 is a game that should be played by pretty much everyone who is interested in video games. although i may be a greek mythology buff my opinion is not biased in the least bit. this is an amazing game from start to finish. i hope you take my advise seriously and do not pass this game up.
 

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the game itself was rather underwhelming since there was basically no story except slaughter everybody who even thinks of looking at you. The puzzles were great as usual and the best part of the game. One thing that i did differently is that i only used the swords you start with untill i got another weapon and never touched them again. The actual powers you got were pretty much useless though. The bow was crap even fully upgraded and helios` head was useless in combat 99% of the time.
Reading the wikipedia page on this game one nearly gets the impression of a For Rent sign on Olympus at the end of this game. But then again that fits in with the brutal psychotic characterization of Kratos Yahtzee gave us back in his "God of War: Chains of Olympus" review.
 

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Mukil said:
Hey! quick question. Im new to the escapist. Just wated to know why the first three posts got banned? I know you usually get banned for saying ill of someone. But as far as I can say it was nothing offensive? Just dont want to maek the same mistake! (I couldn't find forum rules on the featured content section)
saying "first" or posting a comment on a video before you actually had time to watch the video is frowned upon and will result in punishment. welcome to the escapist, its safer here, and now you know why.