Zero Punctuation: Halo 4
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Well, in-universe, Covenant weaponry is energy-based (what most civilizations will tend towards once they're advanced enough), and is most-useful for taking down energy shields and not against flesh. Human weapons, however, still use projectiles and are thus the best choice for taking on flesh. The reason (as far as I can tell) that the Covenant use energy weapons is because most of their fighting is, traditionally, between other Covenant who also use shields. Alternately, they could have just never been that invested in projectile weaponry in their long history.Waaghpowa said:
Especially in the earlier Halo games, the best way to kill enemies is not to just pick up a human weapon and use that, but to use a Covenant weapon for shields and then switch to a human weapon once the shields are gone. I feel like many of the detractors to the series don't understand that there is some actual design in the fighting if you play it enough.
As for looking curvy and artificial, humans obviously prefer silver and steel coloring and sharp corners, but why would an inter-species coalition of alien bad guys adhere to the same aesthetic preferences?
This isn't necessarily a direct response to you, but your post sums up a lot of what other posters and Yahtzee talked about.
Eh, i had no trouble following the story and i never touched one of the halo books.
You can easily understand the story if you take the time to piece it together, i played the campaign twice (Once on heroic and once on Legendary) and that was enough for me to gain a clear mind about the story but that may be because i wanted to hear the story and did not share Yahtzee's boredom.
You can easily understand the story if you take the time to piece it together, i played the campaign twice (Once on heroic and once on Legendary) and that was enough for me to gain a clear mind about the story but that may be because i wanted to hear the story and did not share Yahtzee's boredom.
Damnation Yahtzee, could you actually play the previous games to get the full story before shitting on a sequel?
As a halo fan i adored halo 4. and i felt it explained everything it needed to explain while leaving enough open to explore in future games.
and whats with people saying Master Chief is a boring character? he isnt, he's exactly what he needs to be.
and why are people saying the game is boring? Up the difficulty. i played that shit on legendary solo and i swear it started getting fucking brutal.
not to mention he ignored spartan ops which expands the story a tad bit and adds more gameplay.
halo is awesome...still.
As a halo fan i adored halo 4. and i felt it explained everything it needed to explain while leaving enough open to explore in future games.
and whats with people saying Master Chief is a boring character? he isnt, he's exactly what he needs to be.
and why are people saying the game is boring? Up the difficulty. i played that shit on legendary solo and i swear it started getting fucking brutal.
not to mention he ignored spartan ops which expands the story a tad bit and adds more gameplay.
halo is awesome...still.
I've been a Halo fan since the beginning, and even though I've read a few of the books the story STILL confuses me. I'm given to understand that there are three new books that perfectly explain the story of Halo 4. And the terminals. And comics. And the webisodes... whatever. I just can't be arsed with it. That has always been the weak-point of Halo for me; it fails to tell an engaging story unless you're willing to at the least spend some serious time reading on Wikipedia.
This was also my complaint for Final Fantasy XIII - a story that made zero sense at the start unless you read the 'codex' or whatever they called it. Listen, don't hand me a fucking brochure (or tell me to go find one) in order to enjoy your story. At the very least, tell an articulated story and let that other media be supplemental. Halo has always been for uber-fans and I was hoping that 343 would change this in order to get more people into the franchise. It was a fresh opportunity that was clearly squandered.
Those gripes aside, I enjoy Halo 4 more than I thought I would, given that franchises rarely do well under new management. Maybe it was my low expectations, I dunno.
This was also my complaint for Final Fantasy XIII - a story that made zero sense at the start unless you read the 'codex' or whatever they called it. Listen, don't hand me a fucking brochure (or tell me to go find one) in order to enjoy your story. At the very least, tell an articulated story and let that other media be supplemental. Halo has always been for uber-fans and I was hoping that 343 would change this in order to get more people into the franchise. It was a fresh opportunity that was clearly squandered.
Those gripes aside, I enjoy Halo 4 more than I thought I would, given that franchises rarely do well under new management. Maybe it was my low expectations, I dunno.
Yahtzee, I would love to play Halo with you sometime. But first, I need to play it for myself. I happen to love playing with Fisher-Price toy guns in a plastic play castle.
Might be why she won't ever keep her fucking mouth shut.Raiyan 1.0 said:
You're not even talking! Close your damn mouth!
Sick of looking as those fucking teeth.
Oh yeah? Well I managed to get bored just glancing at the box art! I got so bored I stopped breathing and had to be resuscitated!Yellowbeard said:
I agree. I'm perfectly fine with keeping console games and pc games away from each other. What usually goes down:Scow2 said:
I play on PC and this game is shitty! Keep it on consoles! This game got ported from console, it's shitty! They moved this game to console, it got more content, the developer/maker is shitty!
I hope to play Halo 4 at some point, played everyone except ODST and like them a lot. I just do most of my gaming on PS3 or indie games on my PC.
Yeah! Well, I was bored of Halo before it was even made. So bored, in fact, I quite literally died.Geo Da Sponge said:
OK so I'll take that as a "meh." I'm surprised he didn't mention anything from Mission 5 other than The Librarian Voldemort's Mom. The amount of idiotic elements in that mission was jarring, and I think it's because a lot of it was about injecting elements from CoD that didn't belong in Halo. You shouldn't need a target designator to operate the giant artillery piece that is on the same giant vehicle that you are, especially when you're target is a giant anti-spaceship laser cannon, that is what an on-board console is for.
That should not have been a problem, you just test out the enemy guns and see what they do. Maybe the lack of a proper health bar is throwing you off?Waaghpowa said:
I would agree with him on the weapon sounds if they weren't made more deadly this time round, the Covy weapons actually sound terrifying, instead of sounding like they were produced by Mattel.
I have never understood the complaints regarding the story, why is it i can play all the games and understand it with little to no questions, and some people get confused when the word "Arbiter" is mentioned? -.- i have only ever heard a few things from the books and looked up a few (unimportant) things on the Halo Wiki, and i understand it near enough perfectly.
I admit, other characters such as Palmer, the Captain and the Commander are a little bland, Palmer is developed more in Spartan Ops, something Yahtzee could of mentioned as, while you need XBl to play it, you can go it alone, kinda like Zombies or Spec Ops.
I wish there was a Boss Battle, but Halo has never had true boss fights (even the Prophet of Regret is killed by button mashing in H2) but they could of done it better.
All in all, it's not by any means perfect, but it's still a good game, and doesn't (in my opinion) deserve the amount of criticism it gets, basically, if you have played it since 2001...you will love it, if you haven't played the other games, you will be left out on the loop a little, but should be able to follow it fairly well, and if you hate the Halo series, don't bother. I would choose this over Black Ops 2 any day.
I have never understood the complaints regarding the story, why is it i can play all the games and understand it with little to no questions, and some people get confused when the word "Arbiter" is mentioned? -.- i have only ever heard a few things from the books and looked up a few (unimportant) things on the Halo Wiki, and i understand it near enough perfectly.
I admit, other characters such as Palmer, the Captain and the Commander are a little bland, Palmer is developed more in Spartan Ops, something Yahtzee could of mentioned as, while you need XBl to play it, you can go it alone, kinda like Zombies or Spec Ops.
I wish there was a Boss Battle, but Halo has never had true boss fights (even the Prophet of Regret is killed by button mashing in H2) but they could of done it better.
All in all, it's not by any means perfect, but it's still a good game, and doesn't (in my opinion) deserve the amount of criticism it gets, basically, if you have played it since 2001...you will love it, if you haven't played the other games, you will be left out on the loop a little, but should be able to follow it fairly well, and if you hate the Halo series, don't bother. I would choose this over Black Ops 2 any day.
i think you really need to have started halo at a young age to fully appreciate it. i think Yahtzee just doesn't understand it for that reason, starting off in halo 3. 1 and 2 were the best anyway.
the thing i personally disliked about halo 4 was the lack of signature halo music. thats what made the series for me. my favourite cut-scene was when it played some of the original music.
the thing i personally disliked about halo 4 was the lack of signature halo music. thats what made the series for me. my favourite cut-scene was when it played some of the original music.
oh for the love of god are you kidding me??? No I never went back to the campaign after doing the play-through and in all honesty games shouldn't require to play "HARD AS HELL SETTING" to unlock a secret ending. Time to hit up you-tube I suppose <_<L0N3W0LF911 said:
I remember playing Halo 2 on my original Xbox, which was my first experience with Halo at the time, and thinking it was incredibly boring. I played Halo 4 thinking it would be just as boring but actually had a good deal of fun with it. Playing it on Heroic in Solo and then Legendary Co-op gave a great deal of satisfaction everytime I managed to beat the next encounter.
Can't wait to see the Call of Duty Black Ops 2 review. hehehe
Can't wait to see the Call of Duty Black Ops 2 review. hehehe
I was really looking forward to 343 really messing around with the Halo formula and instead they made the safest blandest entry in the series to date. Oh well maybe now that they've proven to the fanboys they can make the old boring Halo they like they can make a new crazy Halo that people like me will like next time around.
As a long-suffering fan of Halo, I'd say Yahtzee is fairly on the money. It's still a good game, unfortunately with a pedigree like Halo, nothing short of groundbreaking would make the fans (myself included) happy, and boy oh boy did 343i play it safe with this one.
I've found on the hardest difficulty human guns aren't worth carrying around for longer than it takes to find their alien equivalent. A nice contrast to the BR being the best gun around on easyWaaghpowa said:
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