Brilliant review as always. Love the bit about the stupid ways he kept dying. Can't wait for next week.
Zero Punctuation: Halo: Reach
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That was a shout out to his Halo 3 review, one of his earliest videos when he still used licensed music for the opening and ending credits and he used that song ('Hello' by the Beatles for those too sad to recognise it) for the opening music, using that exact line.Undead Dragon King said:
I thought he raised a number of fair points and I especially like the part about the whole "Noblest Death Contest". However, his critique of the story rings hollow when he won't even pay the most basic bit of attention to it. Specifically, he criticizes the game for being "the first battle" and the soldiers instantly knowing how to use Covenant weapons. All you have to do is look on the back of the box and it mentions that humanity has been "fighting the Covenant for decades". There are a few other nitpicky errors, but it wouldn't take away from his point.
I was kinda surprised he said "same weapons", because I thought Bungie did a changed a lot more weaponry than I expected. They retooled a lot of Human weapons (new pistol, new rifle, a grenade launcher, and an artillery target marker), got rid of a bunch of redundant Covenant weapons (like the battle rifle and sniper rifle knock offs), and added some new good ones (like the Needle Rifle). Though in fairness to Yahtzee, on regular difficulty, the game lets you work well within your comfort zone in regards to weapons and if you could probably get through it without trying many different weapons.
I'm still shocked he said that single player stood on its own. And he gets kudos for doing more than calling it "Halo 3 with Jetpacks" which is the lazy way of saying "I HATE HALO!".
Off Topic: I'm hoping they make a multiplayer spaceship mode in DLC. They'd need more maps than the two in the campaign, but I figure those are included to justify it as DLC.
I was kinda surprised he said "same weapons", because I thought Bungie did a changed a lot more weaponry than I expected. They retooled a lot of Human weapons (new pistol, new rifle, a grenade launcher, and an artillery target marker), got rid of a bunch of redundant Covenant weapons (like the battle rifle and sniper rifle knock offs), and added some new good ones (like the Needle Rifle). Though in fairness to Yahtzee, on regular difficulty, the game lets you work well within your comfort zone in regards to weapons and if you could probably get through it without trying many different weapons.
I'm still shocked he said that single player stood on its own. And he gets kudos for doing more than calling it "Halo 3 with Jetpacks" which is the lazy way of saying "I HATE HALO!".
Off Topic: I'm hoping they make a multiplayer spaceship mode in DLC. They'd need more maps than the two in the campaign, but I figure those are included to justify it as DLC.
Wow. Why do ZP comment threads always end up being Internet shouting matches??? I like the Escapist so much because usually that isn't the case... at least on other forums. But I will admit that it's been happening more and more lately.
Topic 1:
Y'all really need to learn the difference between subjective and objective. Having an opinion is fine and all, but spewing them about and touting them to be absolute fact makes you into as big (or bigger) a dickhead as the meta-cunts that Yahtzee refers to.
It also causes anyone with greater than a high school education to immediately discount your statements as being emotionally-based, biased homerism or hating. (Yes, the mandate for objectivity applies equally to both sides of a debate.)
The lone exception I saw was the dude above who complained about specific points and provided examples, like the pistol being too damaging and not having enough ammo. He was then rebutted by the guy or gal who pointed out that the power of the pistol is intentionally offset by limiting the ammo supply. Both are valid observations, and causes the reader to decide which constitutes 'good' in his own opinion: Big damage/limited ammo, or less damage/more ammo.
That's a good debate. (For myself, I kind of liked how Bungie switched it up: the 'big dmg/rare ammo' mechanic is what 99% of FPSs use for the sniper rifle. It was refreshing to me to see it with a "starting weapon".) Not this "LOMLOLOL!11!11 Haloz are teh sux!" "NO HALOP RULZ!!" childish blathering.
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Topic 1:
Y'all really need to learn the difference between subjective and objective. Having an opinion is fine and all, but spewing them about and touting them to be absolute fact makes you into as big (or bigger) a dickhead as the meta-cunts that Yahtzee refers to.
It also causes anyone with greater than a high school education to immediately discount your statements as being emotionally-based, biased homerism or hating. (Yes, the mandate for objectivity applies equally to both sides of a debate.)
The lone exception I saw was the dude above who complained about specific points and provided examples, like the pistol being too damaging and not having enough ammo. He was then rebutted by the guy or gal who pointed out that the power of the pistol is intentionally offset by limiting the ammo supply. Both are valid observations, and causes the reader to decide which constitutes 'good' in his own opinion: Big damage/limited ammo, or less damage/more ammo.
That's a good debate. (For myself, I kind of liked how Bungie switched it up: the 'big dmg/rare ammo' mechanic is what 99% of FPSs use for the sniper rifle. It was refreshing to me to see it with a "starting weapon".) Not this "LOMLOLOL!11!11 Haloz are teh sux!" "NO HALOP RULZ!!" childish blathering.
Second point, in re spoilers:
Third point, in re Advertisements:
You realize that the Escapist is a business venture, right? And that they have to pay the authors for all this content you enjoy so much? If the ads are so awful,
Read the 6th box down. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/registration/subscribe]
And it costs far, far less than a video game.
Have a nice day!
See, you're a perfectly reasonable and civil person who doesn't like Halo but doesn't try to force his views on other people. I have absolutely no problem whatsoever with people like you, and wish everyone could be like that. Yet here I am, getting into a debate with an elitist who apparently considers Halo fans to be chimpanzees. *sigh*Lordofthesuplex said:
Oh oh, by the way, I've seen a lot of people saying that or asking whether yahtzee liked the game. If you didn't happen to catch the first part about terrible plot, repetitive gameplay, and bland characters, no he didn't like the game. It was not a "good" game for him. It was maybe average at best.
This isn't an MMO, but take Team Fortress 2. It's like judging it by the target practice mode thing that they've got. It's just a different style of game.Cmichaels said:
No worries, I understood you well enough.Theistic said:You're quite right. I think I should've made it clear that I wasn't counting in the price.SelectivelyEvil13 said:
Then again, if you're buying a primarily multiplayer game you should know what you're paying for: a multiplayer experience
With Halo, you could argue that campaign mode is just an extra feature. Many Halo players don't even bother with it. It's like buying GTA IV for the multiplayer for them.
In the end, it doesn't really matter since this is just an opinion and some want their entire package to be flawless while others will be satisfied with just a stellar part of it.
Then again I have to pay ~$100 USD for a new console game so fuck, I have to enjoy everything.
I sympathize with the cost situation, which is where I think that a lot of games run into "value" problems, leading to the whole used market dilemma. I would like to support Reach, but for $60, I may as well buy something else that will hold that price's value for the long term.
Like you said, the campaign is not going to be the meat of Halo. I beat Reach's storyline on a rental after a few days, so that online becomes really important.
Anyone else get flashbacks to the Upperclass Twit of the Year when he had the coffins in first, second, and third?
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HA! I knew I felt deja-vu while watching that part! That was a great MP skit.The Sorrow said:
OT: BTW, I hate to crush the hopes of the people who wanted an ONI sequel, but if I remember correctly, the April announcement by Bungie was that they were developing a new IP for Activision/Blizzard.
First off, what am I taking out of context and how?WilliamRLBaker said:
Secondly I've never read anything about them growing to love it. All I've ever read [http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=249196] is that the entire studio hated the "Combat Evolved" part and merely grew to accept it.
Another shity review... I only watched this because it had the words halo and reach in the title... So you people say he enjoyed it a bit? What is he like when he hates a game?