Well there was one line in there that I'm surprised some gamer grrrrrrls haven't raged over yet. Ah well, give it time.
Zero Punctuation: Infamous 2
- Thread starter Yahtzee Croshaw
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I'm really glad you gave this a decent review, it feels like inFamous just never quite manages to break out when they really do so much right. It was a good thing Prototype didn't do it again with the sequel as well. They aren't even the sort of games that should be compared
Liked the game, but not without some criticism.
I still don't understand why i have to be evil to use fire and good to use ice. Is fire evil and ice good? I don't know. All i wanted is to be good but also use fire. So i had the rank Hero, the best good ranking possible. I bought me some good powers and then there was time to decide which power i would take.
I choose Fire, because i like the power. Boom, Cole turns evil. Level 1 Evil, a simple thug. Claps Nix (fugly Nix!) on the ass and talks like some horny freak. So, now i'm evil, i don't have any access to my good powers any more. Rock Bottom, the beginning.
So in order to use the new power i have to go evil. I spend 1 hours and a half killing innocents and draining people on the ground just to become evil enough to use the powers that i already should have.
This game has some serious game-design issues.
Not to mention that it also has the most frustrating parts of the first game. Sure there aren't as many snipers anymore, but the accuracy of the enemies is still ridiculous. They can throw grenades at you from miles away and they land in front of your feet. They use old-ass RPG's from the Afghan war with an accuracy beyond a sniper rifle. Which wouldn't be a problem if they weren't one-hit weapons. So you die instantly after a 20 min. fight. Killed by some maggot. Same thing goes if you land in water. Boom you fly through the air, land on water. You're dead.
Enemies also seem to be able to look through walls. Otherwise i can't explain how a Titan could throw ice blocks at me with a huge building between us. The Titan must also knew alot about physics as the ice just flew enough over me to land directly on my head.
It's a cheap way of upping the difficulty curve, without investing any time in the AI. I had so many situations where an enemy would just stand there and do nothing, waiting to be killed. I had enemies running off rooftops and killing themselves. I saved civilians who'd then run off rooftops to kill themselves.
It also shares the bad character-design from the first one. Seriously just look at Nix. What the fuck? What's with the claws? What's with the asian chick? Why is she still wearing her Agent Smith trousers and those high heels while wearing some weird cocktail dress on top? What's going on there at Sucker Punch? They really need to let go of these kiddy character-design. It's the complete opposite of the environment design which is just breathtaking. Seriously, absolutely beautiful environments. Stunning, very detailed, thought out and original. Can't praise it enough. Same goes for the animations, while some of them are comical (I'm looking at you Ice-Men) it's so smooth and fluid, you can only be impressed.
I still don't understand why i have to be evil to use fire and good to use ice. Is fire evil and ice good? I don't know. All i wanted is to be good but also use fire. So i had the rank Hero, the best good ranking possible. I bought me some good powers and then there was time to decide which power i would take.
I choose Fire, because i like the power. Boom, Cole turns evil. Level 1 Evil, a simple thug. Claps Nix (fugly Nix!) on the ass and talks like some horny freak. So, now i'm evil, i don't have any access to my good powers any more. Rock Bottom, the beginning.
So in order to use the new power i have to go evil. I spend 1 hours and a half killing innocents and draining people on the ground just to become evil enough to use the powers that i already should have.
This game has some serious game-design issues.
Not to mention that it also has the most frustrating parts of the first game. Sure there aren't as many snipers anymore, but the accuracy of the enemies is still ridiculous. They can throw grenades at you from miles away and they land in front of your feet. They use old-ass RPG's from the Afghan war with an accuracy beyond a sniper rifle. Which wouldn't be a problem if they weren't one-hit weapons. So you die instantly after a 20 min. fight. Killed by some maggot. Same thing goes if you land in water. Boom you fly through the air, land on water. You're dead.
Enemies also seem to be able to look through walls. Otherwise i can't explain how a Titan could throw ice blocks at me with a huge building between us. The Titan must also knew alot about physics as the ice just flew enough over me to land directly on my head.
It's a cheap way of upping the difficulty curve, without investing any time in the AI. I had so many situations where an enemy would just stand there and do nothing, waiting to be killed. I had enemies running off rooftops and killing themselves. I saved civilians who'd then run off rooftops to kill themselves.
It also shares the bad character-design from the first one. Seriously just look at Nix. What the fuck? What's with the claws? What's with the asian chick? Why is she still wearing her Agent Smith trousers and those high heels while wearing some weird cocktail dress on top? What's going on there at Sucker Punch? They really need to let go of these kiddy character-design. It's the complete opposite of the environment design which is just breathtaking. Seriously, absolutely beautiful environments. Stunning, very detailed, thought out and original. Can't praise it enough. Same goes for the animations, while some of them are comical (I'm looking at you Ice-Men) it's so smooth and fluid, you can only be impressed.
Vocab (and reference to inFamous 1) aside, it was a bit too similar to the inFamous 1 review...
*shrug*
And shlock horror, a sequel that he actually liked...
*shrug*
And shlock horror, a sequel that he actually liked...
Why would they be called anything else? They are a militia. The only militia. And the ruling force.TimeLord said:
Unimaginative as it is, calling them the Bertraninis would be ridiculous and illogical.
Well, I liked inFamous 1 (that I got for free after the PSN hack), so I'm looking more deeply into getting this one as well.
Going to guess there'll be a lot more of the "You couldn't have liked it, PS3 exclusive!11!" stuff.
Anyway. So far I like it (and hey, Thanks for spoiling the shit out of 1 for me, but then the demo of 2 did that too) but the moral choice system really is 1 or the other. If they completely took all the choices out of the game, folks would probably bitched about the lack of choice or some such.
I bet they'll work on it for the 3rd game since it's pretty clear everyone goes 100% one way or the other.
Anyway. So far I like it (and hey, Thanks for spoiling the shit out of 1 for me, but then the demo of 2 did that too) but the moral choice system really is 1 or the other. If they completely took all the choices out of the game, folks would probably bitched about the lack of choice or some such.
I bet they'll work on it for the 3rd game since it's pretty clear everyone goes 100% one way or the other.
What's this Yahtzee gives 2 none violent review, one after the other, adn neither of those games where sillent hill 2 or psychonauts?! This means one of 2 things either Yahtzee's gone soft(as if) or game deveolpers are actually improving
Oh, PS3 exclusives. How you mock me by dangling your exotic beauties in my face. And yet they don't seem enough for me to set up another mass of wiring and a big bulky box next to a TV. But then the Vita pops up like a "B"-grade English paper, with exclusives that only need inFamous to make me interested enough to surely buy. And yet I don't even know if I'd have the time to play them, seeing how little I play my PSP.
On another note, I wonder what Yatzee will have the EP on. He already railed on moral choice bollocks in the Epic Mickey XP, its EP, and the Fable 3 XP.
On another note, I wonder what Yatzee will have the EP on. He already railed on moral choice bollocks in the Epic Mickey XP, its EP, and the Fable 3 XP.
Wow, that's the first time I've felt that Yahtzee wasn't as harsh as he should have been. Seriously, those're the only nitpicks you had?
I was a lot more critical of the game in my review [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.296612-Hypnotic-reviews-inFAMOUS-2#11728410] of it! I never thought that would happen!
Also, Yahtzee, only the good ending is canonical.
As for this one, he's definitely gone soft.
I was a lot more critical of the game in my review [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.296612-Hypnotic-reviews-inFAMOUS-2#11728410] of it! I never thought that would happen!
Also, Yahtzee, only the good ending is canonical.
How was the last one none violent?Titan Buttons said:
As for this one, he's definitely gone soft.
Wow, he liked it... I liked the first Infamous (at least in the sense that it was quite a bit more interesting than Prototype), but never thought the sequel could be something. Might just have to check it out.
I'm surprised that people aren't correcting Yahtzee for assuming that evil and good I2 endings were roughly the same, when they are DRASTICALLY different.
Other than that I see his points, for the most part.
Other than that I see his points, for the most part.
Got the inFamous off PSN's welcome back package and this review makes me consider buying this game too.
But Yahtzee might be losing his mind, as proved by using memes and saying LOL instead of an ironic "ha ha".
But Yahtzee might be losing his mind, as proved by using memes and saying LOL instead of an ironic "ha ha".
Well, I wasn't expecting him to give it such a high rating. But if a game gets off without less than 10 complaints from Yahtzee I'm sold.
As for an in-depth and involving story, tacked on to free roam gameplay (A pretty rare combination, usually you see a linear game with a great story, Bioshock, while on the other hand you see a balls to the wall free roam game with just the worst story ever, Just cause2.... or 1.... they both had the same story) It seems like infamous2 is a top contender for Yahtzee's game of the year award, and well deserved by the sound of it.
As for an in-depth and involving story, tacked on to free roam gameplay (A pretty rare combination, usually you see a linear game with a great story, Bioshock, while on the other hand you see a balls to the wall free roam game with just the worst story ever, Just cause2.... or 1.... they both had the same story) It seems like infamous2 is a top contender for Yahtzee's game of the year award, and well deserved by the sound of it.
