Zero Punctuation: LEGO Indy

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Magister2005

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I'm just happy that he's finally expanding his horizons. First webcomic tutorials, now movie reviews. Soon, the whole world shall feel the wrath of Canadian Lumber! Oops...wrong forum.
 

Landslide

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Arbitrary13 said:
I really wish the Escapist would remove those rotten integrated ads at the end of the feature.
Ads pay salaries. Without ads, there are no salaries, and therefore no content. Essentially what you're asking is for us to stop paying our contributors and staff. That's not something we want to do, and I don't think it's something you'd want us to do either.
 

Allan Foe

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Today we morn the passing of our dear friends Intro and Outro Music, may they rest in peace.

I can understand the copyright problems, but the new theme music is just BLAND and UNINSPIRED. Try again.

Otherwise, OK review I guess.

PS. And what's with that unnecessary short intro AND that fancy-pants background in the end credits? ANNOYING!
 
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Landslide said:
Arbitrary13 said:
I really wish the Escapist would remove those rotten integrated ads at the end of the feature.
Ads pay salaries. Without ads, there are no salaries, and therefore no content. Essentially what you're asking is for us to stop paying our contributors and staff. That's not something we want to do, and I don't think it's something you'd want us to do either.
Hrrrm...that's a very poor argument. There are many ways to advertise and gain money without having specific tailored ads.
I'd be tempted to say that no-one who watches ZP doesn't know about De-Rez et al; and those that don't, probably don't want to.
 

star_topology

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m_jim said:
I did think "sell out" just a little. The pirated music gave it the anarchic vibe that I love about ZP.
Here we go with the "it's too mainstream for my tastes."

Not to pick on you in particular, but really, who cares about a polished "professional" intro that is all of 5% of the total runtime of the video? If something is popular and crafted well, it will be picked up by someone with money and they will put their watermark on it. It's a necessary evil.

Now if Yahtzee had to "tone down" his shtick, then we'd have an argument about selling out.

While the style has changed just a bit, the substance is still the same, people.

/omg I liked NSync when they were underground!!1!one
 

sky14kemea

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lolz, i kinda liked lego star wars, but the humour on it was.. painful
i havent tried the new lego indy yet, and i cant be bothered to buy it, but if its anything like lego star wars then i have nothing bad against it
oh and i agree, there are only 3 indie movies!
 
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Yahtzee is a amazingly intelligent reviewer and watch his reviews over anything like ign's reviews i think are bogus.
i don't like lego games at all i find them hard to take seriously as a game and not just as a total money profitable game for no other than the annoying kids that bug their mums for games.
^^^feel free to post hateful comments about me lego lovers
 

Evan Waters

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The new theme strikes me as just a little generic. I've already got it jumbled up with whatever song they were using to promote the PS3 a month or so back (that "ladies and gentlemen" one.) It doesn't seem to me to characterize ZP very well. I understand why there is a set theme and was actually wondering a while back why they hadn't gotten nailed for copyright violation yet (are the older articles going to be changed retroactively or what?) but maybe this could use some tweaking.

Still, I'll get used to it, and it's a good review overall. I think there's a point at which George Lucas bashing passed the point from "legitimate criticism" to "creepy fandom vendetta"- even if the prequels + Crystal Skull were all irredeemable shit (a view I don't hold, but for the sake of argument and NOT starting some tangential thread I'll avoid getting into that) he at least made some good films way back when, setting him above your Michael Bay types- but then snark is the name of the game here.

I've not yet gotten to play Lego Indy, but I do recall melee combat was not the best part of Lego Star Wars unless you had a lightsaber. The "getting pushed off the edge by the other guy" problem seems new, though. Still, sounds worth playing.
 

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About the ads at the end, I find them annoying because my Internet isn't that fast. So after watching a ZP-review and leaving the tab on (for example, to show a part of it to my brother) and then proceeding to watch another video, means the another video doesn't load fast enough because the ads after ZP are still loading.

Not that big of a thing though, more of a minor annoyance.

Inriri said:
I'm gonna find you and steal your hat one day.

For me, Lego Indiana Jones shares the same fun as Crackdown: Pissing off your friend by repeatedly blowing him up with a rocket launcher
Could you please tell the name of the video where your avatar is from? I've forgotten it.
 

Jack Spencer Jr

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Ian Dorsch said:
Yeah, it was created specifically for ZP. I'm not sure if it would be appropriate to comment beyond that, so I won't.

I appreciate the feedback either way. I know it's not going to be everyone's cup of tea, and the ZP crowd is nothing if not vocal about their opinions. I'm just happy that a decent percentage of posters likes it. If I hit 50% I figure I'm doing alright.
Ah hello, Ian. If you appreciate feedback and (hopefully) constructive criticism, then hold onto your hat if you've got one.

I won't say the theme is bad. I'll leave that to the "OMG dis theme suxx0rz" crowd. If anything I would say it doesn't really fit ZP. Granted this is an entirely subjective opinion, but a hard rock guitar and the fancy-pants editing is... let's call it different from the more low-key open visuals (I think they're called "cards" in the industry, aren't they?)

I realize you had little, if anything to do with the visuals, but in case that guy is reading, I'll say that I preferred the static images on the titles to all the movement with no purpose. The opening for ZP now looks like the opening to any other internet video.

And similarly, the opening theme sounds like the opening to any other internet video, especially any with a rock guitar opening. Your cryptic comment leaves me speculating that this might have been a last minute rush job thanks to a law suit of something. Maybe not. I suppose it doesn't matter from my end, does it.

But, as I said, the theme is bad so much as I'm not sure if it fits the show. I'm sure everyone else has their own half-baked opinion on this, but theirs are most likely wrong. Were it me, I would have gone for something slower, softer and low-key. The Phantom Hourglass review opened with "Slow Boat To China" which I think is a better sort of piece to open the show. Yahtzee's speedy delivery would be contrasted with the more relaxed theme.

I don't know. Just one douche's opinion, I guess.
 

Ford-Prefect

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yet again another entertaining opinion, I don't think the intro music fits though, nothing wrong with it, its just too raw in comparison to the well mannered, rationally delivered rage.
 

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Boopsiekins said:
ThaBenMan said:
Ian Dorsch said:
Glad to see that some of you guys are liking the new intro music, anyway. :)
Don't listen to the whiners, man - you did a great job.
I guess I should say that it blows ass comparatively. On its own it's fine, but we basically went from fuck-awesome music selections to mere adequacy. It's a fall, not a lateral shift.

I got interested in The Kinks because of these intros. I could have gone my whole life without having heard "Village Green Preservation Society." :(
I also greatly like The Kinks, but unfortunately lawyers also like...making money out of copyright infingement. Yahtzee's success means he has to be a bit more...professional in his choice of music, which I understand.
Anyway, his choice of music was always more based on the title of the song rather than the relevance of the actual music to the review.
 

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Landslide said:
Ads pay salaries. Without ads, there are no salaries, and therefore no content. Essentially what you're asking is for us to stop paying our contributors and staff. That's not something we want to do, and I don't think it's something you'd want us to do either.
I wholly understand what you're saying. I just preferred the old method where the ads/trailers/whatever were a separate file that played after the feature. Also, although I've only admittedly skimmed them (wondering if there's anything relevant hiding in there), they only seem to advertise other Escapist stuff. So... I'm not sure how it pays the bills if it's all in-house.
 

Evan Waters

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Arbitrary13 said:
Landslide said:
Ads pay salaries. Without ads, there are no salaries, and therefore no content. Essentially what you're asking is for us to stop paying our contributors and staff. That's not something we want to do, and I don't think it's something you'd want us to do either.
I wholly understand what you're saying. I just preferred the old method where the ads/trailers/whatever were a separate file that played after the feature. Also, although I've only admittedly skimmed them (wondering if there's anything relevant hiding in there), they only seem to advertise other Escapist stuff. So... I'm not sure how it pays the bills if it's all in-house.
Because it encourages people to buy the merchandise, which makes them money.
 

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PLEASE go back to the old intros! The just had so much more charm. Honestly, because of that I found it hard to laugh at any of the jokes in the review.
 

Ian Dorsch

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Jack Spencer Jr said:
I won't say the theme is bad. I'll leave that to the "OMG dis theme suxx0rz" crowd. If anything I would say it doesn't really fit ZP. Granted this is an entirely subjective opinion, but a hard rock guitar and the fancy-pants editing is... let's call it different from the more low-key open visuals (I think they're called "cards" in the industry, aren't they?)

I realize you had little, if anything to do with the visuals, but in case that guy is reading, I'll say that I preferred the static images on the titles to all the movement with no purpose. The opening for ZP now looks like the opening to any other internet video.

And similarly, the opening theme sounds like the opening to any other internet video, especially any with a rock guitar opening. Your cryptic comment leaves me speculating that this might have been a last minute rush job thanks to a law suit of something. Maybe not. I suppose it doesn't matter from my end, does it.
I appreciate the constructive criticism. I don't even mind the OMG suxorz crowd. We knew there would be a wide range of opinions on this, and I honestly expected there to more flames then there are.

My reluctance to comment just comes from the fact that I'm simply a hired gun on this project, not the producer or the creator of the series. It would be unprofessional to make myself a ZP spokesman when I'm not a decision maker, that's all. I can definitely say, though, that it wasn't a last minute rush job. :)
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Landslide said:
Arbitrary13 said:
I really wish the Escapist would remove those rotten integrated ads at the end of the feature.
Ads pay salaries. Without ads, there are no salaries, and therefore no content. Essentially what you're asking is for us to stop paying our contributors and staff. That's not something we want to do, and I don't think it's something you'd want us to do either.
Hrrrm...that's a very poor argument. There are many ways to advertise and gain money without having specific tailored ads.
I'd be tempted to say that no-one who watches ZP doesn't know about De-Rez et al; and those that don't, probably don't want to.
As you may have noticed, many sites embed ZP, and as a result, their readers may have no idea about the other content offered here. The trailers are designed to let non-Escapist regulars know that there are many, many good reasons to come here.

The incredibly good looking staff, for example. Also, cookies.

As for the idea that "those that don't probably don't want to," how on earth does that follow logically? I encounter new things that enjoy greatly practically every day -- I didn't know about them before, but I'm glad I do now. I'm sure you've got one or two examples like that from your own history, too.
 

ANTX81

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the review was good, not my favorite but that doesnt really matter

as for your new format i like the music choice and set up, but miss the songs hints on how you thought the game would be and i shudder at th thought of not discovering butterfingers through one of your older videos

lastly, the movie review at the end was priceless! i laughed so hard my recently created wisdom teeth holes started to bleed
 

Kurtz79

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Opacic said:
Okay, fine, in Temple you have a guy's heart being ripped out whilst still alive but that pales in logical comparison to surviving a nuclear explosion in a lead lined fridge and then STARING at the mushroom cloud merely (probably) a kilometer away.
Well, it may be surpassed in the near future as the most ridiculous escapade in movies history by Angels and Demons, when Robert Langdon jumps off an helicopter using a car sunscreen as a makeshift parachute, but I'm not sure. :)