Zero Punctuation: Metroid Other M

[OceanRunner]

You just summed up exactly why I'm steering well clear of the game, Samus always just worked as a silent protagonist in the same way that Gordan Freeman does, giving her a voice was dodgy enough without doing it in such a plain and overdone way with a boring stereotypical story. :|

I also see the Half-Life style in Metroid Prime. Cutscenes are succintly used to open and close the story, and announce a boss battle or key item pickup. It let you enjoy the ambiance and music of the game world. Samus' personality comes out best through the gameplay itself, showing her as a strong and confident combatant, witha caring side, as shown in Echoes where she closes the eyes of a dead soldier.

 

[duckers101]

haven't played it but now i dont want to ^_^

 

[epsilon246]

The space pirates were still around to revive him after prime, they wern't after super metroid
I don't think you get what ptsd is, and she was never caught of guard in the prime games and in previous encounters there wasn't really the technoligy to show it was there?

There are Space Pirates in Fusion. So clearly there are more of them after Super Metroid. And in Prime 3 Ridley gets disintegrated.

Also:


This to you is not "caught off guard". Ridley appears ready to attack and immediately dives at Samus.

You like to say distintergrated don't you? Also who says the pirates in fusion aren't clones themselves? and those are X-parasites anyway. Samus faught Ridley a few months before, it's not a leap to suspect the pirates might try to revive him so it could come down to a hunch.

These are the facts: samus has ptsd, ridley is the source of that ptsd, samus believed ridley to be dead for good, Ridley's appearance caught samus by suprise and led to a ptsd attack.

 

[mr_rubino]

The space pirates were still around to revive him after prime, they wern't after super metroid
I don't think you get what ptsd is, and she was never caught of guard in the prime games and in previous encounters there wasn't really the technoligy to show it was there?

There are Space Pirates in Fusion. So clearly there are more of them after Super Metroid. And in Prime 3 Ridley gets disintegrated.

Also:


This to you is not "caught off guard". Ridley appears ready to attack and immediately dives at Samus.

You like to say distintergrated don't you? Also who says the pirates in fusion aren't clones themselves? and those are X-parasites anyway. Samus faught Ridley a few months before, it's not a leap to suspect the pirates might try to revive him so it could come down to a hunch.

These are the facts: samus has ptsd, ridley is the source of that ptsd, samus believed ridley to be dead for good, Ridley's appearance caught samus by suprise and led to a ptsd attack.

*sigh* Thank you. That was perfect.
You crammed that desperate fan theory down our throats as gospel truth (again) without any more explanation that "cuz she does" and completely discounted the exact thing you just saw with your own eyes so you could better ignore someone else's arguments: Samus being "caught by surprise" and not ovulating into her codpiece in terror.

 

[Warachia]

Moviebob would like it because it's not an FPS and it's an exclusive Wii title, asking him what he thinks is like asking this guy what he would think:

If MovieBob is a Nintendo Fanboy, then what the FUCK is Yahtzee? And if you say creditable then that just proves you're a hypocrite, an elitist, a ZP fanboy who dreams of sucking Yahtzee's cock and above all a hack just like that bitter drunken Aussie piece of dogshit. As I've said in the discussion regarding IGN's little flame-war magnet "Killing Samus", MovieBob is ten times the gaming expert Yahtzee ever will become! And this review proves it!

This was nothing but Yahtzee regurgitating not only his biased anti-Nintendo smear campaign like always but the same stupid ass complaints about non-existent control problems, sexism, and character derailment that X-Play started up in the first place. So yeah, Yahtzee's pretty much lowered himself to the same level as the lowest form of video game journalism and I hope he fucking proud of himself for doing it. It just only cost him any chance at ever being labeled a human again.

It's flat out stunning that you would be proud of talking about a flame war, much less having actively participated in it, to the point where you come onto other threads to bash people who refuse to conform to your beliefs, if they could read them through your vast array of petty insults that is. If it is possible for you to rely intelligibly, then explain why Bob is right, Yahtzee is wrong, instead of screaming at everything you see.

 

[Dr. Paine]

The Prime games don't really count.

There's only your sayso for that. The clear production intent is for all of the Metroid games to take place on one timeline. Different visual design in the Federation troops is not enough to base a continuity break on, most military forces have quite a number of different systems which do similar jobs, and that's even within one branch of a service.

Word of god states the Prime trilogy as canon.

Ignore it if you want, but it's still a true part of Samus' story. And hey, Nintendo forcibly canonized Prime, maybe they can denounce Other M...

 

[GloatingSwine]

These are the facts: samus has ptsd, ridley is the source of that ptsd, samus believed ridley to be dead for good, Ridley's appearance caught samus by suprise and led to a ptsd attack.

And as noted this is bullshit because it is out of character with previous presentations of the character of Samus. Inconsistent character portrayal of this type is bad storytelling (to go with all of the other bad storytelling in Other M), and your rationalisations do not save it from being so.

 

[Enigma6667]

Loved the impersonation of the voice acting and shi--WAIT there's a special episode this Friday???

WHHHHUUUUUUUUUUT?

 

[mr_rubino]

Moviebob would like it because it's not an FPS and it's an exclusive Wii title, asking him what he thinks is like asking this guy what he would think:

If MovieBob is a Nintendo Fanboy, then what the FUCK is Yahtzee? And if you say creditable then that just proves you're a hypocrite, an elitist, a ZP fanboy who dreams of sucking Yahtzee's cock and above all a hack just like that bitter drunken Aussie piece of dogshit. As I've said in the discussion regarding IGN's little flame-war magnet "Killing Samus", MovieBob is ten times the gaming expert Yahtzee ever will become! And this review proves it!

This was nothing but Yahtzee regurgitating not only his biased anti-Nintendo smear campaign like always but the same stupid ass complaints about non-existent control problems, sexism, and character derailment that X-Play started up in the first place. So yeah, Yahtzee's pretty much lowered himself to the same level as the lowest form of video game journalism and I hope he fucking proud of himself for doing it. It just only cost him any chance at ever being labeled a human again.

It's flat out stunning that you would be proud of talking about a flame war, much less having actively participated in it, to the point where you come onto other threads to bash people who refuse to conform to your beliefs, if they could read them through your vast array of petty insults that is. If it is possible for you to rely intelligibly, then explain why Bob is right, Yahtzee is wrong, instead of screaming at everything you see.

Chill. He's just pining for Nintendo's heyday, when the stories could fit on a napkin and everything was so much more simple. (Before we had to start completely throwing our beloved mascots under the bus just to excuse poor writing like poor not-a-badass Samus)

 

[sacredwolf82]

His special episode comes out the same day as the international release of Civ 5.
What do you guys think?

 

[JPH330]

His special episode comes out the same day as the international release of Civ 5.
What do you guys think?

He doesn't like strategy games, remember?

 

[epsilon246]

The space pirates were still around to revive him after prime, they wern't after super metroid
I don't think you get what ptsd is, and she was never caught of guard in the prime games and in previous encounters there wasn't really the technoligy to show it was there?

There are Space Pirates in Fusion. So clearly there are more of them after Super Metroid. And in Prime 3 Ridley gets disintegrated.

Also:


This to you is not "caught off guard". Ridley appears ready to attack and immediately dives at Samus.

You like to say distintergrated don't you? Also who says the pirates in fusion aren't clones themselves? and those are X-parasites anyway. Samus faught Ridley a few months before, it's not a leap to suspect the pirates might try to revive him so it could come down to a hunch.

These are the facts: samus has ptsd, ridley is the source of that ptsd, samus believed ridley to be dead for good, Ridley's appearance caught samus by suprise and led to a ptsd attack.

*sigh* Thank you. That was perfect.
You crammed that desperate fan theory down our throats as gospel truth (again) without any more explanation that "cuz she does" and completely discounted the exact thing you just saw with your own eyes so you could better ignore someone else's arguments: Samus being "caught by surprise" and not ovulating into her codpiece in terror.

You know something take a look at this http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/81909/ptsd-or-weakness-real-experts-on-why-samus-didnt-shoot/ a real veteren and expert have stated that this is ptsd looks like, you want a reason this is the first time in a game? This is the first time metroid has been so story heavy. This is the time they chose to play samus' ptsd. Samus is emotional scarred and ptsd is an illness she has as a result. She was already under alot of mental stress as a result of the baby metroid ridley's appearence was just the last push.

 

[LazarusRaven]

His special episode comes out the same day as the international release of Civ 5.
What do you guys think?

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.234132-Yahtzee-Leaving-the-Escapist-Reviewing

 

[Snake Plissken]

I was really hoping that the "Check out my screw attack" comment wasn't just a reference to Metroid. I was sincerely hoping there was something at screwattack. Sad day

There is. And it comes to us from none other than MovieBob.

I give you the Game OverThinker [http://gameoverthinker.blogspot.com/2010/09/episode-40-heavens-to-metroid.html].

Yeah, I watched that last night. I enjoyed it thoroughly. I meant Yahtzee on screwattack, specifically.

 

[Casual Shinji]

I guess that's why silent protagonists should remain silent: When you get them talking they'll never shut the fuck up.

 

[Warachia]

Wow. Molten Rivers of Flame Galore!

I never would've thought it.

As always, Yahtzee's review was delightful, insightful, and positively spiteful... of course, that's what I'm looking for- entertainment- since I absolutely would not ever take his advice on whether or not a game is worth purchasing. He has way to many biases.

Y'know what? You're right. Yahtzee pretty much put this up at the worst time: right after I subjected myself to IGN's cheap attempt at gaining views yesterday. I'm just going to close this forum window out for a day or two and maybe come back after I've let this whole thing blow over.

Still I stand by my opinion: Yahtzee pretty much lowered himself to IGN and X-Play's levels what they call "entertainment" and I hope he's damn proud of himself for sinking that low.

Ignore him. He's the typical Paragon of Independent Thinking (TM) who's angry that people agree with Yahtzee that, quite simply, "Bad game is bad". Just look at this kid throwing his impotent temper tantrum in every post. The stink of the Nintendo fanboy is all over every cliche in his post.

I'm not a Nintendo fanboy. I'm just sick of people complaining about a console I like sucks for the most ignorant reasons. The fact that Yahtzee has yet to directly insult Microsoft and the 360 doesn't change that.

Here's a fun fact for you: Yahtzee has ALWAYS been at that level of making fun of items, and tearing them apart. He's been doing it for the past I think 6 years since he had his own website. The difference is he explains his reasoning, and is easily the best in his business

 

[RowdyRodimus]

I'm glad that Spoony and Sean Malstrom hated other M. And like Spoony said, I don't think Metroid series will survive after this.

Sean Malstrom is an idiot strawman with only illogical hatred for the world around him who claims to know what makes Metroid good even if he has bashed Zero Mission, Fusion and Super Metroid in the most illogical way possible. Also, he thinks "Metroid should be a trippy game where you kill Metroids!"
Also, even if he has a point here and there, he is a horribly boring writer. Don't give this man any more attention.

And while I really like Spoony because he is funny and one of the most entertaining web reviewers, he didn't even play the game through and really overreacted.

I don't mind people hating on Other M, but at least do it with some actual reasoning.

My question is who is this Spoony I keep reading about here, why do their opinions matter so much and on top of that, why should I care what this Spoony person says? Is he some kind of industry insider? I ask this with no malice towards them, I just have no idea who they are.

OT: I liked the game better than Prime, but the Prime games were just Nintendo trying a "family friendly FPS" IMO and I just can't get into 1st person games for some reason. Plus, Samus has never been written as a real character, so her portrayel here is the first time they tried any real characteristics other than bas ass action grrrrl. Hell, if a person didn't know better and only played the 2D ones without finishing them (well, the 1st one anyway) they would think it's just another action game where you play a robot.

 

[Dody16]

I liked the game personally, but I totally agree that the story was pretty much terrible.
The game does have some issues with the first person mode, and the difficulty isn't as high as it could have been, but combat in it of it's self was fairly enjoyable (at least until you get the one ability that pretty much can kill all enemies in one hit. Second thought, there are two abilities that can do that, but you only need one. . .)

EDIT: I was also surprised by how Team Ninja handled Samus, but I definitely could tell that they took a little too much joy in showing her in her zero suit. Oh, and the narration sucked. Also, it was weird how Samus wasn't the "bad ass" she is in all the other games and during combat. I'm sure everybody gets emotional when they meet their long lost father figure, but considering what she's been through, you'd think she'd at least be a little more. . . independent.

 

[sirkai007]

Brilliant as always Yahtzee. I had my suspicions about this game to begin with.

I think that for me it was the creativity of the title.

 

[GoWithDAFro]

Funny review Yahtzee. I'm glad you didn't turn this into another Wii bash fest. Judging by pretty much every other review out there, you didn't have to work hard finding flaws. From what I've seen, the story and voice acting do look bad. And not being able to wear a Varia suit while your surrounded by lava is stupid, no matter how you look at it. But the gameplay itself does look genuinely fun. Even if it does lack the joy of finding new powerups. Are there still missile and energy upgrades to find, though? Anyway, I've been on the fence on buying this game, and I've decided to just wait till the price goes down to around 25 dollars and buy it then. While it may not warrant 50 bucks, I don't think it should be THAT terrible