Zero Punctuation: Next Gen Buyer's Guide

[WeepingAngels]

Why can't we talk about the information that we already have?

We know the Xbone will use Steam type DRM. We know that Microsoft has not only broken into to the used game market, but seeks to completely control it (for Xbone games). We know that the Wii U has few games that people want. We know that the Wii U controller is not that appealing to most people. We know that Sony is giving us a Share button right on the controller.

Did you read what I said? "Yes, I agree the xbox's features that have been annouced are stupid and deserve to be called out. Go right ahead but dont condemn something for things that it never has even mentioned or that are completly optional" Games are easily fixed and a share button really? Who cares it doesnt magnetically move your finger on that button. Its something thats completly optional aimed at people who wants to do lets play and hey whats so wrong with that? On an off note I suck with editing quotes yippy

Actually you said this:

Just want everyone to wait and at least check out what the new gen has to offer before yelling that it sucks before knowing it. It's annoying.

which leads me to believe that you don't want us saying anything negative at all until everything is known.

Maybe you don't care about a Share button but some people think it's fuckin stupid. Some people who don't want to post their gaming information on social networks. So here you are , telling us what we aren't allowed to criticize because it's optional. It should be fuckin optional in a menu, not on the damn controller.

Yeah I did say that but if you were paying attention to what I said in three fourths of the paragraph you could see thats not the case. You dont want to upload gaming footage? Then don't like i said no ones forcing you to hit that button. People dont complain when a dvd player comes with a built in feature to record a dvd just because they dont want to. Its like i said something completly optional that you can just avoid and the people that want it can use.

Do you hold a DVD player in your hand while you are watching a movie? Is it really so hard for you to stop complaining about people complaining?

 

[kenu12345]

Why can't we talk about the information that we already have?

We know the Xbone will use Steam type DRM. We know that Microsoft has not only broken into to the used game market, but seeks to completely control it (for Xbone games). We know that the Wii U has few games that people want. We know that the Wii U controller is not that appealing to most people. We know that Sony is giving us a Share button right on the controller.

Did you read what I said? "Yes, I agree the xbox's features that have been annouced are stupid and deserve to be called out. Go right ahead but dont condemn something for things that it never has even mentioned or that are completly optional" Games are easily fixed and a share button really? Who cares it doesnt magnetically move your finger on that button. Its something thats completly optional aimed at people who wants to do lets play and hey whats so wrong with that? On an off note I suck with editing quotes yippy

Actually you said this:

Just want everyone to wait and at least check out what the new gen has to offer before yelling that it sucks before knowing it. It's annoying.

which leads me to believe that you don't want us saying anything negative at all until everything is known.

Maybe you don't care about a Share button but some people think it's fuckin stupid. Some people who don't want to post their gaming information on social networks. So here you are , telling us what we aren't allowed to criticize because it's optional. It should be fuckin optional in a menu, not on the damn controller.

Yeah I did say that but if you were paying attention to what I said in three fourths of the paragraph you could see thats not the case. You dont want to upload gaming footage? Then don't like i said no ones forcing you to hit that button. People dont complain when a dvd player comes with a built in feature to record a dvd just because they dont want to. Its like i said something completly optional that you can just avoid and the people that want it can use.

Do you hold a DVD player in your hand while you are watching a movie? Is it really so hard for you to stop complaining about people complaining?

I'm not quite sure I understand where you are getting at here but ill give you the benifit. No, but I do hold a remote for the dvd player and perhaps one for the tv in case of volume control

 

[Itchi_da_killa]

As with every new console I will wait a year or so before I buy one. I waited two years before I bought the PS3 and that was a very good choice. However, If the new consoles turn out to be managed as ruthlessly as they currently seem, then I will not be purchasing one. Not at all.

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Here is a couple of things I hate about current gen that I know will spill into the next. UPDATES, for Christ's sake! There have been times that I have had 30 min before needing to leave for work. Real quick I sit down to kick some ass on SCV or something and then the "System UPDATE needed" message appears. Or, "there is a new update for your game message", or both!
Then there are the splash screens, a freaking minute or two of splash screens before the main screen. Why can't we have one screen that contains all of the logos of companies involved with the damn game as well as the title and the menu? We could call it the Main Game Screen.
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[WeepingAngels]

Why can't we talk about the information that we already have?

We know the Xbone will use Steam type DRM. We know that Microsoft has not only broken into to the used game market, but seeks to completely control it (for Xbone games). We know that the Wii U has few games that people want. We know that the Wii U controller is not that appealing to most people. We know that Sony is giving us a Share button right on the controller.

Did you read what I said? "Yes, I agree the xbox's features that have been annouced are stupid and deserve to be called out. Go right ahead but dont condemn something for things that it never has even mentioned or that are completly optional" Games are easily fixed and a share button really? Who cares it doesnt magnetically move your finger on that button. Its something thats completly optional aimed at people who wants to do lets play and hey whats so wrong with that? On an off note I suck with editing quotes yippy

Actually you said this:

Just want everyone to wait and at least check out what the new gen has to offer before yelling that it sucks before knowing it. It's annoying.

which leads me to believe that you don't want us saying anything negative at all until everything is known.

Maybe you don't care about a Share button but some people think it's fuckin stupid. Some people who don't want to post their gaming information on social networks. So here you are , telling us what we aren't allowed to criticize because it's optional. It should be fuckin optional in a menu, not on the damn controller.

Yeah I did say that but if you were paying attention to what I said in three fourths of the paragraph you could see thats not the case. You dont want to upload gaming footage? Then don't like i said no ones forcing you to hit that button. People dont complain when a dvd player comes with a built in feature to record a dvd just because they dont want to. Its like i said something completly optional that you can just avoid and the people that want it can use.

Do you hold a DVD player in your hand while you are watching a movie? Is it really so hard for you to stop complaining about people complaining?

I'm not quite sure I understand where you are getting at here but ill give you the benifit. No, but I do hold a remote for the dvd player and perhaps one for the tv in case of volume control

Really, you actually watch TV while holding the remotes in your hand?

 

[kenu12345]

Why can't we talk about the information that we already have?

We know the Xbone will use Steam type DRM. We know that Microsoft has not only broken into to the used game market, but seeks to completely control it (for Xbone games). We know that the Wii U has few games that people want. We know that the Wii U controller is not that appealing to most people. We know that Sony is giving us a Share button right on the controller.

Did you read what I said? "Yes, I agree the xbox's features that have been annouced are stupid and deserve to be called out. Go right ahead but dont condemn something for things that it never has even mentioned or that are completly optional" Games are easily fixed and a share button really? Who cares it doesnt magnetically move your finger on that button. Its something thats completly optional aimed at people who wants to do lets play and hey whats so wrong with that? On an off note I suck with editing quotes yippy

Actually you said this:

Just want everyone to wait and at least check out what the new gen has to offer before yelling that it sucks before knowing it. It's annoying.

which leads me to believe that you don't want us saying anything negative at all until everything is known.

Maybe you don't care about a Share button but some people think it's fuckin stupid. Some people who don't want to post their gaming information on social networks. So here you are , telling us what we aren't allowed to criticize because it's optional. It should be fuckin optional in a menu, not on the damn controller.

Yeah I did say that but if you were paying attention to what I said in three fourths of the paragraph you could see thats not the case. You dont want to upload gaming footage? Then don't like i said no ones forcing you to hit that button. People dont complain when a dvd player comes with a built in feature to record a dvd just because they dont want to. Its like i said something completly optional that you can just avoid and the people that want it can use.

Do you hold a DVD player in your hand while you are watching a movie? Is it really so hard for you to stop complaining about people complaining?

I'm not quite sure I understand where you are getting at here but ill give you the benifit. No, but I do hold a remote for the dvd player and perhaps one for the tv in case of volume control

Really, you actually watch TV while holding the remotes in your hand?

Occasionally yes. Its alot simpler then having to bend over and reach for the table each time i need to do something and it allows for quick changing of settings. Either way

 

[The Lugz]

as for miscrosoft.. guys, really

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=TEGw9Cndebo

watch this, seriously.

'everyone' i can find in gaming right now says don't buy it, totalbiscuit even hints heavily that he does not support the practices this gen, even though he realises if he comes out and says it no one will send him stuff anymore.

only total suckups ( linus, you know who you are ) continue to unflappingly support microsoft in this.

the truth is out there,

just
don't
buy
it.

kay?

I have to say i don't get what nintendo's plan this generation but they have the most attractive product right now for s pure 'go play fun things' console
sony have promise, but honestly that's probably because all their skeletons are in the closet still waiting to pop out.
i'm just waiting for the 'it's 799 dollars' reveal, because that would be the end of sony this generation entirely.

 

[Mosesj]

His criticisms of the PS4 seemed rather forced, IMO. He basically talked about optional features as if they were manditory, and gave no credit to it not needing to be online to play games, not blocking used games, and already having some strong exclusives lined up. (Such as Infamous Second Son, a series he really likes) But whatever, bashing things is what pays his bills.

The reason why ps4 is forcedf is because there is very little revealed about it. The share button was the only real feature mentioned. There is a chance it might be online or blocked used games, even if it's unlikely at this point

 

[Saika Renegade]

So far, PS4 looks to be the least offensive, mostly by virtue of knowing almost nothing about it. Do the folks at Sony have a decent giant robot game waiting anywhere in the wings, at least?

I want to give the WiiU a chance but as noted, there's no games for the thing that get my attention. The tank party game is amusing on the surface, but to be fair I like the notion of a party game revolving around monster attacks and swarms of tanks.

Microsoft...eh. Lots of other people on this forum have said a lot more about it more eloquently than I can, but suffice to say that anything they might try to sell me on that thing, I could probably get something better on the PC anyway. Then there's that business with the Kinect that they can't seem to make up their minds on. If I wanted to have a camera to constantly watch me and listen in, I'd go and be a camwhore.

 

[WeepingAngels]

Why can't we talk about the information that we already have?

We know the Xbone will use Steam type DRM. We know that Microsoft has not only broken into to the used game market, but seeks to completely control it (for Xbone games). We know that the Wii U has few games that people want. We know that the Wii U controller is not that appealing to most people. We know that Sony is giving us a Share button right on the controller.

Did you read what I said? "Yes, I agree the xbox's features that have been annouced are stupid and deserve to be called out. Go right ahead but dont condemn something for things that it never has even mentioned or that are completly optional" Games are easily fixed and a share button really? Who cares it doesnt magnetically move your finger on that button. Its something thats completly optional aimed at people who wants to do lets play and hey whats so wrong with that? On an off note I suck with editing quotes yippy

Actually you said this:

Just want everyone to wait and at least check out what the new gen has to offer before yelling that it sucks before knowing it. It's annoying.

which leads me to believe that you don't want us saying anything negative at all until everything is known.

Maybe you don't care about a Share button but some people think it's fuckin stupid. Some people who don't want to post their gaming information on social networks. So here you are , telling us what we aren't allowed to criticize because it's optional. It should be fuckin optional in a menu, not on the damn controller.

Yeah I did say that but if you were paying attention to what I said in three fourths of the paragraph you could see thats not the case. You dont want to upload gaming footage? Then don't like i said no ones forcing you to hit that button. People dont complain when a dvd player comes with a built in feature to record a dvd just because they dont want to. Its like i said something completly optional that you can just avoid and the people that want it can use.

Do you hold a DVD player in your hand while you are watching a movie? Is it really so hard for you to stop complaining about people complaining?

I'm not quite sure I understand where you are getting at here but ill give you the benifit. No, but I do hold a remote for the dvd player and perhaps one for the tv in case of volume control

Really, you actually watch TV while holding the remotes in your hand?

Occasionally yes. Its alot simpler then having to bend over and reach for the table each time i need to do something and it allows for quick changing of settings. Either way

OK, that's cool. I am actually afraid of the PS3 remote, that thing is so sensitive but that is a subject for another day.

 

[Machine Man 1992]

I guess I better plonk some cash down for a PS3 and get all the exclusives I missed, because I sure as hell ain't buying a console that's not backwards compatible.

 

[kenu12345]

Why can't we talk about the information that we already have?

We know the Xbone will use Steam type DRM. We know that Microsoft has not only broken into to the used game market, but seeks to completely control it (for Xbone games). We know that the Wii U has few games that people want. We know that the Wii U controller is not that appealing to most people. We know that Sony is giving us a Share button right on the controller.

Did you read what I said? "Yes, I agree the xbox's features that have been annouced are stupid and deserve to be called out. Go right ahead but dont condemn something for things that it never has even mentioned or that are completly optional" Games are easily fixed and a share button really? Who cares it doesnt magnetically move your finger on that button. Its something thats completly optional aimed at people who wants to do lets play and hey whats so wrong with that? On an off note I suck with editing quotes yippy

Actually you said this:

Just want everyone to wait and at least check out what the new gen has to offer before yelling that it sucks before knowing it. It's annoying.

which leads me to believe that you don't want us saying anything negative at all until everything is known.

Maybe you don't care about a Share button but some people think it's fuckin stupid. Some people who don't want to post their gaming information on social networks. So here you are , telling us what we aren't allowed to criticize because it's optional. It should be fuckin optional in a menu, not on the damn controller.

Yeah I did say that but if you were paying attention to what I said in three fourths of the paragraph you could see thats not the case. You dont want to upload gaming footage? Then don't like i said no ones forcing you to hit that button. People dont complain when a dvd player comes with a built in feature to record a dvd just because they dont want to. Its like i said something completly optional that you can just avoid and the people that want it can use.

Do you hold a DVD player in your hand while you are watching a movie? Is it really so hard for you to stop complaining about people complaining?

I'm not quite sure I understand where you are getting at here but ill give you the benifit. No, but I do hold a remote for the dvd player and perhaps one for the tv in case of volume control

Really, you actually watch TV while holding the remotes in your hand?

Occasionally yes. Its alot simpler then having to bend over and reach for the table each time i need to do something and it allows for quick changing of settings. Either way

OK, that's cool. I am actually afraid of the PS3 remote, that thing is so sensitive but that is a subject for another day.

Ha I dont see why it should be.This is a gaming forum. I seen many preferences in gaming controllers. I seen people talk how the ps3 one is too small or how the xbox one is too big. ha ha. I actually kinda like the sensitivity. I assume you are talking bout like the shoulder buttons right?

 

[WeepingAngels]

Why can't we talk about the information that we already have?

We know the Xbone will use Steam type DRM. We know that Microsoft has not only broken into to the used game market, but seeks to completely control it (for Xbone games). We know that the Wii U has few games that people want. We know that the Wii U controller is not that appealing to most people. We know that Sony is giving us a Share button right on the controller.

Did you read what I said? "Yes, I agree the xbox's features that have been annouced are stupid and deserve to be called out. Go right ahead but dont condemn something for things that it never has even mentioned or that are completly optional" Games are easily fixed and a share button really? Who cares it doesnt magnetically move your finger on that button. Its something thats completly optional aimed at people who wants to do lets play and hey whats so wrong with that? On an off note I suck with editing quotes yippy

Actually you said this:

Just want everyone to wait and at least check out what the new gen has to offer before yelling that it sucks before knowing it. It's annoying.

which leads me to believe that you don't want us saying anything negative at all until everything is known.

Maybe you don't care about a Share button but some people think it's fuckin stupid. Some people who don't want to post their gaming information on social networks. So here you are , telling us what we aren't allowed to criticize because it's optional. It should be fuckin optional in a menu, not on the damn controller.

Yeah I did say that but if you were paying attention to what I said in three fourths of the paragraph you could see thats not the case. You dont want to upload gaming footage? Then don't like i said no ones forcing you to hit that button. People dont complain when a dvd player comes with a built in feature to record a dvd just because they dont want to. Its like i said something completly optional that you can just avoid and the people that want it can use.

Do you hold a DVD player in your hand while you are watching a movie? Is it really so hard for you to stop complaining about people complaining?

I'm not quite sure I understand where you are getting at here but ill give you the benifit. No, but I do hold a remote for the dvd player and perhaps one for the tv in case of volume control

Really, you actually watch TV while holding the remotes in your hand?

Occasionally yes. Its alot simpler then having to bend over and reach for the table each time i need to do something and it allows for quick changing of settings. Either way

OK, that's cool. I am actually afraid of the PS3 remote, that thing is so sensitive but that is a subject for another day.

Ha I dont see why it should be.This is a gaming forum. I seen many preferences in gaming controllers. I seen people talk how the ps3 one is too small or how the xbox one is too big. ha ha. I actually kinda like the sensitivity. I assume you are talking bout like the shoulder buttons right?

No, I mean the PS3 Blu Ray remote. It's Bluetooth so you don't even need to point it at the PS3. You push any button and the PS3 responds. If I were to hold it, I would never get through a movie because I would accidentally be pushing something every few minutes.

You can look at it from across the room and the PS3 will respond...LOL

 

[Ken_J]

In all honesty I'm going to stick with the Wii U unless E3 does something spectacular. Yeah Yahtzee is right about it's current situation but it has only been out for a year and those are EXTREMELY hard on consoles in terms of libraries.

 

[Casual Shinji]

if Sony shows some good games (Maybe a certain guardian, a guardian that's the last of his kind maybe) I'll buy one.

But do you really want to see something that's been lying in the freezer that long?

OT: The next generation is starting to feel more and more like a forced relocation.

 

[kenu12345]

Why can't we talk about the information that we already have?

We know the Xbone will use Steam type DRM. We know that Microsoft has not only broken into to the used game market, but seeks to completely control it (for Xbone games). We know that the Wii U has few games that people want. We know that the Wii U controller is not that appealing to most people. We know that Sony is giving us a Share button right on the controller.

Did you read what I said? "Yes, I agree the xbox's features that have been annouced are stupid and deserve to be called out. Go right ahead but dont condemn something for things that it never has even mentioned or that are completly optional" Games are easily fixed and a share button really? Who cares it doesnt magnetically move your finger on that button. Its something thats completly optional aimed at people who wants to do lets play and hey whats so wrong with that? On an off note I suck with editing quotes yippy

Actually you said this:

Just want everyone to wait and at least check out what the new gen has to offer before yelling that it sucks before knowing it. It's annoying.

which leads me to believe that you don't want us saying anything negative at all until everything is known.

Maybe you don't care about a Share button but some people think it's fuckin stupid. Some people who don't want to post their gaming information on social networks. So here you are , telling us what we aren't allowed to criticize because it's optional. It should be fuckin optional in a menu, not on the damn controller.

Yeah I did say that but if you were paying attention to what I said in three fourths of the paragraph you could see thats not the case. You dont want to upload gaming footage? Then don't like i said no ones forcing you to hit that button. People dont complain when a dvd player comes with a built in feature to record a dvd just because they dont want to. Its like i said something completly optional that you can just avoid and the people that want it can use.

Do you hold a DVD player in your hand while you are watching a movie? Is it really so hard for you to stop complaining about people complaining?

I'm not quite sure I understand where you are getting at here but ill give you the benifit. No, but I do hold a remote for the dvd player and perhaps one for the tv in case of volume control

Really, you actually watch TV while holding the remotes in your hand?

Occasionally yes. Its alot simpler then having to bend over and reach for the table each time i need to do something and it allows for quick changing of settings. Either way

OK, that's cool. I am actually afraid of the PS3 remote, that thing is so sensitive but that is a subject for another day.

Ha I dont see why it should be.This is a gaming forum. I seen many preferences in gaming controllers. I seen people talk how the ps3 one is too small or how the xbox one is too big. ha ha. I actually kinda like the sensitivity. I assume you are talking bout like the shoulder buttons right?

No, I mean the PS3 Blu Ray remote. It's Bluetooth so you don't even need to point it at the PS3. You push any button and the PS3 responds. If I were to hold it, I would never get through a movie because I would accidentally be pushing something every few minutes.

You can look at it from across the room and the PS3 will respond...LOL

Lol I see. Just a breeze rolls in and it pauses lol. Thats why I stick with controlling movies with the standard controller

 

[Darth_Payn]

Excellent video today, Yahtzee! The news I hear about the next generation of consoles fills me with nothing but dread. My first and foremost thing to do with a VIDEO GAME console is to play VIDEO GAMES. Downloading more games is a nice feature, so is DL'ing videos, but I never gave mush of a witch's fart about connecting with other people with them.

If I can speak rationally here, these early announcements are most likely to measure the reaction of we, the customers, and we're all saying "IT SUCKS!!!", so come E3, these guys should have some actual games announced and changed the features we judged to be stupid. And they would do that if this was a perfect world. But in a perfect world, I'd wake up every morning to omelets prepared by my robot butler, after a threesome with VS models in my Italian-style villa in California's wine country, where I have a garage full of top-of-the-line cars, and one of them's a Transformer. But, we can all dream.

 

[rembrandtqeinstein]

Once you add in xblive subscription and the fact that everyone already has an hd tv the gaming pc is suddenly not any more expensive than a console.

With a wireless keyboard + touchpad and wireless controller you can comfortably use it from your couch. With a little bit of wall and wiring work you can even hide your pc in another room. The games keep getting better and cheaper.

Since I don't play FPS I can't think of any current gen console exclusive that was worth the system (culdcept for 360 maybe). I feel like I "won" by buying wii at launch and getting a good 4 years and 20ish games use of use out of it and my wife still uses it for fit.

So yeah JOIN US, become a member of the glorious pc gaming master race.

 

[Sticky]

I took someone's advice and went back and watched the first console rundown Yahtzee ever did. One thing that struck me immediately was that he at least had good things to say about every console, like even he had some glimmer of hope for them. Even the Wii, a venture that he notoriously despises had some promise of being a fun platform once it had the proper games made for it.

It actually made me sad, it made me wish that we were looking at another generation like the 7th gen again. The worst we had to worry about when 7th gen rolled around was that the consoles wouldn't have enough fun games or the consoles being perhaps a bit too expensive or the backwards compatibility being a bit sketchy. Oh play our past selves the proper sized violin that our luxury item may perhaps cost a bit more than we had budgeted for ourselves.

Now look at the shit-cake we've been served, always-on, can't play used games, can't use a controller from past-gen, can't keep the console from watching you, and can't keep your smarmy friends from watching you suck at video games. I can't even imagine how the console rundown video would have been if this was the entourage of "features" that was trotted out last gen. I imagine it would just be a thirty second video of him impaling himself on a sharpened dual-shock.