Zero Punctuation: Next Gen Buyer's Guide

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Mr. Q said:
You do realize that all the anger and such is just his shtick, right? You don't watch Zero Punctuation to hear a guy say in a pleasant, soothing voice calmly relate what he sees as the pros and cons about a console, listing technical specs and quoting various other critics. You watch ZP to hear a guy curse about games (or in this case, consoles) and use various - often vulgar - metaphors and similes. The point is that he doesn't NEED to do that, it's just his thing...it's why his audience enjoys his videos.

With regards to this topic, I'd say he pretty much summed up the general consensus of all the critics that I've heard/seen, he just did so in his own "Yahtzee" style. No one knows much of anything about the PS4 other than it's new controller and how linked in it's going to be with social media. No one can say much about the WiiU since there's not really many games to talk about yet. And pretty much everyone would rather use the XBone as a toilet than a game "multi-media" console, and the fact that the Kinect is mandatory and its unblinking eye will be staring at you constantly is the height of creepiness.

Again, he could have brought all these up in a more "professional" manner, he could have done that with all of his videos in fact, but that's not the way he does things, and people don't watch his videos to listen to him do that. They want metaphors involving shit and bollocks.
 

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Every single word in this video was fucking GOLD to me. Completely parallels my feelings on the upcoming generation of consoles.
 

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Aptspire said:
500? I hope you mean 500 pounds for Microsoft, because it's set to cost 599 pounds (or a little over 900 US$)
You do realize that that is not what it is going to cost. That was just the amount that Amazon put up as a high end estimate so that they could start fielding pre-orders. They even gave the disclaimer/point that if the price dropped they would give it to you at the actual cost. Along with that, they put the obvious fine print that says that they don't even no what the hell the consoles are going to be sold for.

Oh and don't even point out just Microsoft and the Xbox One, because Amazon has set the exact same price out for the PS4.

Stop trying to mislead people. Be nice and give them the facts, instead of one-sided bias.

Jman1236 said:
I already have 500 set aside for a next gen console, I'm just waiting for E3 to see weather I should give my 500 to sony or microsoft. If I had to choose now I've give it to sony since they are no where as big a-holes as microsoft is at the moment.
Don't believe Aptspire's comment he made to you about the price, he doesn't know what he is talking about.
 

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Mr Q - "Anybody know the phone number of a company that can send dozens of theme park mascots to a person's house for a day or two?"

And by theme park mascots I assume you mean Escorts right?



XBox-(we)Won is coming out with outdated system spec: 500GB HD that is supposed to have ALL your BluRay (25 GB each) games installed on it permanently? They are not crystal on that yet, but still. M$ patted itself on the back when they announced the console boots up instantly, which means that the drive is just a SSD. For those that have not encountered problems with SSD tech, well, just bite me. I am not saying they are all going to be ticking time-bombs, but if you did not know that at least 5% are ready to fail within the first four months, you might be a little surprised by your $500 door-stop and the month turn-around-time to get a refurb with an even greater chance of failure. $ony will only say the drive is 'large', which means nothing since a large drive to most of us is 4TB. If it too is an SSD and requires games to being fully installed then in a head to head death match they will be equally equipped. Gods (all of 'em) help them if they use certain types of SSDs where the failure rate reaches 30%+.

Both consoles come with an AMD 8-core CPU, it is a well known fact that Intel performs far better with games and AMD is for work. Both refuse to tell us how fast the CPU are. You might think that 8 cores is much faster than 6 but it usually does not mean very much (even when properly threading across all cores). So a 6 core from intel is almost certainly faster for game processing needs, but not as cheap. Neither mention the Video Card or GPU, so we wait...

M$ is going to use the old, slow, cheap, DDR3 while $ony is using GDDR5 which is graphical memory, not system memory. So they seem to be staying with their current plans, with $ony games looking better, but having less 'stuff' in the game world (without nuking the graphics to compensate) and M$ games having more/larger game worlds, but not quite as pretty.

But the most telling aspect of M$'s is that they are not even planning to phase out the 360's. Well that is confidence personified. Actually it was their way of covering their asses for *nothing* from the 360 working with the (we)Won. Games I understand, after all the new CPU has finally joined the last generation and moved up to 64 bit processing. But that does not explain why in hell the controllers do not. Sure the new ones are going to have extra features, but if you were to use an old one, it should just ignore those new features, right? Not according to M$ who tell you how great the new controller is with all the magnetic sensors and vibrating buttons (no, I am serious), but they conveniently skip the part where this is going to drain your AA cells faster than ever before (my guess is 4 hours).

Then we find out that the M$ says that SP games do not require you to be online persistently. Well, that is unless the designer really wants to make use of the console. Then they are going to need cloud processing, which is persistent online only. So the games *do not require it*, but they are going to suck Dolphin tail without it. But that is all the developer's fault according to M$. I expect $ony will duplicate this, so get ready internet providers. Bandwith caps for everyone! Suddenly that console is costing a hell of a lot more per month...

The (we)Won will allow developers to record data through the kinect, which they can force on through their game even when not actually using it as part of the game. Ostensibly this is so they can 'gauge your enjoyment level' according to M$. The best part is that now hackers can tunnel through the cloud anonymously and spy on you. It is not like someone does not penetrate M$ on a yearly basis (whether they need it or not). So I am thinking of launching a new business selling kinect hoods, with acoustic dampening foam, so you can disable this unless you are actually using it. The product name: Dis.

"Besides all of this, Microsoft is promising a new operating system fusing Xbox and Windows." Ya, it was called Windows 8. They had to flop it off on someone.
 

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You know, when the Nintendo console is the only one worth buying, by pure virtue of it being a fucking video game console instead of a multimedia all purpose device with DRM out the ass that just happens to play games, something has seriously gone wrong. Everyones acting like Nintendo deciding not to show up at E3 is a sign of something bad, but at this rate I'm taking it to mean Nintendo is the only one who remembers how video games are supposed to god damn work in it being about the actual games instead of guest appearances by Usher..

And yes it doesn't have any games yet, but at least I can play my Wii and Gamecube games on it, which the XBONE and PS4 can't fucking claim.
 

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The 360 is being supported for quite some time (at least two years by my read).
 

Roman Monaghan

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I do like how some people are claiming Yahtzee is going all PC gaming master race now, since I remember him explaining in a video how he was distancing himself from PC gaming at first because of all the bullshit, and now since consoles are even MORE bullshit he finds himself leaning back towards it out of desperation more then anything else.
 

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Maybe it's just me, but the only console here that is inherently bad is the Xbone(no, it's bad. I don't care if it has good exclusives, the console on its own is bad), so really the other two just need to get some damn games and Microsoft can go down with its own ship. I'd say Microsoft is the only one here holding games hostage.
 

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CutThroatConcierge said:
The next gen consoles are just like the current gen consoles:
XBOX = Over confident dickhead
PS4 = Intelligent but annoying nerd
WiiU = ADHD child on crack cocaine
I believe that anyone who still have a shred of dignity and self-respect should buy a gaming PC if they wanting an upgrade from the current gen consoles because console gaming was fun but the shirts have suck all the fun out of owning a console and now it's just another soulless consumer good that "Casual Gamers" will blindly buy because they have no idea what being a gamer is all about.
Can I ask you a question? What IS being a gamer all about?
 

FallenMessiah88

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Nice rant, but I'm probably still going to buy a Wii U, a PS4 and an Xbox One at some point.
 

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Mr_Terrific said:
If the WiiU had games, no one would buy it. If the WiiU had a fancy new gimmick that's not like the tablet that everyone already owns, then N would cruise along to another victory on the USS Casual, but...that ship has sailed. Oh, and what happens when the WiiU does get games. Well, good luck downloading a game on your 8 gig hdd. A tablet controller and an 8 gig hdd....very innovative.
So, I suppose you don't know about external hdd's? You know, the ones you can attach to the WiiU, thus giving it TB's of hdd instead of only 8 GB's? Yeah...
Oh Ok. So buy a WiiU AND an external HDD..? Or N could have packaged the thing with more storage than the average smartphone. So we have to go out and spend more money for a similar experience to the current gen. Right....and people wonder why the WiiU is tanking.
 

Korten12

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erttheking said:
CutThroatConcierge said:
The next gen consoles are just like the current gen consoles:
XBOX = Over confident dickhead
PS4 = Intelligent but annoying nerd
WiiU = ADHD child on crack cocaine
I believe that anyone who still have a shred of dignity and self-respect should buy a gaming PC if they wanting an upgrade from the current gen consoles because console gaming was fun but the shirts have suck all the fun out of owning a console and now it's just another soulless consumer good that "Casual Gamers" will blindly buy because they have no idea what being a gamer is all about.
Can I ask you a question? What IS being a gamer all about?
Apparently being a gamer is 98% complaining, 1% real critisicm, and 1% gaming.

:/
 

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Mr_Terrific said:
Oh Ok. So buy a WiiU AND an external HDD..? Or N could have packaged the thing with more storage than the average smartphone. So we have to go out and spend more money for a similar experience to the current gen. Right....and people wonder why the WiiU is tanking.
You do know that buying an External HDD for yourself is cheaper then Nintendo packing in more Internal HDD into their consoles, right? If they put in more HDD, then they'd have to increase the price of the WiiU, which would make it sell even less. At least you can go to the store and get One TB External HDD for about 40-50$, instead of having to buy the WiiU at 350-400$ (Actual Price: 300-350$).

And the reason the WiiU is tanking is because of a lack of good, exclusive games. I bet Sony and Microsoft are also gonna suffer from a lack of games in their first year, and thus "Tank".
 

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Korten12 said:
It just irritates me when people bring in this "No True Scotsman" argument. My twin siblings and their doucebag friends are in the other room right now playing GTA IV. Yeah, they annoy me and I vent about this to my friends, but I'm not going to march in there and declare that none of them are "real" gamers.
 

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All three monopolies have summarily decided that they're going to start forcing profits out of the people instead of trying to earn them. Instead of providing new, innovative technologies that people actually want and will use, they are simply going to strong-arm us into buying everything new (including the god damn TV!!!) if we want to keep playing.

At the same time, watch them start systematically destroying the ability to play previous-gen games, thereby forcing everyone to upgrade or go completely without. For instance, shutting down all the servers for games with half their content being "online" content, such as Chromehounds or Monster Hunter Tri, and leaving no way to access the missing half of the game ever again...I cannot believe people are not outraged that they are essentially having half of the game stolen from them. Eventually they'll stop offering support for the 360, the Wii, or the PS3...so when they break, that's it. And we all know these consoles were engineered to break in a couple of years of even gentle use...

I'm convinced that they don't care about bringing fun to the household anymore. It's all about the money, the sales, the showmanship...no such thing as a game anymore. Just a bunch of interactive movies with fancy "play" buttons.
 

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If The Last Guardian comes out to be PS4 exclusive, he'll have to eat his words fast.

..as would I.
 

Korten12

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xPixelatedx said:
Wow... Just wow. That is single handlely one of the worst images I have ever seen... Like I have never seen something more wrong ever... Wow...
 

sooperman

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You could do a lot worse than Magus of the Vineyard. With that card in play, everyone gets more resources, even if no one wants what you're offering. It sounds like that fits right into the next gen business model. That with the get-out-of-jail card is a pretty responsible mana curve, considering the poker being played.