Zero Punctuation: Pokemon White

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Andrew_Mac said:
Nalarion said:
Totally saw this coming with the unoriginal list of pokemon
I have to agree with this. There's 3 new pokemon based on ice creams... all have the word vanilla in their name... have some damn creativity people!

samaugsch said:
He should've done what I always do: Focus on strengthening my starter Pokemon. :3
My starter was tepig. it sucks now that its in the last evolution even though it was a higher level then most things. i used victini more then it anyway. :D
their all evolutions of the same pokemon what else would would you call a vanilla ice cream line? they have tons of creativity
 

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KalosCast said:
danpascooch said:
He made some good points, but did anyone notice he complained about how his elementally diverse team made the game too easy, and then proceeded to complain about the gym being too hard?

So the game is simultaneously stupidly easy, and frustratingly hard? Come on Yahtzee.
Nobody likes a fanboy.

He complained that the game as a whole was too easy because of his diverse elemental team.

He then complained that the rock paper scissors style combo the game told him to pursue was not actually the one he was supposed to pursue in the case of one particular pokemon in one particular gym.

These are not mutually exclusive.
If I find an inconsistency I must be a fanboy with no basis for my opinion?

He complains about the game being too rock-paper-scizzors, but then when it doesn't follow it for that gym he complains that it WASN'T rock-paper-scizzors, that's a contradiction.

The only basis you have for calling me a "fanboy" is that I disagreed with something Yahtzee said, meaning you just essentially said "Nobody likes a person who disagrees with something Yahtzee says" you do realize how fucking absurd that is right?

It's double ass backwards absurd because I even stated that he made some good points, you mean I have to agree absolutely unwaveringly 100% with everything he said to not have arbitrary demeaning labels thrust upon me!?

Name calling is a habit you should have shed in grade school, grow up.
 

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cursedseishi said:
Except in Pokemon's case, its true for the most part!

Seriously... I quit playing after they released gold and silver...
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I don't even know anymore.

No one is arguing that the formula is different, but if you're arguing that the game hasn't had noticeable changes, then don't spout crap that you yourself know nothing about.
Barring legendaries, it's easy to obtain previous Pokemon, especially with the introduction of Wifi. (even if the GTS is terrible)
Have a few friends, at least one of them with a different version, or join a community forum and you'll have no trouble. Collecting all of them isn't suppose to be easy. It's called an investment. And even if you don't want to catch them all, you can simply just catch everything in the regional Pokedex (akin to the first generation for those that can't put two and two together), and be done there.

Sorry to break it to you, but "Gotta catch 'em all!" was an English slogan used as a marketing tool. It was simply "Get Pokemon!" in the Japanese version. You get a certificate for completing your Pokedex, but collecting is a side-quest.
 

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jak1165 said:
You dont even need to catch them all anymore, you only need to encounter them to get an entry in the Pokedex >_>
WHAT! Jesus Christ. I knew Pokemon had gone down hill since they started adding a bazillion more, but that's just criminal.
 

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Was kinda waiting for him to address the "why don't the bad guys just use 40 pokemon each" thing since they're breaking the law everywhere else, but good overall. It really hasn't changed, though thanks for the heads up on the electric gym.
The bigger question is why they use Pokemon at all when bullets would seem far easier and less hassle.
The fan base has a theory on that. Guns don?t exist, think about it, once people figured out how to tame creatures that could cause earthquakes or shoot lighting why would anyone need guns?
Be... Because it would be far easier and less of a hassle. Seriously? He... Well... I mean, he just said that dude. : /
 

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I can't believe someone is still trying to make money from Pokemon outside Japan. And WTF is with Yahtzee reviewing games that most likely only sell a couple of hundred copies outside Japan?
 

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KalosCast said:
danpascooch said:
He made some good points, but did anyone notice he complained about how his elementally diverse team made the game too easy, and then proceeded to complain about the gym being too hard?

So the game is simultaneously stupidly easy, and frustratingly hard? Come on Yahtzee.
Nobody likes a fanboy.

He complained that the game as a whole was too easy because of his diverse elemental team.

He then complained that the rock paper scissors style combo the game told him to pursue was not actually the one he was supposed to pursue in the case of one particular pokemon in one particular gym.

These are not mutually exclusive.
Oh shit! There isn't a clear cut strategy like simply just having one type to counter the other type? He made a contradiction regardless. It takes more than simply just rock, paper, scissors when there are much other factors to consider. If his team was so balanced, he could have handled it effectively by using them all or giving his Pokemon diverse movepool to handle their own counter should the need arise.

I've gone to Nimbasa and all the people talk about are the attractions in the city. There are people in houses that talk about random things, but none talk about the gym leader. The only people that really do are inside the gym and have the same flying squirrel that the leader has, or the leader herself when she isn't gloating about her model status after Bianca has her little dramatization.

Ground still completes negates electrical moves so you have the upper hand regardless.

BreakdownBoy said:
I can't believe someone is still trying to make money from Pokemon outside Japan. And WTF is with Yahtzee reviewing games that most likely only sell a couple of hundred copies outside Japan?
Trololololo..
 

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KalosCast said:
danpascooch said:
KalosCast said:
danpascooch said:
He made some good points, but did anyone notice he complained about how his elementally diverse team made the game too easy, and then proceeded to complain about the gym being too hard?

So the game is simultaneously stupidly easy, and frustratingly hard? Come on Yahtzee.
Nobody likes a fanboy.

He complained that the game as a whole was too easy because of his diverse elemental team.

He then complained that the rock paper scissors style combo the game told him to pursue was not actually the one he was supposed to pursue in the case of one particular pokemon in one particular gym.

These are not mutually exclusive.
If I find an inconsistency I must be a fanboy with no basis for my opinion?

He complains about the game being too rock-paper-scizzors, but then when it doesn't follow it for that gym he complains that it WASN'T rock-paper-scizzors, that's a contradiction.

The only basis you have for calling me a "fanboy" is that I disagreed with something Yahtzee said, meaning you just essentially said "Nobody likes a person who disagrees with something Yahtzee says" you do realize how fucking absurd that is right?

It's double ass backwards absurd because I even stated that he made some good points, you mean I have to agree absolutely unwaveringly 100% with everything he said to not have arbitrary demeaning labels thrust upon me!?

Name calling is a habit you should have shed in grade school, grow up.
Your fanboy rage is not doing a very good job of convincing me you're not a fanboy.

And a flying/electric type doesn't "break" the rock/paper/scissors thing, it's just not what he should have gone for despite the game explicitly telling him otherwise.
He specifically said there was very little that could touch him, and then complained about how N kept beating him (remember the part where it said "third try")?

Fanboy cuts both ways, and your groundless namecalling and inability to accept any sort of disagreement with Yahtzee without labeling people makes you a "fanboy" of Yahtzee

That word needs to die, it's like people aren't allowed to like something without having their opinion thrown out arbitrarily, I'm not enraged at Yahtzee, I'm enraged at your blatant stereotyping and incessant need for an "all or nothing" agreement with the entire video.

I've been watching Yahtzee long before you even registered your account, I'm a big fan, and I'm allowed to disagree with a SINGLE FUCKING PART of one of his videos now and then, Jesus Christ!
 

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I have never, nor will ever understand the appeal of effing pokemon to people over the age of 12. I'm pretty sure I was around that age when this bs all started and even then I thought it was stupid.

I do like yahtzee's theory of it all being one giant illusion and the actual reality being a horrifying nightmare lol. I'd love a game all about collecting rabies ridden rodents beating the crap out of each other. =P
 

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daxterx2005 said:
mrhateful said:
Pokemon is an awful game, I only played red pokemon in elementary school because it was the only game that was any good on the gameboy color.
Isn't blue the exact same game with different exclusive pokemon?
How can red be the ONLY good one if blue is the exact same thing....?
Also, it wasn't on Gameboy color, it was on gameboy....
No it was on the Gameboy colour as things were coloured.. it just happens to work on the Gameboy as well... Also there was virtually no difference between red and blue other than your starting pokemon.. So I wouldn't count them as two different games, the reason I said Red and not just Pokemon is because then you wouldn't have any Idea about which game I am talking about.
 

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BreakdownBoy said:
I can't believe someone is still trying to make money from Pokemon outside Japan. And WTF is with Yahtzee reviewing games that most likely only sell a couple of hundred copies outside Japan?
I cant tell if your a troll or just plain stupid.
 

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You know what I did every generation? I looked at the pokemon I used last generation and said "Right, I wont touch you guys. Time to get aquainted with the new guys"

A lot of people called Gen V a rehash of Gen I and all I can say is, HA!

What? It's a rehash because there's a rattata/pidgey type of pokemon? Yeah there are some pokemon in Gen V that are clearly there for the familiar element. Guess what? 90% of those suck balls.

Gollurk is a Ghost/Ground type, a typing not seen in the Metagame till Gollurk, he is a GIANT FUCKING ROBOT that specializes in punching everything really hard in the face.

Bisharp is a Steel/Dark Pokemon comprised entirely of weapons, it and it's pre-evolution Pawniard are ment to be a Homage to Sentai/Riders from Japanese Toku.

Mienshao is a Kung-Fu Weasle that is Honourable and elegant compared to the 80's Punk style of Scafty a Dark/Fighting type with a hoodie made of it's own shedded skin.

Darmantian is a powerful fire type that has the unique gimmick of switching to Fire/Psychic and using an entirely different attacking stat (Special Attack over Attack)making it harder to predict whether your opponent is playing for Zen Mode or for Sheer Force.

The Bug types, previously only considered worthy of note due to Scizor and Heracross. Got a LOT of Love, no Caterpie and Weedle knockoffs this Gen! Electric Spider! Knight Beetle! Ninja Slug! Sin against God! Volcano Mothra!

Of course there are the Expies, the crap pokemon That are basically handed out for free at the beginning of the game, the vendor trash.

But behind them are the real stars of the show, the out there super pokemon who not only look awesome but fight awesome.

The only real knock to Gen 5's introductions are the Starter Pokemon, I mean for christ sake Blaziken just got into the Uber Tier, Infernape is still tearing up OU like nobodies buisness, I understand why they made Tepig Boss (He's Zhu Baije from Journey to the West, AKA Piggy a companion of the Monkey King Sun Wukong AKA Monkey who served as the basis for Infernape) They wanna continue that theme, I can't stop them. The problem is Tepigs line is just not worth it compared to it's big brother Fire/Fighting types.

EDIT: Which of course isn't to say the Starter Pokemon don't look Badass, Emboar is a manly fire bearded Pig Wrestler and Samurott looks like a wizdened old samurai Sea Lion, but you know for the meta game they aren't in OU

Fire/Fighting is a damn good typing actually, It's single handedly made Blaziken and Infernape the top two Fire Starters in Pokemon (Shut the fuck up Charizards typing kills it, if it was ACTUALLY Fire/Dragon it would be murder)

Now having said all that, could pokemon be done differently? Hell yes! At the risk of pissing off the entire metagame community!

Seriously You control the trainer in a 3rd person action view, your pokemon is constantly out with you, With the classic Controller the 4 Face Buttons are each of your pokemons attacks, Tapping R Brings up your bag to use items from and pressing L brings up your pokemon list.

Boom Pokemon becomes an entirely different monster to what it was, bringing it's own unique metagame to it (still has the basis of 4 Attacks, Stats, Natures etc. but instead of Turn Based it's focused around Action gameplay) Hell you could even keep the original metagamers happy by introducing a Turn Mode which simply changed the style of game back into the Turn Based they know and love. if Triple/Rotation battles have taught me anything the Metagame community does not shun a new battle mode to figure out things for.

And of course the games have changed each generation. Do you know how hard it is for me to play R/S/E/FR/LG after having played in the 4th and 5th Gen? it's an entirely different monster at the core mechanics!

But for all the people who say Pokemon Never Changes

 

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Onyx Oblivion said:
From the infinite TM use of B/W, to the infinite item bag after R/B/Y's STUPID limit, to the addition of Abilites in Gen 3, The Special split in Gen 2, the Special/Physical MOVE split in Gen 4, and even the removal/addition of new HMs for world exploration, to the key item mapping for easy Bike use.
Thats not really that much in terms of the programming dude. And each of those changes took them almost an entire gen to do!
Even the special split and special/physical move split didn't seem to effect the tactics all that much. It maybe changed how well some pokemon did against others, buts thats not even a change so much as it is balancing the pokemon. or unbalancing them, i don't know.
In the end the pokemon games are still total cliche. An actual change would be say changing the 4 fight moves system to something else, like first person shooting. That example is probably a stupid one but you get the point. Or if they added a rpg element like being able to talk to people instead of just being mute (getting yes/no speech options doesn't count!)
 

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mrhateful said:
daxterx2005 said:
mrhateful said:
Pokemon is an awful game, I only played red pokemon in elementary school because it was the only game that was any good on the gameboy color.
Isn't blue the exact same game with different exclusive pokemon?
How can red be the ONLY good one if blue is the exact same thing....?
Also, it wasn't on Gameboy color, it was on gameboy....
No it was on the Gameboy colour as things were coloured.. it just happens to work on the Gameboy as well... Also there was virtually no difference between red and blue other than your starting pokemon.. So I wouldn't count them as two different games, the reason I said Red and not just Pokemon is because then you wouldn't have any Idea about which game I am talking about.
No, they werent gameboy color games. ALL gameboy game had color to them if played in the gameboy color.
They were gameboy games, if they were infact gameboy color games like you're saying they wouldnt be backwards compatiable with the older models of the games boy.

Also, they're two different games in same generation.

So....yeah, you're wrong on both accounts.
 

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Thanks for another great video, Yahtzee!

I made you something!



Not that I'm trying to dickride or anything.
 

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samaugsch said:
wc alligator said:
Onyx Oblivion said:
Falseprophet said:
Onyx Oblivion said:
Besides, "catching them all" is no longer viable...or even the point, really. It's all about competitive play, with the advent of wi-fi in D/P/P.
Pokemon is now the middle school version of COD and Halo?
Do you know what Pokemon REALLY is?

It's secretly the deepest competitive strategy game ever.

IT HAS TIER LISTS

http://www.smogon.com/dp/articles/intro_comp_pokemon
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah... wait you aren't kidding.


Yu-Gi-Oh! has tier lists too. That doesn't really indicate anything.

Yu-Gi-Oh! is still way better than pokemon actually. I don't know why it gets so much hate while pokemon doesn't.
Also, at least Yu-Gi-Oh! DOESN'T HAVE FUCKING LAND CARDS so I don't really see why MTG gets so much more respect than it either.
Nope. Instead, it has field cards, which are a lot like land cards.
In what way? They have nothing to do with summoning.