Zero Punctuation: System Shock 2

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Ashoten

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You know I do not think the Xbox one is not going to fail that hard. IF Microsoft does not realize what they have done and change the way they make games it will defiantly crash and burn. However what I am seeing with the reveal yesterday is that they are trying to sell the "ONE" as a user friendly average joes PC. It can do everything you use your computer for (not really) and is voice activated with no fuss of swapping out video cards.

What this will mean in practice is that the divide between PC gamer and console gamer will be solidified and console gamers will probably just be gamers. Meaning us pure and superior PC gamers will need to change our nich name to something techy like "Massive Ballox lords" or something like that. But seriously this also means that Microsoft and Sony are going to have to market games to the average joe and expect the sales figures to follow accordingly.

But I know that these companies are too greedy to realize that their consumer base is shifting and that they are driving it themselves.
 

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Falseprophet said:
tardcore said:
I have a feeling that pretty soon the only things PC gamers will have to do is play MMORPGs, MOBAs, and reminisce about the old days. And will be looked upon by the rest of gaming society as akin to the savages from the novel Brave New World.
And with the increased dev costs of AAA titles for the One and PS4, the only things console gamers will have to do is play modern military shooters and Madden, because almost nothing else will be profitable. Meanwhile, I'm pretty happy with the growing PC indie scene.
I think the fallout from a combination of overpriced AAA titles with hit-or-miss value coupled with strict/punitive new rules about used games on consoles should be interesting to watch - from the sidelines with a mid-range PC and Steam/GOG accounts.
 

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Windknight said:
Loved this, and the original, though the original is pretty cumbersome.

Am I the only one distinctly creeped out by the idea that someone seriously wanted bare breasts to ogle on a horrifically mutilated fusion of woman and machine? Seriously, those things are not meant to be sexy.
Also who would have time to ogle when these things are screeching at you about the "Little ones" and running at you down a dark hallway shooting plasma.
 

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Falseprophet said:
tardcore said:
I have a feeling that pretty soon the only things PC gamers will have to do is play MMORPGs, MOBAs, and reminisce about the old days. And will be looked upon by the rest of gaming society as akin to the savages from the novel Brave New World.
And with the increased dev costs of AAA titles for the One and PS4, the only things console gamers will have to do is play modern military shooters and Madden, because almost nothing else will be profitable. Meanwhile, I'm pretty happy with the growing PC indie scene.
And you beat me to the reply to this post.

As for System Shock 2, I picked it up on GOG and damn it is a tough game. Actually had to set it aside for a bit and play something a little more user friendly. It's like the game actively hates you as you play it.
 

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Falseprophet said:
tardcore said:
I have a feeling that pretty soon the only things PC gamers will have to do is play MMORPGs, MOBAs, and reminisce about the old days. And will be looked upon by the rest of gaming society as akin to the savages from the novel Brave New World.
And with the increased dev costs of AAA titles for the One and PS4, the only things console gamers will have to do is play modern military shooters and Madden, because almost nothing else will be profitable. Meanwhile, I'm pretty happy with the growing PC indie scene.
I have to agree. I do admit the Kickstarter indie generation of gaming is looking promising. But so far that's mostly all we have, promises.
 
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A typical Yahtzee review for a good game: "It's a bit shit." I love these reviews, but I am worried that the poor guy is getting so used to picking apart games that it's retroactively ruining his entertainment.
 

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I remember buying this game about 3 or 4 years ago and being thoroughly... disappointed.

This game has not aged well. Maybe it's because I knew that shocking twist, but then again that didn't stop Fight Club from being amazing.

Another one of those classics, alongside Half Life, that have not aged that well.
 

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themilo504 said:
Boy am I glad I didn?t buy this game, since it seems to include everything I hate about old school pc gaming, in particularly I hate it when games become unwinnable forcing you to either save every 10 seconds or look up a guide.
Agreed.

I've always been on the fence about trying this classic game out but this critique did a good job of bringing the reality of the experience to life.
 

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I actually really liked this episode Zero Punctuation. Yahtzee got the game down pretty much 100% how I remembered it: Getting blown up by kamikaze robots and then realizing I put too many points into the tech tree... right before going into the intestines of the underworld.
 

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DVS BSTrD said:
I wonder what they'll write on the Xbone's gravestone.
One satisfied customer?

Thunderous Cacophony said:
A typical Yahtzee review for a good game: "It's a bit shit." I love these reviews, but I am worried that the poor guy is getting so used to picking apart games that it's retroactively ruining his entertainment.
I don't know, a lot of people seem to be losing their nostalgia goggles on this one, so maybe it just wasn't all that good retrospectively. I can't see this as a problem with Yahtzee.
 

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Huh, well that was lukewarm. Don't think I'll be getting this one after all.

After pre-purchasing DXHR I finally pulled myself through DX1, and while it had some nice things going for it, dear lord had the basic gameplay aged poorly and oh my god that story and setting is so incredibly cheesy. I could see the stuff people really liked about it, and would've liked it if some of those elements would be carried over to modern times, but I dunno if that knowledge was worth playing the game.

So after he gave Systemshock 2 an even harder time I'm pretty reluctant about this.
 

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emissary666 said:
It's already been mentioned twice, but GOG did all the hard work and had SS2 months before Steam. I was disappointed when I saw that SS2 was now on Steam as well and am disappointed in Yahtzee for crediting Steam.
Yeah, it's the crediting Steam thing that annoyed me a bit. SS2 was one of those legendary games that everyone seems to reminisce about, but is impossible to experience nowadays. Then GOG made it current again by bringing it back, and yet, when a few months down the line Yahtzee takes advantage of the "current" status again, BAM! Steam logo in your face!