Zero Punctuation: The Second Annual E3 Hype Massacre
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You want to know the worst part? There are some out there that didn't even know the "obvious" about E3.Pi_Fighter said:
Also, on a somewhat scary side-note, Croshaw's ideas on the population are just like mine, but I just believe people are just idiots (They're properly called In"DUH"viduals...)and wouldn't go as far to call them pure crap...
I might agree with Yahtzee if agreeing didn't seem like I'm unoriginal so I'm going to go and disagree with the "people are shit" motto for Yahtzee. I can certainly agree that your a shit, being the wonderful prototype for the human race that you are, but there are certainly people that aren't shit.
Unless your standard for what's not shit is so ridiculously high that someone who isn't shit has to always think up new and original things (that are good), never say unnecessary annoying things, do everything perfectly because their mind can think fast enough to instantly reply in the best, witty way possible for the situation that they are in, a lot of people definitely aren't shit.
Morals? No really concrete arguments for any of those.
It's also funny how people talk about their ideas of agreeing with you about how people are shit, and don't really draw attention to their real opinions of themselves.
Anyone who has that ideal, is a shitface.
Now I'm going to do something to keep the pain from the self-righteousness of this comment out of my mind.
Unless your standard for what's not shit is so ridiculously high that someone who isn't shit has to always think up new and original things (that are good), never say unnecessary annoying things, do everything perfectly because their mind can think fast enough to instantly reply in the best, witty way possible for the situation that they are in, a lot of people definitely aren't shit.
Morals? No really concrete arguments for any of those.
It's also funny how people talk about their ideas of agreeing with you about how people are shit, and don't really draw attention to their real opinions of themselves.
Anyone who has that ideal, is a shitface.
Now I'm going to do something to keep the pain from the self-righteousness of this comment out of my mind.
I find hype annoying because apparently every game, good or not, has to be the next ground breaking revolutionary game in order for it to be good. It despise hype as it kills games before they even get a chance.
The more you hear about a game and the more you get excited for it the more you set yourself up for a let down. Then if the game is just slightly less than you were prepared for it to be, it becomes trash. Then a perfectly enjoyable, if not worship worthy, game if wasted.
The more you hear about a game and the more you get excited for it the more you set yourself up for a let down. Then if the game is just slightly less than you were prepared for it to be, it becomes trash. Then a perfectly enjoyable, if not worship worthy, game if wasted.
Alright, first Yahtzee post! (sorry geek moment dont judge, we've all been there)
100% as always. If the PS motion sensor isnt perfect its just going to be another epic fail like wii. STOP THE REPEAT TITLES OF DEAD GAMES PLEASE!. Yay!!!More "mmorpgas"....shall they make gaming a job or you know, a game.
100% as always. If the PS motion sensor isnt perfect its just going to be another epic fail like wii. STOP THE REPEAT TITLES OF DEAD GAMES PLEASE!. Yay!!!More "mmorpgas"....shall they make gaming a job or you know, a game.
My thoughts exactly.WolfmanNougat said:Very true. Considering Samus hasn't been given a gratuitous inflation, we can assume they'll be focusing on the NG route... with lasers and morph ballsFinalGamer said:
[quote I was just saying that Yahtzee used the formula of "If I say this is bad before I play it then I'm funny." It's sad to see such an oversimplification of the industry from someone who could instead talk about hidden jems and maybe lead to some sales of highly original games. We should only care about wheather or not games are just fun and not if there is a number / subtitle at the end of a title.
Oh and one more thing. It's funny that every "hardcore" gamer (Yahtzee included) bashes casual gaming when casual games are the most original. Seriously, go onto STEAM and look at the casual games section. How many sequels do you see? Also, most of casual games are cheaper the "hardcore" sequels.[/quote]
Isn't Braid a casual game? Yahtzee clearly had praise for it.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/203-Braid
Oh and one more thing. It's funny that every "hardcore" gamer (Yahtzee included) bashes casual gaming when casual games are the most original. Seriously, go onto STEAM and look at the casual games section. How many sequels do you see? Also, most of casual games are cheaper the "hardcore" sequels.[/quote]
Isn't Braid a casual game? Yahtzee clearly had praise for it.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/203-Braid
Sorry, Drunk Canadian, I don't agree that casuals have killed the industry. I believe greed has.
Casual games (or any 'pick up and play' style titles aimed at universal entertainment) have brought a lot of new blood into gaming. Nintendo knew they couldn't carry on competing with the likes of the Sony/Microsoft style 'hardcore' consoles and instead through the Wii and the constantly evolving DS platform have targeted everyone else, stopping only for a moment to pander to the fanboys and nintendo faithful with a handful of 'proper' sequels.
The question to ask is, has this shift towards catering for the non-gamer killed hardcore gaming? The answer is obvious to me - how could it?
As long as there is a demand for hardcore and non-casual games, companies will continue to produce them. After all, many devs and designers are hardcore gamers too - where do you thing many of the inspirations come from?
The problem for me seems to be lazy greed. Why spend effort producing something original and entertaining for your gamer audience when you can churn out a tired sequel that you know fanboys will lap up regardless? It costs way more in effort, time and real cash to produce something new and special, which is why when these games come about we should drop our programmed loyalty to the franchises we love and give the new stuff a go.
Braid was a great little game that harkened back to the ingenuity of the 8-bit era, when programmers were forced to be original because they didn't have the luxury of bigger, better and more. Limitations were on the hardware, not on the allowed imaginings of gaming staff. The recent Rocket Riot on XBL is similarly 8-bit in feel, only polished for the next-gen systems. it isn't particularly original but it's a hell of a lot of fun and well worth our pennies. These aren't the only examples of great games off the beaten track - the franchise machines aren't the only place we can get our gaming fixes (Steam is an excellent place to see this in action).
Yes, casual games seem to be the most original but I think that's only because we as a gaming populace have starte to see games as mainstream or miniscule. Because there are so many 'miniscule' games appearing to cover the creativity gap we brand them as casual, not knowing the depth of gameplay or the buckets of fun that can be had with them.
Casual games aren't killing the industry, it is budgets that are stifling the creative output and blind gamer loyalty that is fuelling the lazy franchise machine.
Casual games (or any 'pick up and play' style titles aimed at universal entertainment) have brought a lot of new blood into gaming. Nintendo knew they couldn't carry on competing with the likes of the Sony/Microsoft style 'hardcore' consoles and instead through the Wii and the constantly evolving DS platform have targeted everyone else, stopping only for a moment to pander to the fanboys and nintendo faithful with a handful of 'proper' sequels.
The question to ask is, has this shift towards catering for the non-gamer killed hardcore gaming? The answer is obvious to me - how could it?
As long as there is a demand for hardcore and non-casual games, companies will continue to produce them. After all, many devs and designers are hardcore gamers too - where do you thing many of the inspirations come from?
The problem for me seems to be lazy greed. Why spend effort producing something original and entertaining for your gamer audience when you can churn out a tired sequel that you know fanboys will lap up regardless? It costs way more in effort, time and real cash to produce something new and special, which is why when these games come about we should drop our programmed loyalty to the franchises we love and give the new stuff a go.
Braid was a great little game that harkened back to the ingenuity of the 8-bit era, when programmers were forced to be original because they didn't have the luxury of bigger, better and more. Limitations were on the hardware, not on the allowed imaginings of gaming staff. The recent Rocket Riot on XBL is similarly 8-bit in feel, only polished for the next-gen systems. it isn't particularly original but it's a hell of a lot of fun and well worth our pennies. These aren't the only examples of great games off the beaten track - the franchise machines aren't the only place we can get our gaming fixes (Steam is an excellent place to see this in action).
Yes, casual games seem to be the most original but I think that's only because we as a gaming populace have starte to see games as mainstream or miniscule. Because there are so many 'miniscule' games appearing to cover the creativity gap we brand them as casual, not knowing the depth of gameplay or the buckets of fun that can be had with them.
Casual games aren't killing the industry, it is budgets that are stifling the creative output and blind gamer loyalty that is fuelling the lazy franchise machine.
The Natal system did seem like a horrible idea for video games then i noticed that it played DVDs without the use of a remote and your voice which is pretty badass and i do hope to buy one but specifically for that reason.
I think the general formula of that E3 review was the sequels "2s" and the long time sequels like Final Fantasy "14"!.
I too, feel like expressing myself with a strangled noise, but that is one of joy - I personally love these continual sequels of games so I can spend more money and time of my life on playing a very similar game all over again.
I too, feel like expressing myself with a strangled noise, but that is one of joy - I personally love these continual sequels of games so I can spend more money and time of my life on playing a very similar game all over again.
I hope Borderlands won't be a disappointment. Anyways great summary of another E3 filled with hope and failure.