Zero Punctuation: The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings

[Gametek]

Are you implying that the Witcher 2 is the videogame equivalent of War and Peace?
Because that is just laughable, especially since it is based nearly directly on some mediocre and rather tasteless fantasy novels. Though I guess you have a point in as much as they are both rather clunky in their presentation, if nothing else.

I suggest you expand your horizons a bit when it comes to story in video game if you think the Witcher reaches anything but the middle of the pack.

An I suggest you to not question other people taste. In any way, genius. I'm bisexual, I like bot woman and man, but I can understand while you don't like the idea of waking up in the same bed of another man. Open your mind bro'. Nothing is black and white. It's what the genre stand for.

Witcher is a good story, that mediocre fantasy novel is one of the best I have ever read, but i understand why you don't like it. And I would prefer that you don't offend other people opinion just because they are against your.

PS: I think that someone that claim to have played 60 game into 2 year can hardly expand the quantity of game he play, if he don't review them...

 

[bombadilillo]

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You are deep in hindsight bias assuming you would easily figure it out. I disagree. My reaction would NOT be to start spraying because this is a gametype that has limited ammo, especailly at the start. So that bunk. I'm supposed to use up my 12 plasma cutter shots on one guy and hope I hit its leg in the process? Thats what you should base you game mechanics around? Hoping they player accidently figures them out is stupid.

The mechanic seems logical to you because youve already played it. There is nothing in previous gaming experiance that would hqave led me to try that, and I most assuradly would not start "spraying" in a fucking survival horror game. That is the stupidest thing yet.

 

[mateushac]

Something on the line of:
I spent the whole first cap to gathere potion, trap, and gearing up for the first boss. I died a lot from the very first little cancered -group- of monster. And what I discover when I meet the big tentacular boss that have to be attack in *complettly unseen point of the tentacle* to defeat it. Died a lot the same. And all my fucking preparation was for nothing! What was even the meaning of making me do that sidequest?

That's you being silly.
I played through the whole game on normal. My first chapter was really awesome, with a bunch of jungle to explore and a bunch of "races hate each other" mood to get into, a lot of character building and it really went by without ever getting me worried about traps, potions or top notch equipment.
As you must have NOT seen, grouped up foes are not supposed to be taken all at once, you're suposed to weaken them with bombs and traps, and then pick them off 1 by 1 (in the first levels). Is it so hard to figure out, that you need the game to tell you that?

And then, about the first boss encounter (the one complaint that most pissed me off), THE FRICKEN LADY KEEPS SHOUTING "TRAP IT WITH THE YRDEN!!!!" what the hell do you think you're supposed to do?

 

[conzan]

So the whole review can be summed up by "it has a shitty UI and is really hard." Thanks, I already knew that, it's why I didn't play the first one. I will never understand why PC gaming elitists think that making a game more accessible is dumbing it down, it's that same "it controls like shit because it's part of the challenge" argument I never understood.

But then again I never got the "it's too easy" argument either. Call me a pansy if you want, but I'd rather play an easy game and have fun than play a hard as fuck game and spend half the day cussing and buying new controllers to replace the broken ones that have been thrown across the room. Which is half the reason I laugh my ass off whenever some brainless fuckwit says something like that gaming was better back in the NES days (golden age of gaming my hairy ass)

i know what you mean but take a non-pc game that did it right demon souls
not a hard game to play (so no bad controls) but still a challenge because it was based on timing and skill and some people like hard games because its a challenge which is more fun then blowing through a game without thinking in my opinion
but no, bad controls don't make a hard game it makes a bad game

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huh...well good to know you can have an intelligent conversation on these forums, yes I typed fast and therefore did not put in much punctuation, but hey I'm commenting on zero punctuation so at least it makes a bad joke, anyway clearly just a grammar Nazi so I will move on

 

[Gametek]

Nice try, but I've made it a police to ignore anyone without a firm grasp on English grammar. Good presentation is half the work when it comes to, well for one thing being coherent, but mainly no one is going to take a damn thing you say seriously if you come across like you just slammed your face against the keyboard.

Probabilmente la ragione e' da cercarsi nel fatto che non tutti parlano l'inglese, capisci. Nonostante sia la lingua di base usata in internet, molti, se non la maggior parte delle persone al mondo, non vengono da uno stato in cui si parla l'inglese. Detto questo, trovo che lamentarsi della grammatica inglese di una persona, sensa avere certezza della sua nazionalita, sia un chiaro esempio di trolling.

PS: better this way? ;D

 

[JochemDude]

I find it one of the better RPG's ever made (as in true RPG and not hybrid-RPG) I like how it's not holding my hand, I like how it's letting me learn by trail and error, I like how everything feels more rewarding because it isn't as easy, I like how have to see all the cutscenes and not skip my lazy unrespecting ass through it, I like how stunning the graphics are, I like how already there are mods out there that make combat more responsive and better, I like how it is in every way proving that difficulty is rewarding. So, no mister Yahtzee I didn't get fired from the dicksucking factory, I own the bloody factory.

 

[Gametek]

Something on the line of:
I spent the whole first cap to gathere potion, trap, and gearing up for the first boss. I died a lot from the very first little cancered -group- of monster. And what I discover when I meet the big tentacular boss that have to be attack in *complettly unseen point of the tentacle* to defeat it. Died a lot the same. And all my fucking preparation was for nothing! What was even the meaning of making me do that sidequest?

That's you being silly.
I played through the whole game on normal. My first chapter was really awesome, with a bunch of jungle to explore and a bunch of "races hate each other" mood to get into, a lot of character building and it really went by without ever getting me worried about traps, potions or top notch equipment.
As you must have NOT seen, grouped up foes are not supposed to be taken all at once, you're suposed to weaken them with bombs and traps, and then pick them off 1 by 1 (in the first levels). Is it so hard to figure out, that you need the game to tell you that?

And then, about the first boss encounter (the one complaint that most pissed me off), THE FRICKEN LADY KEEPS SHOUTING "TRAP IT WITH THE YRDEN!!!!" what the hell do you think you're supposed to do?

On the high ground of being an CPR fanboi since the first stalker, and one that possess a replica of bot the Witcher medallion and the silver sword, I have to say that usually yatzkee make good point on his review, hinting to the bad point of a game, under a lot of swearing and immaturity.
Sometime he is even productive.
But he fail short with TW. Most of his point are notable from the prologue. The fact that into a fantasy game there is elves is a norm, today. So it objection to this is pointless. The fact that he quit TW2 before the choice of helping vernon/Iorveth is a fail: he couldn't experience the 2th cap, where his quest, the place where you are, the monster you fight are decided by the decision made on the first. I'm only saying he could have find something better then this to badmouth at.

 

[Barrelroller]

Nice try, but I've made it a police to ignore anyone without a firm grasp on English grammar. Good presentation is half the work when it comes to, well for one thing being coherent, but mainly no one is going to take a damn thing you say seriously if you come across like you just slammed your face against the keyboard.

Hey, it might just not be his native language. Or would you prefer it if someone disregarded your posts entirely because it's "their policy to disregard presumptuous people?". Correct me if I'm wrong also, but you did mean policy, right?

I do think he's making a little bit of a point to where a lot of people are coming from. It's not even a part of the PC vs console thing which many people are lamenting, but it's a part of what gaming is becoming. It's losing faith in the player to a point where it's humiliating.

My own experiences might be anecdotal evidence to the whole thing, but other than a hairtearing experience at the start it was quite a simple game to play. It was also refreshing to play a game which expected something out of me. I reiterate my point that Yahtzee should have tried playing the game on easy first, before making a judgement.

 

[Judgement101]

I wonder if Obama liked it more...

This just made my day

 

[Piecewise]

This is precisely why I'm a console gamer, console games don't take all day and I don't have to reduce the graphics to 1st grader quality to actually play. Good review Yahtzee you faustian king amongst us mere mortal squishies. Just remember to have fun with Brink He he he.

Nope console games comes pre-factored at lowest grade quality.

Thats a lie and you know it.

 

[devotedsniper]

Some of his points like the combat (yeh it's hard to start with but after the prologue, for me at least it became easy and this was before any patch was out) are fair, but other points make it seem like he didn't really give it a fair chance (maybe because of the first one).

In all honesty though i don't care what he says about this game i enjoyed it so i'm happy (although i wish steam would get there act together, i've already had to download 16gb for the game, 9gb for the first patch, and another 9gb for the second) and while he has some fair points i think that man will never be truly happy with a game.

 

[Piecewise]

Nice try, but I've made it a police to ignore anyone without a firm grasp on English grammar. Good presentation is half the work when it comes to, well for one thing being coherent, but mainly no one is going to take a damn thing you say seriously if you come across like you just slammed your face against the keyboard.

The irony here is delicious.

 

[Gametek]

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You are deep in hindsight bias assuming you would easily figure it out. I disagree. My reaction would NOT be to start spraying because this is a gametype that has limited ammo, especailly at the start. So that bunk. I'm supposed to use up my 12 plasma cutter shots on one guy and hope I hit its leg in the process? Thats what you should base you game mechanics around? Hoping they player accidently figures them out is stupid.

The mechanic seems logical to you because youve already played it. There is nothing in previous gaming experiance that would hqave led me to try that, and I most assuradly would not start "spraying" in a fucking survival horror game. That is the stupidest thing yet.

The mechanism are logical to anyone that do not really on his previous experience on a game... And in any case, it's not so hard to cripple the leg, on DS2 the necro are much more faster then the first, and don't give you the time to think that much. I know you probably did not start with it, but on it the necro was simply to fast to even think to not spraying after that your head shoot didn't kill them. This is not l4d game, you do not have to care about your team mate.

Actually, on DS2 the only thing that really may have need a tutorial popup is stomping necro and gathering resource, that was actually left to the player to discover. I could link to a pair of let's play of newbie that don't explore or pick up ammo because no one teach them to read the popup. Quoting you... "Hoping they player accidentally figures them out is stupid."

Now if you are going to tell me that this people need a new brain because they could not read a popup [the one you receive by standing over the ammo]... You are actually supporting TW's fanboi point of the press J and read. Or read the manual. Classic and old RTFM, where have you been?

PS: How you can not spray with the PG is a mystery to me, in any given case...

 

[Gametek]

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Capisco che il Internet sia freddo e lasci la gente da tutti i settori e le lingue interagire con a vicenda ed a causa delle imperfezioni delle comprensioni culturali che possono condurre ad alcuni singhiozzi grammaticali. Ammetto la I sopra reagito ed onesto chiedo scusa, giusto?

I also had to guess on the language there, sorry if I fail at recognizing linguistic origins.

Fuck, this is a trolling! Are you an Italian, and one that is actually mocking me, or you have simply put your text on google translate?

 

[Woodsey]

This is precisely why I'm a console gamer, console games don't take all day and I don't have to reduce the graphics to 1st grader quality to actually play. Good review Yahtzee you faustian king amongst us mere mortal squishies. Just remember to have fun with Brink He he he.

It looks better than most games on its lower settings, and it doesn't "take all day", its a 40-hour game, as an RPG should be.

OT: Funny, but the cutscenes are skippable.

(Also, if people find it hard, why don't they just put it on easy?)

 

[ProjectTrinity]

I actually defend this attitude to reviewing games (not finishing the whole thing) because it perhaps shows better what sort of game you're playing.


If someone criticized say Friends or Chuck or My Little Pony or some tv series they'd be allowed to after watching only a few episodes. The whole point of watching those few episodes is to give you an idea of whether you will like the series and if it is engaging enough to keep your attention until the end, but suddenly when it comes to video games for some reason you have to play the whole thing to have a valid opinion? Sounds like more than a few people are just butthurt because their pet franchise just got insulted.

I disagree with the "butthurt" mentality.

When a reviewer reviews, he is not only catering to those who have an embarrassingly short attention span, but to those who have the patience that can also be known as momentary stupidity to complete a series/game/book/ect, no matter how bad it started. A person's opinion which is based on a fraction of material may be alright for some, but not everyone. Some may want to know if something gets better or dare I say "fantastic" after the beginning/middle. I'd also make mention that he didn't really defend his "review" for any accuracy, but rather he was admitting that he couldn't finish it and didn't care about how much you listened to him because quite frankly "he didn't have fun".

As a disclaimer: No, I don't play PC games and there's no particular game in mind that I've felt "butthurt" from that prompted this response. I review material myself, and I like to know *everything* that I am about to praise/hate on. It's why I finished Final Fantasy XIII before mocking it down to the ground. I personally feel the opinion is a weaker one if it's technically an opinion formed on the failure to complete something. And finally, the first part of my first paragraph is meant as a joke; no one take offense! D=

 

[Dr.Cereal1]

This is precisely why I'm a console gamer, console games don't take all day and I don't have to reduce the graphics to 1st grader quality to actually play. Good review Yahtzee you faustian king amongst us mere mortal squishies. Just remember to have fun with Brink He he he.

Not true in the least sense since this is only a certain type of game and there are plenty of great pc games out there that couldn't even have those features and they don't "take all day", ex. tf2. And yeah, you would have to have a pretty bad computer to have to make the graphics settings go so low since he said he is running it on a LAPTOP.

 

[RA92]

I will have to deflect a point from you though. I agree with the original Escapist review (by Russ pitts) that it was a completely stupid move on CDProjekt's part to allow players to play the Tutorial "out of order". As far as I can tell, you can't skip any section all together, and people are GOING to always click the 2nd or 3rd one. You know the one that says "Dragon"?

So it's a choice that adds nothing, but confuses people. Unnecessary.

That I agree with. It was an incredibly idiotic decision on the designer's part.

Truth be told, the first chapter I clicked on was the one that said 'Dragon', disregarding chronology n' all... and got raped.

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