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Zaydin

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cefm said:
Since Ride to Hell gets the "Lifetime Achievement" award, does that mean it has knocked off ET and/or Superman 64 from that lofty perch?
Well, Ride to Hell is only the second game in ten years to get a 1 on GameSpot (And in the history of the site), so I'd say it's in the Hall of Shame with them, if not taken the crown and knocked them down to 'Honorable Mention'.

Anyways, I know other people have said this already, but I'm gonna say it again; I was wholly expecting Luigi's Mansion 2 or Wind Waker HD to end up in his top five this year, given Yahtzees reviews of those were positively glowing by his standards.
 

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Zaydin said:
cefm said:
Anyways, I know other people have said this already, but I'm gonna say it again; I was wholly expecting Luigi's Mansion 2 or Wind Waker HD to end up in his top five this year, given Yahtzees reviews of those were positively glowing by his standards.
Luigi's Mansion 2: Can hardly think of a fault with it beyond nitpicks.
FarCry Blood Dragon: Can hardly think of complaints beyond villains dying anti climatically and the gameplay not suiting the theme.

MGSR: Many complaints, can be boring at times, though is fun and wacky.

Huh. And Wind Waker wouldn't appear because "it's Wind Waker", it was practically a retro review.
 

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And here I am, all holiday season playing the Thief trilogy which cost me exactly $7. I'm laughing all the way to the douche bank where douchey people get security deposit boxes filled with particularly rare moments of doucheiness.
 

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Well I guess that finally cements my position as the only person in the world that thought Bioshock Infinite was "meh".

My game of the year by a long margin was AC4 which I have been playing on PS4. Which is equally as curios because as hard as it may seem to believe, I didn't like any of the previous ones. Played 1,2 and 3 for like a few hours each and lost interest. AC4 has me completely hooked. I nearly cried when Thatch died lol... Im on 93% complete and plan to finish it this weekend with any luck. Cant wait for the DLC and meanwhile I will be playing the add on campaign Aveline.

Cant wait for some more PS4 titles this year, particularly those with more PS4 development in them like The Division.
 

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Honestly, I thought Infinite was pretty good, but there are two things I don't care for:
1. The two-weapon-slot limitation. I hate games that do that.
2. The "twist" halfway through that feels like Ken Levine was afraid to alienate conservatives and went for the cop-out "both sides do it" idea instead of actually picking a side.
 

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DataSnake said:
Honestly, I thought Infinite was pretty good, but there are two things I don't care for:
1. The two-weapon-slot limitation. I hate games that do that.
2. The "twist" halfway through that feels like Ken Levine was afraid to alienate conservatives and went for the cop-out "both sides do it" idea instead of actually picking a side.
With number two, I didn't really mind that. I swing as far and hard to the left as it is pretty much possible to do, but I also study history. It's just a thing that happens in a lot of violent revolutions.

Demonio Penguino said:
God damn. Am I the only one that didn't really enjoy Bioshock Infinite?
If you read back over this thread, you'll notice you're in company. Admittedly, it mostly seems to be a company that considers themselves to be objectively correct in their dislike of the game, for some reason, but they do exist.
 

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Azahul said:
If you read back over this thread, you'll notice you're in company. Admittedly, it mostly seems to be a company that considers themselves to be objectively correct in their dislike of the game, for some reason, but they do exist.
I don't know man...BI is pretty much the game that let me lose all my remaining faith in the gaming press and everybody else except my friends when it comes to game recommendations.

EDIT: It's all good, if you liked it though. And I'd say if you didn't notice the wrongs, just ignore the controversy and ride with the fun you got out of it.
 

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nuttshell said:
Azahul said:
If you read back over this thread, you'll notice you're in company. Admittedly, it mostly seems to be a company that considers themselves to be objectively correct in their dislike of the game, for some reason, but they do exist.
I don't know man...BI is pretty much the game that let me lose all my remaining faith in the gaming press and everybody else except my friends when it comes to game recommendations.

EDIT: It's all good, if you liked it though. And I'd say if you didn't notice the wrongs, just ignore the controversy and ride with the fun you got out of it.
Thank you for that edit. A lot of the game's detractors in this thread seem to be under the impression that they can prove the game is impossible to like or enjoy. It's very strange. Personally, while I loved it, I can entirely see why people might not be comfortable with it. This is exacerbated by the fact that a lot of the "wrongs" people keep bringing up as evidence of the game being poor do turn out to be things I actually liked about the game's narrative. Proof positive of people liking different things.
 

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Azahul said:
Thank you for that edit.A lot of the game's detractors in this thread seem to be under the impression that they can prove the game is impossible to like or enjoy. It's very strange. Personally, while I loved it, I can entirely see why people might not be comfortable with it. This is exacerbated by the fact that a lot of the "wrongs" people keep bringing up as evidence of the game being poor do turn out to be things I actually liked about the game's narrative. Proof positive of people liking different things.
I didn't read the entire thread but the few posts I did read, it seems like the discussion is going on like every other BI thread I read 'till now: a few good points and a lot of poor ones, like the post you quoted previously. If "the devs fear of alienating conservatives" is why somebody thinks the story is bad, I don't know, I guess, it's en vogue to not like the game but if you don't understand why people critisize it, you would be better off liking it instead and maybe enjoying another playthrough.
 

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Silentpony said:
First the community and now Yatzhee?! Will someone please tell me which version of Papers Please everyone is playing that such a incredible game?! I must have gotten like a beta release with all the bugs, crashes, poor optimization and sticky mess instead of the epic mind-altering version everyone else got.
I don't get it either. My best guess is because it is an indy game with subject matter that could be considered controversial, Escapist hipsters eat it up, irregardless of whether it's 'fun' to them or not.
You are the counter hipster.

You did not find it fun. Therefore, it cannot be fun. The people who claims it is are fooling themselves for indie-points. You just know better.
That is the type of snorting elitism that the mythical hipster is so disliked for, isn't it?

Of course, I am the one truly fooling myself for expecting any sort of response, I suppose.
 

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With COD Ghosts though, it was like Spec Ops the Line done straight. It wasn't just depressing, but nationalistically depressing. The same trappings of the Line with more linearity as you can't choose how you want to suffer. That is what bugs me with some of you guys saying how COD is America Fuck Yeah when it is most of the time AMERICA FUCK NOOOOO!!!! since rarely we see the main character coming home alive with medals being handed out and a nice bit of R&R before going back to earn more bank. Instead they died unremembered and failed to accomplish their mission.
 

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I've really enjoyed Ghost's multiplayer, but I haven't played the single-player game. Perhaps it's really terrible? Now I'm unsure if I even want to play the single player bit.

But let's be honest, millions of people don't buy the franchise because the single-player mode is any good. If you like COD's multiplayer FPS style then this is as good as it gets.

Biggest disappointment from my side? That it dropped the local 4-player mode. Something I used all the time. It did up the number of bots and still local 2-player. But COD used to be my easy party game for four friends at any time with the bottom two passing the controller.

However, on a positive, side, the little alien side game they have (Extinction) is a lot more palateable to me than the previous zombie side games.
 

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Lightknight said:
I've really enjoyed Ghost's multiplayer, but I haven't played the single-player game. Perhaps it's really terrible? Now I'm unsure if I even want to play the single player bit.

But let's be honest, millions of people don't buy the franchise because the single-player mode is any good. If you like COD's multiplayer FPS style then this is as good as it gets.

Biggest disappointment from my side? That it dropped the local 4-player mode. Something I used all the time. It did up the number of bots and still local 2-player. But COD used to be my easy party game for four friends at any time with the bottom two passing the controller.

However, on a positive, side, the little alien side game they have (Extinction) is a lot more palateable to me than the previous zombie side games.
Single Player campaign is as depressing as the Line. But then again, Modern Warfare COD has been rather bleak and depressing despite Yahtzee's idea of Jingoism. If it was Jingoism, the soldiers will actually come back with flawless victories. COD has anything but flawless victory.
 

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gyrobot said:
Lightknight said:
I've really enjoyed Ghost's multiplayer, but I haven't played the single-player game. Perhaps it's really terrible? Now I'm unsure if I even want to play the single player bit.

But let's be honest, millions of people don't buy the franchise because the single-player mode is any good. If you like COD's multiplayer FPS style then this is as good as it gets.

Biggest disappointment from my side? That it dropped the local 4-player mode. Something I used all the time. It did up the number of bots and still local 2-player. But COD used to be my easy party game for four friends at any time with the bottom two passing the controller.

However, on a positive, side, the little alien side game they have (Extinction) is a lot more palateable to me than the previous zombie side games.
Single Player campaign is as depressing as the Line. But then again, Modern Warfare COD has been rather bleak and depressing despite Yahtzee's idea of Jingoism. If it was Jingoism, the soldiers will actually come back with flawless victories. COD has anything but flawless victory.
That doesn't necessarily sound like a bad thing. Though your comment seems neutral to where I suspect that's your point. That it's a matter of taste in whether or not games need to be flawless wins wrapped up for the player to relish or if they can have failures and shortcomings that force perspective.
 

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Lightknight said:
gyrobot said:
Lightknight said:
I've really enjoyed Ghost's multiplayer, but I haven't played the single-player game. Perhaps it's really terrible? Now I'm unsure if I even want to play the single player bit.

But let's be honest, millions of people don't buy the franchise because the single-player mode is any good. If you like COD's multiplayer FPS style then this is as good as it gets.

Biggest disappointment from my side? That it dropped the local 4-player mode. Something I used all the time. It did up the number of bots and still local 2-player. But COD used to be my easy party game for four friends at any time with the bottom two passing the controller.

However, on a positive, side, the little alien side game they have (Extinction) is a lot more palateable to me than the previous zombie side games.
Single Player campaign is as depressing as the Line. But then again, Modern Warfare COD has been rather bleak and depressing despite Yahtzee's idea of Jingoism. If it was Jingoism, the soldiers will actually come back with flawless victories. COD has anything but flawless victory.
That doesn't necessarily sound like a bad thing. Though your comment seems neutral to where I suspect that's your point. That it's a matter of taste in whether or not games need to be flawless wins wrapped up for the player to relish or if they can have failures and shortcomings that force perspective.
All i am saying is Yahtzee thinks COD Ghosts is America Fuck yeah when so war IW depicts it as anything but fuck yeah. Givdn how horriying the losses are on your side.
 

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Damnit I thought the days of disliking something popular just to be mysterious were over. Nope, Bioshock doesn't rate anywhere near my top 5. Well, come to think of it it might because it had decent gameplay and nothing came out this year. The story though rates piss-poor in my book. Oh well, I'm sure no one wants to lend me a soap box to extol my displeasure.

I guess just looking at my steam list State of Decay might be my top game for 2013.