icaritos said:You have no idea what you are talking about. The PS3 partition only allows for half of its RAM to be used for gaming so it effectively has 256 MB available at any one time. And while this "it uses it more efficiently" might have held water 7 years ago, now it is simply a joke since modern RAM is already entirely DDR3 at much higher speeds.A1 said:icaritos said:Bull crap. The PC version of the game has been one of the least buggy ones of all elder scroll games, with less bugs per time played than read dead redemption. Even then the bugs are not game breaking and tend to be either graphical or NPC behavioural glitches. The only version suffering from game halting bugs are the 360 and PS3, and the 360 less so because it has 500mb of potential RAM rather than 256.A1 said:All of the versions of the game have been experiencing bugs and glitches. And the PS3 actually has the same total amount of RAM as the Xbox 360, it's just divided into two halves whereas in the 360 it's bunched together and shared. The PS3's RAM is also faster and more efficient than that of the Xbox 360.icaritos said:Can't fix what is fundamentally a hardware issue. Unless they send someone in your house to shove more RAM into your PS3 it is quite likely that there won't be any massive improvement.GonzoGamer said:Every year there's that one game that I DON'T regret buying. In 2011, that game was portal 2. Good choice.
If you're on the PC, wait for the modders to fix it.Xman490 said:Skyrim FREEZES? I thought Bethesda was over "New Vegas" levels of glitchiness! I thought that Skyrim's worst bugs were along the lines of "hovering ground ladies" or spinning horsemen (as seen in a Youtube video).
Has anyone else had serious glitches with Skyrim? I'm starting to doubt whether I should get it if it's going to crash on me.
If you have a 360, play it for 10 mins at a time so it doesn't melt.
If you have a ps3, avoid it like the plague.
They say patch 1.4 will "address" it which means that they can't "fix" it.
I'm guessing they didn't send Yhatzee the ps3 copy...
Oh yea, he's a reviewer.
The problem isn't the hardware or RAM. It's the game itself.
Don't talk out your ass, I have the PC version and my 2 other room-mates have the 360 version.
As I said, all the versions have bugs and glitches. Although the console versions more so. And the PS3 has 512 mb of RAM split in two 256 RAM modules. And the PS3's RAM is much more fast and efficient than that of the Xbox 360. The RAM isn't the problem.
Bethesda has a reputation for releasing their games in buggy states. And the PS3 has been known to be harder to develop for in general than the 360 and this has been largely due to developers not really having known how to use it's hardware and features properly. Hence the PS3 getting a number of inferior ports early in it's life cycle. And to some extent you still see some of that going on today. So when taking all this into account it's not all that surprising that the PS3 version of a multi-platform game has once again gotten the short end of the stick.
The consoles are outdated and it is simply disingenuous to place all the blame on Bethesta for poor performance while running on a 7 year old hunk of metal. Just so you get a basic idea, the PSP vita as well as my mobile phone (an android) have more RAM than the PS3.
Don't believe me follow this link http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-ps3-skyrim-lag
It just explores the bugs on the PS3 version and goes on to say what I have pointed out, the game runs badly not due to poor, but outdated hardware.
I was never comparing the PS3 to PC. And I know that console technology tends to be more conservative than PC technology and that as a result both the PS3 and the 360 are now using outdated tech components. I never said anything that contradicts this (although it does seem to be at least somewhat of a moot point in this particular case since Bethesda used the consoles as lead platforms for Skyrim). What I did was compare the PS3 to the 360 and not the PC. And while the 360 may appear to have more RAM due to all the RAM being shared it still has to distribute the RAM accordingly among the same the things as the PS3. All the PS3 does is formalize the process by splitting the RAM into two halves.
And the PS3's RAM is indeed faster and more efficient than that of the 360 (once again I'm not talking about the PC).
But you don't have to take my word for it. Here's an article for you:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2010/08/26/xbox-360-vs-playstation-3-the-hardware-throwdown
So the idea of RAM issues might (let me emphasize "might") explain why the PC version supposedly fares better than the console versions (although PC version has had it's share of issues as well) but it wouldn't seem to do all that much to explain why the PS3 is getting the shorter end of the stick than the 360. It seems more likely that it's simply because Bethesda simply found the 360 to be easier to work with as has been the case numerous times before regarding the 360 and PS3 with numerous other games and developers. And among those times by the way is with Bethesda's own Fallout 3 (I imagine that the consoles were at least a little less outdated then than they are now).
And all the article you point out does is present a few different theories. So it's not the most reliable of sources to say the least (and Joshua Sawyer isn't a particularly credible source due to potential conflict of interest issues). And it's seems that it doesn't actually say anything about outdated hardware. At best it only implies something like that.
And Bethesda is generally not a particularly reliable company either. As I said Bethesda does indeed have a reputation for releasing buggy games (and perhaps seemingly using consumers as de facto beta testers). As I understand it this has been going one since well before the PS3 was even released (stretching back to Morrowind if not further back than that). Even the PC version of Skyrim has had it's share of issues (and by the way a few instances of anecdotal evidence don't really amount to all that much if anything). And on top of that Bethesda is also guilty of suspicious and questionable behavior like refusing to release the PS3 version of Skyrim to reviewers before the release date even to those who specifically requested it. Not to mention those allegations that Bethesda forced unfavorable reviews of New Vegas to be taken down.
So Bethesda doesn't have the best of reputations with regard to numerous things. And among those things is PS3 game development.