Zero Punctuation: World of Warcraft: Cataclysm

[freakonaleash]

Holy crap he liked it

 

[Exterminas]

I am suprised by this shallow opinion.
Wow is bad, because it ruined a few lives?
Doesn't make that gaming bad, because it ruined a few lives?

No, it doesn't. If you let your life get ruined by something as easy as Wow, then there weere clearly problems there before.

Like... oh, lets say: A child, that you didn't want in the first place and that shackles you to your home.

A "few" is an understatement when it comes to WoW. I've watched several people have their lives ruined in some way by this game. If it isn't neglecting their job or their school work, it's neglecting their family and friends and becoming obsessed by increasing their numbers in a silly little game.

Some games are WORTH spending several hours of your life on. Minecraft is not only a game but a very nice creative outlet for example. WoW is just an endless stream of killing the same enemies in the same ways until you get a level to kill them in a slightly different same way. Then you rinse and repeat. Raise your numbers, and at the end of the day find that you you've wasted a large amount of time on something incredibly pointless.

Sorry but, you are reducing a MMORPG to it's gameplay, which ignores the two M.
If Minecraft is a crative outlet, then Wow is a socializing platform.
So what you might have seen as "neglecting friends and family" might actually have been "finding new friends" for the playing person.
I met a lot of people via wow who are now close real life friends. It's a great hobby to do with great people. Playing it alone would result in said parade of numbers.

I don't raid to get a bigger sowrd. I raid to achieve something with friends. It's like building an IKEA-cupboard together. Often frustrating but uniting.

 

[Zanaxal]

They added achievement collecting and pet and recipie collection that is totally pointless to do, like collecting different colored rocks which only serve to give you a certain rating number (a stupidity of time & monthly fee waste rating perhaps?). = evil

Also they dumb down the game soooo much that trained monkeys can play it.

But blind fanmasses choose to overlook the bitter reality of the devolution of wow.

 

[WOPR]

I really dont see the point to WoW...

I mean, I know a lot of people like it, but I guess it just isnt my style...cataclysm makes it look almost playable...but meh...

Same, I have hated all MMORPG's I have played

there's no skill involved (unless you considering "accounting" to see which item is better to be a skill) it's just grinding, I remember when RPG's required skill and thinking, not just being better depending on how many hours of your real life you wasted on it

on that note, yes I have played WoW, I had an Undead Warlock, got him to level 12, and was bored out of my mind.

I also played Runescape for a year, and the only reason I'll tolerate that one is because it's free... but it's just as boring if not more so.

and I hate how my "friends" that play these games will yell at me every time I make a comment about "grinding" or "subscribing"
...I guess they're very insecure about their obsession hobby.

EDIT: *sniff* *sniff* you smell that? I think it's another mailbag showdown from all these WoW fans getting mad

 

[The Human Torch]

Sorry, it's not wrong. They are providing a service. You are paying for the service, the same way as you would pay for a product. It just happens that in this case, you need to buy a product (the WoW account - the software, essentially, is worthless) to access the service. Much like how you need to pay for a computer in order to use the internet, or a TV in order to watch your cable.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with charging a fee for the use of a service.

No there isn't, but there IS something wrong with withholding access to the full functionality of a consumer's OWN PROPERTY until they pay you more money. You can use a computer offline, and a television as a screen for a computer/home media player, but Wow's software is completely and utterly useless until you fork out to Blizzard AGAIN, on top of the frankly criminal amount you paid for the discs, and continue to do so monthly.

This has to do with the nature of the game. It's a game that relies on a community to function. A community that needs to be on a server due to the massive amounts of traffic (PvP, PvE, auction house, in-game item mailing, etc.), due to size of WoW's playing community, they require a ginormous amount of servers to function properly. Not too mention a staff to keep it running.
Just selling 13 million copies of Warcraft is not enough to sustain such a large financial drain.

You always have the right to not buy the game because you don't want to pay the monthly fee, that is fine, but don't say that it's "wrong" to charge. It's not. This is not Modern Warfare 2 or Little Big Planet, this is much bigger.
And before you start commenting about free to play MMO's, they are not completely free and they have a way smaller player-base.

 

[Madara XIII]

OMFG this was epic!

NUMBEEEEEEEEERZ!

But like most people said, this was indeed a unexpected, but it was fun I should get my lazy ass to buy Cataclysm soon.

However I believe Yahtzee is wrong on one part......I Destroyed my sanity trying to 100% Metroid Prime on hard....SO MANY FREAKING PIRATES!!! AAAAAAGH DX

 

[WOPR]

And before you start commenting about free to play MMO's, they are not completely free and they have a way smaller player-base.

Runescape could count

and so what if there's a smaller player base?

...on that note I should mention I have interest in Global Agenda; it's an MMO that DOSEN'T cost monthly fees (anymore- apparently it did at one point) and pretty much to bring this down to a level any WoW player could understand

It's World of StarCraft
(pretty much)

...I don't have it yet, just played it a bit on my friends computer
seems like the best deal if I'm going to throw away money to grind a game

and I need something to do so that I CAN say "I'm busy!" the next time some guitar hero fanboy wants me to play through the fire and flames... on a real non-plastic instrument...

 

[Yvl9921]

200+ posts. I'm sure someone's said what I was gonna say about raiding being just plain fun by now.

 

[garfoldsomeoneelse]

Sums up why I stopped playing years ago.

 

[Buccura]

Surprised that Yahtzee actually reviewed Cataclysm. Also surprised he didn't make a furry joke when talking about the Worgen. Guess that would be too easy.

Also NUMBERS!

 

[MajoraPersona]

Definitely surprised Yahtzee caved.

However, I noticed that most of his complaints were more general than things about the game in particular; the entire MMORPG genre is almost completely controlled by the number game.

PS: Deathwing's watching for when you're alt-tabbed. He got me when I was exitting the game.

PPS: On the subject of NUMBERS: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/2053469

 

[McNinja]

OK, I'm not sure if this has been posted yet, because I'm not wasting my time going through seven pages, but this is very related to the "numbers" rant Yahtzee went on in the video.

 

[WOPR]

OMFG this was epic!

NUMBEEEEEEEEERZ!

But like most people said, this was indeed a unexpected, but it was fun I should get my lazy ass to buy Cataclysm soon.

However I believe Yahtzee is wrong on one part......I Destroyed my sanity trying to 100% Metroid Prime on hard....SO MANY FREAKING PIRATES!!! AAAAAAGH DX

He said "Super Metroid" not "Metroid Prime"

you know the one on the Super Nintendo

that has a demo in Brawl (if you actually still HAVE that game)

 

[The Human Torch]

And before you start commenting about free to play MMO's, they are not completely free and they have a way smaller player-base.

Runescape could count

and so what if there's a smaller player base?

...on that note I should mention I have interest in Global Agenda; it's an MMO that DOSEN'T cost monthly fees (anymore- apparently it did at one point) and pretty much to bring this down to a level any WoW player could understand

It's World of StarCraft
(pretty much)

...I don't have it yet, just played it a bit on my friends computer
seems like the best deal if I'm going to throw away money to grind a game

and I need something to do so that I CAN say "I'm busy!" the next time some guitar hero fanboy wants me to play through the fire and flames... on a real non-plastic instrument...

Smaller player base = less servers = less people to maintain it.
Plus that Blizzard updates Warcraft like no one else. Other MMO companies could never hope to bring out as much content on a regular basis. So yeah, you are not only paying for a game on a disc, you are also paying for future patches with new dungeons, battlegrounds, items and other updates.

 

[WOPR]

Smaller player base = less servers = less people to maintain it.
Plus that Blizzard updates Warcraft like no one else. Other MMO companies could never hope to bring out as much content on a regular basis. So yeah, you are not only paying for a game on a disc, you are also paying for future patches with new dungeons, battlegrounds, items and other updates.

Well other MMO companies don't make roughly $6,500,000 each day
and that's not even including the $60 game purchase/$40 Game Expansion purchase(s)

 

[Azaraxzealot]

i agree with the numbers rant. its all "classic", "tactical", and "MMO" RPGs are about. Nothing more than numbers

boring, boring numbers...

 

[SickBritKid]

See, I've avoided WoW and DnD for basically the same reason: I have so little a social life as it is that I don't want to sweep what little I have away, which is what would undoubtedly happen if I picked up WoW or DnD...

P. S. I always love how the ad for the Escapist Vids app ends with the Escapist critter moonwalking while wearing Yahtzee's fedora and boots. Goes to show just how much Zero Punctuation has taken over the Escapist.

Hell, maybe the site should become "Zero Punctuation featuring the Escapist."

 

[Icehearted]

i agree with the numbers rant. its all "classic", "tactical", and "MMO" RPGs are about. Nothing more than numbers

boring, boring numbers...

Exactly this, and exactly why I quit. Getting into a perpetual game of mathematical One-upmanship wasn't fun.

So glad I quit while I was ahead.