Zombie Apocalypse scenario: What will you do?
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\jdun said:
in that case I would sneak out and hope the zombies don,t get to me (considering firearms are forbidden in Europe I can only defend myself with melee weapons) I would probably head to the country side (there are allot of farms in my area)
Thank you very much for calling me a liar, twice in a row, really appreciate that.jdun said:
I've carried a 60 pound pack over a thousand miles during the course of several trips, much of it rough mountainous terrain. I wasn't moving very quickly at all on those occasions, but I can certainly carry that same pack down a flat road for a few miles while looking for a suitable car to jack. And yes, I will be able to find both vehicles and fuel as needed. Most cars will be abandoned one way or another, and most regions will not have the time or the means to drain the fuel reserves stored under the hundreds of thousands of gas stations across the nation, much less out of the fuel tanks of the aforementioned abandoned vehicles. Local bands of survivors can, but they will be quite occupied for a good while after outbreak, and I intend to go to ground long before they would have a chance to lock more than very small regions down and consolidate resources.
Road blocks are also no issue given the right vehicle, I mentioned taking country roads for good reason, there is always a way around, even if it means driving off road for a time.
I am not a survivalist, never have been, probably never will be. I don't at present have the skills needed to pull off an extended stay using only the minimalist equipment you mention. The overextended list of crap I mentioned is a reflection of this, a purist can find a way to get around a lack of equipment, someone like me prefers to over-prepare so that they don't have to, or at the very least has enough time to learn to do so on the fly.
I doubt you carry 60 pounds for "over a thousands mile." I really doubt that. Even military people don't carried 70-100lbs for "over a thousands mile" in their career. No one are stupid enough to do that unless you are in the military. Military people carrier that much weight because they have too not because they want enjoy it.
I bet you never been to the country. There something called tree when you enter off road. Tree vs. Car 10 out 10 of times trees win.
You need power to pump gas out of gas station. Electric power. There won't be any electric power in an Apocalypse scenario.
Modern car prevent people from using hose to steal gas. Really old cars you can do it but not cars that were produce in the past 20 years. In order to steal gas from cars you need to go under the car and drill a hole in the gas tank. That require power tools. That's not going to happen in post Apocalyspe.
Like I've previously posted you don't want to make contacts with other groups of humans. The different between a zombie and normal Apocalypse is that in a zombie apocalypse there is an extra threat, ie Zombie. The main threat in any Apocalypse scenario are other humans even in a zombie Apocalypse scenario.
Humans can be hostile or they could be a burden to you if you let them in. My brother worked in the waste management sector. He was the very first people that enter New Orleans when Katrina hit the city. His job was to make sure the area was safe for clean up. His group carry guns for protections. There were many many times that he encountered hostile citizens or citizens that were asking for food. Many times his group had to draw their guns out for protection. They didn't shoot anyone but letting them know they were armed.
You're right you're not a survivalist. A real survivalist will know what a post Apocalypse world will look like. A survivalist is a realistic person base on logic. Your version of post Apocalypse is squarely base on what you watched on TV and played games. Real world post apocalypse is totally different from that.
I bet you never been to the country. There something called tree when you enter off road. Tree vs. Car 10 out 10 of times trees win.
You need power to pump gas out of gas station. Electric power. There won't be any electric power in an Apocalypse scenario.
Modern car prevent people from using hose to steal gas. Really old cars you can do it but not cars that were produce in the past 20 years. In order to steal gas from cars you need to go under the car and drill a hole in the gas tank. That require power tools. That's not going to happen in post Apocalyspe.
Like I've previously posted you don't want to make contacts with other groups of humans. The different between a zombie and normal Apocalypse is that in a zombie apocalypse there is an extra threat, ie Zombie. The main threat in any Apocalypse scenario are other humans even in a zombie Apocalypse scenario.
Humans can be hostile or they could be a burden to you if you let them in. My brother worked in the waste management sector. He was the very first people that enter New Orleans when Katrina hit the city. His job was to make sure the area was safe for clean up. His group carry guns for protections. There were many many times that he encountered hostile citizens or citizens that were asking for food. Many times his group had to draw their guns out for protection. They didn't shoot anyone but letting them know they were armed.
You're right you're not a survivalist. A real survivalist will know what a post Apocalypse world will look like. A survivalist is a realistic person base on logic. Your version of post Apocalypse is squarely base on what you watched on TV and played games. Real world post apocalypse is totally different from that.
In almost all Apocalypse scenarios including the zombie version the real threat isn't zombies or wild animals. The real threat is other humans.henritje said:
It is best to get out of the city or high population area because people will be killing each other for whatever supplies are left.
Whatever weapon you may find will be useless. Killing a man is not easy, even an undead one. Melee is out of the question, and fire-arms would attract too much attention, not to mention that bullets would eventually run out, and no one will be making more any time soon. Your only shot is to get out of the big cities and find a farm. Fortify it and hopefully have other people to help you maintain it. Scavenging will only help you for so long. The real trick is to survive the initial infection, and leave densely populated areas.
Also, don't have a pregnant adulteress wife and an idiot son walking around with you. Nothing but trouble I tells you.
Also, don't have a pregnant adulteress wife and an idiot son walking around with you. Nothing but trouble I tells you.
Wait inside while the Millitary sends attack choppers to clear the streets,deploys snipers in tall buildings,firebombs large basses of them outside the cities.
Seriously the military can just use a single chopper to clear an entire town.
Just get a single gunner it will probably even be fun for the guy They can even throw dynamite from them if they are feeling fancy.
Seriously the military can just use a single chopper to clear an entire town.
Just get a single gunner it will probably even be fun for the guy They can even throw dynamite from them if they are feeling fancy.
What?Baff said:
OT: Probably die. I'd try and hold out as long as I could but all I have to defend myself with is a baseball bat and I probably wouldn't last too long with just that.
Lucky for me I recently watched The Walking Dead for the first time this week past so I'm in the mood for this thread. If I hadn't then I'd probably complain.
Realistically I'd choose a shovel from my shed, grab all the supplies in my house and head to the school over the road with my family for a short while. My friends and I joked about this and I reckon they'd think to go to the school after I explained how beneficial it is. Once we'd assembled a small group we'd grab all the medical and food supplies we could carry, grab some gym and workshop equipment to use as weapons and move out before anyone else arrives. From there it'd just be a play it by ear affair. I'd like some sort of firearm as a backup, they're really stupid weapons to use primarily, but British laws put them in really short supply.
We'd probably become a band of raiders if we lasted long enough; dispose of all meaningless morality in a chaotic world and live with the group's survival in mind.
Either that or die and eat people.
Realistically I'd choose a shovel from my shed, grab all the supplies in my house and head to the school over the road with my family for a short while. My friends and I joked about this and I reckon they'd think to go to the school after I explained how beneficial it is. Once we'd assembled a small group we'd grab all the medical and food supplies we could carry, grab some gym and workshop equipment to use as weapons and move out before anyone else arrives. From there it'd just be a play it by ear affair. I'd like some sort of firearm as a backup, they're really stupid weapons to use primarily, but British laws put them in really short supply.
We'd probably become a band of raiders if we lasted long enough; dispose of all meaningless morality in a chaotic world and live with the group's survival in mind.
Either that or die and eat people.
The government is actually pretty decent at dealing with small scale problems, which is the likely scenario for a zombie outbreak. As for large scale problems, the government probably won't do shit, but anyone who thinks they can actually survive on their own (or survive at all) in a real apocalypse is either a Green Beret or is lost in fantasy land.jdun said:
Weapons are a secondary thing, you don't need to kill them. Melee is the best because it's quite and gets them out the way for a short while. Also fuck Lori, she's a total ***** and seriously can't get past old world ideals. The kid can either have a gun or get eaten; the reason to continue to be alive is to be alive, not come home to Saturday night TV like you used to; you aren't first fucking lady, Rick's word is not law, stop trying to make it so.Optiluiz said:
Sorry, I had to get that last part off my chest.
dyre said:
You be surprise on how many people are prepared for the Apocalypse. It's a big booming business. In fact there is a reality show called the Prepper that deal with preparing for the end of the world as we know it. I don't watch TV but it's a big hit in the survivalist community. Since the show started survivalist shops around the country couldn't keep up with the demands.
http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/doomsday-preppers/
There are also religions that is center around the Apocalypse. The Mormon is one of best known ones.
Edit: Out of curiosity I Googled Mormon official survival list and what do you know they have one in pdf.
http://www.abysmal.com/LDS/Preparedness/Preparedness.pdf
Yeah, I know about the reality show. Honestly, I think a lot of those guys are just fantasizing about shooting something that isn't a paper cutout. There's definitely a certainly charm to the idea of being the last man standing (possibly along with some hot chick) in a collapsing world, so I can't blame them for that.jdun said:
But it's doubtful that these people will really survive after their supplies run out. And even if they did, then what? Live alone, or in a small society reduced to medieval technology, without running water or electricity or dentistry and dying to what were once easily curable diseases? Most people can't even cope without the internet.
If our ancestor were able to survive without running water, electricity, etc. I'm sure some of us will too. Most won't survive because they don't know how to be self sufficient. People like the Prepper family will have a much better chance of surviving because they spend their entire life self sufficient. They know how to hunt, fish, grow their own food, protect themselves, live outside of dense population areas, etc. People like the Prepper family will be sorry disappointed if the Apocalypse doesn't come in their life time.dyre said:
As a rule of thumb you don't need to be Super Human or in the Super Special Military Force to survive the Apocalypse. What is needed is the ability to be self sufficient and common sense. However both of these two traits lack in modern society.
Our ancestors grew up in a culture which relied on a much greater degree of self-sufficiency in both individuals and societies. But modern society doesn't require that. When it comes to progress, whether it be technological, economic, or anything else, self-sufficiency is inferior to specialization and interdependence. Societies function better when those who are good at science become researchers, and those who are good at numbers become accountants, rather than having each person worry about everything at once. Self-sufficiency is pretty much useless unless your profession calls for it.jdun said:
That said, of course the average survivalist has a better chance than the average regular person, but in a truly catastrophic event, "better chance" probably means 0.4% chance of survival compared to 0.15% chance of survival. What's a hardcore survivalist going to do if he catches pneumonia?
So I'd really much rather blow my head off on my own terms than make a near-hopeless attempt at the lonely and brutal life of a post-apocalyptic survivalist.
Rural Americans are self sufficient and self reliant. They probably going to survive the Apocalypse because they used to it. Because they are out of the grid. Rural Americans live on bare minimum and they have the skill set that are needed to survive the Apocalypse. I'm sure they have more than .15% chance of surviving the Apocalypse.
With that said most people won't survive the Apocalypse because they lacked basic common sense and not self sufficient. For example the OP and the people that posted on this thread. The OP lack some of the very basic survival supplies that are needed to you know survive. Instead he list more weapons than a typical military person carry for battle. Electric items, Satellite phones, GPS, CB radio, etc. it's like they going to work in a post Apocalypse world even if he has a generators. Good luck with that fantasy.
Your idea of blowing your head off is sound because you understand that it best to leave the remaining resources to the true revivalists. You know you won't survive without the internet, TV, XBOX. etc so why brother right? Good for you.
With that said most people won't survive the Apocalypse because they lacked basic common sense and not self sufficient. For example the OP and the people that posted on this thread. The OP lack some of the very basic survival supplies that are needed to you know survive. Instead he list more weapons than a typical military person carry for battle. Electric items, Satellite phones, GPS, CB radio, etc. it's like they going to work in a post Apocalypse world even if he has a generators. Good luck with that fantasy.
Your idea of blowing your head off is sound because you understand that it best to leave the remaining resources to the true revivalists. You know you won't survive without the internet, TV, XBOX. etc so why brother right? Good for you.
-I say 60 as an absolute maximum amount I carry, water and food included, you keep claiming that I mean 70-100... I wouldn't go any real distance with a load even approaching 100 pounds, that would be stupid beyond belief.jdun said:
-60-120 mile week long hiking trips, 11 of them so far spread out over several years, feel free to disbelieve me all you like, I won't bother with trying to clarify or prove myself any further on this point. You might actually be correct that it hasn't been over a thousand yet, I haven't exactly been keeping an exact record, but it is close enough to not really matter.
-car vs tree might mean the tree wins, but truck with decent suspension vs a flat field, dirt path, pasture (with either no fence or one that can be dismantled), etc. tends to go the other way. This nation might have been pretty much nothing but trees at one point, but those days are long gone. While there are still regions of forest too dense to pass through, we've been blazing trails for so long that there is always a way around.
-getting gas out of a station's supply is easy, its called a little brute force to open up the cap, and a bucket on a rope. Tedious, but effective, and without a need for electric power.
-It is true that modern cars are difficult to siphon from, although that doesn't apply to the larger trucks. You do not however need a drill of any description. A pickaxe or similar tool can easily be used to punch a hole, the only difficult issue being tilting the car onto its side in order to be able to swing (patience, caution, a jack or preferably two, and a few blocks can work wonders) You can even use most kinds of tire iron for the puncturing job in a pinch, just expect your hands to be sore as hell afterwards from all the hammering.
-yes I bloody well do want to avoid other humans, that was a large part of the point of going somewhere so remote. Yes, I expect to have to hide from others, and that any confrontation with them can mean death. As I mentioned before however, my intentions include moving as soon as possible after the initial crush, well before any bands of survivors can become mobilized enough to do more than clear out a few small sections of territory for themselves.
hahahah.Heronblade said:
You really are funny.
I'm sure you go hiking 60-100 mile long trips with 60lbs of weight. Why don't you join the Marine Corp because it going to be easy for you. You only have to hike 48 miles with full battle gear to pass boot camp.
You really never been into rural America have you? Your lack of understanding of rural America roads show it in your post. When you enter rural America, roads are very narrow. There might be ditches that run parallel to the road to act as drainage. Next to the ditches there might be trees and lots of them. The further away you go away from the city, the roads turn from paved to gravel or dirt. Oh did I mention there also lots of trees and ditches in rural America?
Keep believing your truck can push trees down and cross deep ditches You need it.
"a little brute force to open up the cap, and a bucket on a rope." Do you know how stupid that sound? Keep repeating it and you understand why. hahahahah
I assume you never fix a car in your life. If you did you won't make the silly comment about pickax. If you're super strong enough you can flip the car over and than use the pickax. That would work. How many people have a pickax in their home? hahhahah
Keep believeing you're a great leader that will lead humanity out of the zombie Apocalypse. When they kill you in your sleep and take everything from you. You'll think otherwise.
Zombie isn't the main threat in a zombie Apocalypse or any Apocalypse. People are the main threats. Good luck in your fantasy world because you'll need it.