Zombie Apocolypse - With a Twist.

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Azure Sky

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Chimichanga said:
Considering zombies: if they're fooled by the trash/junk disguise, then I should have very little to worry about from them. Considering that a zombie has even less of their senses than a standard human being (i.e., poorer eyesight, hearing, mobility, smell, motor skills, problem solving and thinking skills and mobility) and even less of an exploratory drive to investigate any said pile of trash or rubble, they should theoretically just keep walking by. Not a particularly nice way to live, but I'm rather confident I could pull it off if I'm cautious enough.
To clarify:
Exceptional - Smell, Hearing. They move toward things that make noise and can smell open wounds, both are common cliches.
Poor - Basically all other senses really.
 

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OKAY
My armour would be
Skinny black jeans,
Normal long sleeved black shirt,
Black jacket(so if one grabs me on the head i can get a quick second chance to react)
Weapons:
My child hood BB gun(first resort, does half the sound of a normal gun)
If it runs out of ammo,:pistol, first one i find,
Then a shotgun, also the first one i find,

Objective:
Wait inside my home for a few days, barricading my house with all the wood i never use, i always keap a large ammount of water in my house for some odd reason(I FREAKING LOVE WATER)after a week or two (after things die down a bit)i venture out to the inner-city(Texas CAPITAL!!!) where i go inside the goverment building(forgot the name) because i herad there was a sub way for poloticions(i mean, in a zombie apocolyps you get the leaders out first)

I ride my way to the political safe point and enjoy cigars and champaine

Or if that dosen't work, go to south padre island(near the coast of texas, or any other cities on the coast) and fortify there, with a boat(if things get to harry then i could venture out in the water for a while then go back in)
i then wait for the army to come and take out some zombies, find a loner and kill him, take his suit and weapon and head back to the check point where i
1)kill them all if their corrupt
2)silently take food a bit at a time
3)after 2 find the nearist ride to D.C and hide in the white office
 

Spartan448

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Here's my Zombie Survival Kit:

I've actually traveled the world a bit, and in my travels, I often see REAL, not replica swords for sale in antique areas, like the Bazzar in Istanbul. Some in very good condition. So my first weapon of choice would be a good, stout, 5-10 pound Gladius. Second would be light leather armor. Whilst a punch from these Zombies might hurt, at least they won't be able to bite me. A motorcycle helmet will cover the saliva and blood part. What are we at now, 40, 50 pounds? Probably some form of transport like a Solar Car or Electric Car that can be easily juiced up, and food can be found in pretty much any environment, so that takes care of that. Might want to bring a flint'n tinder, small tent, and a mess kit. In other words, anything a Boy Scout might have. A rope might come in handy, too, as well as a folding shovel.That should keep me well protected against slow Zombies.
 

Chimichanga

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Azure Sky said:
To clarify:
Exceptional - Smell, Hearing. They move toward things that make noise and can smell open wounds, both are common cliches.
Poor - Basically all other senses really.

Why would any of a zombie's senses be "exceptional"? Considering these are at least half-way realistic and not going with Max Brooks' "germ superpowers/germs-somehow-making-entirely-new-organs-and-reconfiguring-the-hosts-very-brain-matter-and-composition" bullshit, they have the same abilities and handicaps as living people, but are dead and still rotting, even if at a slower pace.

It means that whatever sensory organs they have, has decayed and even at their best is only as good as when they were alive, which means they only would have been dead for a few hours before the decomposition process begins in animals. Technically, it means that by the minute, they are getting weaker in every sense, both physically and perceptively until decomposing completely.

Methinks you are taking that from Max Brooks, who doesn't understand shit about biology. Eyes too - they get scratched up and rendered near-useless as they get neglected over time due to not blinking, zero cell growth, and the host (the zombie) having absolutely no sense of self-preservation.

I remember that passage, and simply shifting emphasis from certain parts of the brain to another would not improve their senses that drastically. A human brain would need to be entirely scrapped and rebuilt in order to utilize smell and hearing effectively as, say, a dog's. It's the same reason why a scientist couldn't just tweak a dog's brain a little and end up with it being able to perfectly understand the English language (and if given vocal chords) speak it fluently.

/biology & pharmaceutical science major.
 

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I only have strategies, provisions are easily provided in the primary strategy..

Primary Strategy; collect food, liquid, clothes and tools (hammer, sledge, hatchet, can opener etc) from house, and climb ladder into the attic area, pull that up, then work on making a hole between that and the building next door (semi-detached house), make a hole in the roof and salvage materials to make a bridge onto the next roof, rinse and repeat, on some houses dismantle the entire roof and set up water stills. Oh and go down in houses occasionally to resupply.

Stealth Strategy; Trap an animal, put it in a cage covered in mirrors and lower it down to see how zombies react to mirrors, if they don't recognise it... operation mirror man is go.

Kill Strategy; I would want to make some sort of remote device that plays out audio really loud of me shouting, 'this is a trap for zombies, i'm going to blow this place up'on repeat, put that in a petrol station covered in petrol (sneak in, leave it uncapped etc) then use an IED to blow it up when the time's right.
 

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Chimichanga said:
*Snip. Applying real world logic to zombies is silly*
Theoretical zombies are theoretical.

Getting narkish because you got called out is silly. =3
 

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While pasta may be crunchy it can be eaten raw (hence the emergency food supply, also I live in a rural area with plenty of wells and streams) To your second point yes guns are loud, but you probably took notice to the significant emphasis on ammunition for a gun rated to 1000 meters. Attacking only when needed and at a distance would give me a significant running start if the dead were to gravitate too close. The other two were essentially "I'm so screwed they're practically on top of me" guns.
 

Chimichanga

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Azure Sky said:
*Snip. Applying real world logic to zombies is silly*
Theoretical zombies are theoretical.

Getting narkish because you got called out is silly. =3
You're getting defensive because I actually knew what I was talking about. My argument was solid and the facts were valid. You just can't reply with anything intelligent to refute my statements. Remember: you said "realistic scenario", considering that the threat is part of said scenario, I'm just applying it to them too. Be more specific if you want them to have super powers.

Don't pout too much.

PS: and adding emoticons to the end of every last sentence gives me the impression that you are a 16 year-old girl or a 14 year-old boy
 

deadmanreaper13

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okay, i live near San Francisco.

first, go to friends house where every family member knows how to use a gun(family of cops,swat,and hunters;they have alot of guns) and stay there a few days.

next, be an idiot and head into San Francisco.(I smell a Darwin Award!)

along the way, grab food, water, more guns, and mabye more people. next,steal a boat and sail to Alcatraz Island. kill anything on island that could be a threat (human and zombie) and secure base of operations.

survive by making raids into the city or heading out to sea and raiding along the coast. if we lose survivers, try to find more in nearby towns.

and that is how I will try to survive.
(note total disregard for human life.I will kill almost anyone who gets in the way of my survival, including family)
 

Azure Sky

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Chimichanga said:
Azure Sky said:
*Snip. Applying real world logic to zombies is silly*
Theoretical zombies are theoretical.

Getting narkish because you got called out is silly. =3
You're getting defensive because I actually knew what I was talking about. My argument was solid and the facts were valid. You just can't reply with anything intelligent to refute my statements. Remember: you said "realistic scenario", considering that the threat is part of said scenario, I'm just applying it to them too. Be more specific if you want them to have super powers.

Don't pout too much.

PS: and adding emoticons to the end of every last sentence gives me the impression that you are a 16 year-old girl or a 14 year-old boy
Well, seeing as my response was a mere jest at how silly the situation was.
Look at all the blowing out of proportion you managed.

But I'm bored, lets play. =3

You know all about fictional flesh-eating corpses that walk? There is nothing solid about an argument about zombies if you are constantly beating at it 'real world facts and knowledge'. o_O

As for a Realistic Scenario? Now you are taking liberties, I suggest you go and reread the OP, as that R word was not mentioned, even once.

Your ego got burned, get over it?

Pity pouting isn't an emoticon I know, care to show me what it is?

PS: I take that as an invitation for more emoticons, enjoy. ^^
Also, if you get to pick at my emotes, I shall pick at your quoting, or lack thereof. =3
 

Azure Sky

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Sober Thal said:
What's the twist?

Seriously, I read the OP twice and I can't figure it out. Or is the twist just the seemingly realistic limitations?
Primarily it was to try and curb the 'trigger happy' scenarios, I just expanded it a little.
 

Spartan448

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Ya know what? Scrap what I said earlier.

To quote Griff from the popular web series Red vs Blue...

"I'm going to Alaska! Everyone knows zombies have no body heat! They'll freeze like corpse-sicles!"
 

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I live in NYC so I am in for some serious trouble in the event of pretty much any zombie outbreak.

This is what i have thought (so far):

I'd have one backpack nearly filled with empty glass bottle ( if I needed to guess I would say it can hold approx. 15-20 bottles, which because of the nearby bars and supermarkets, I can replenish bottles when my bag runs low) and rags so I could make some molotovs, probably at the nearest gas stations or by siphoning(sic) gas from cars.

I'd have a duffelbag which holds a boltcutter and a crowbar so I could break into a bunch of places easily and relatively quietly for food, clothing, weapons and cigarettes( not that I smoke. It will most likely become the currency after the apocalypse). It would also hold 3 rolls of duct tape (and I guess a tube for that previously mentioned siphoning) and some(maybe 100 rounds) of pistol ammo ( for whichever type of guns I am weilding at the time. Also, I am really lacking a guess on how much space that would take up). I'd have to steal the guns and ammo (somehow), maybe from a closed/abandoned gun store. (even though the store would probably be emptied by it's owners for their own use). Note: if the guns aren't gettable, I would try to aquire the same number of fireworks as the amount of ammo (preferably m-80s and other non-flying fireworks) from a friend.

Now that I am weighed down with all that on my back, let's get to what I am wearing. A T-shirt and a pair of cargo pants (lots of pockets for: a lighter, a clip or 2 for my pistols or 5 or 6 m-80s, and a can of Axe (or any other flammable aerosol spray that can fit in a pocket ) for an impromptu flamethrower). A hoodie. And 2 pistols in hand (or the fireworks in the hoodies pockets, which can be thrown and used as a distraction as well as weapons. If I am using the fireworks, i gotta keep the crowbar easily accessible) I'd aso wear a (stolen) balacalava and some nice shades, to keep the zombie blood off my face and eyes especially. Maybe some leather gloves for keeping zombie blood off of near inevitable cuts on my hands.

I think I would be able to carry all of that. Maybe not run with it on but definitely carry it.
Edit: my plan is only to survive, not to escape.
I will probably move into formerly inhabited apartment complexes for the high ground and the isolation of higher floors.
 

Chimichanga

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So, after recently taking a look into the most recent zombie thread, I decided to do something a little different to the standard 'lolinfiniteammo' angle a lot of people seem to have. =3 (All props to Gecko Clown for giving me the idea)

Basic Rules:
You must be able to carry everything on your person. If something sounds sketchy, explain it out.
"Really large bags of X" are not allowed, particularly ammo. =3
Anything mentioned must be current-age and readily obtainable, 'most' things requiring a permit within reason are allowed. (guns, knives etc)
You can be infected. Known to spread by saliva and blood.
If something comes in many (ammo, batteries, food, etc), state numbers and remember you need to carry it all, no stashes.
Things can, and will wear/break with constant/improper use. Item in question pending.
You are allowed encouraged to be a MacGuyver and play the do-it-yourself game with anything feasible.

Scenario is: Zombies, lots of them.
Really slow, really strong, really stupid, unlikely to starve variety.
Highly sensitive to noise, known to group up.
While you did not explicitly say "The R word", you're implying realism. As in "No infinite ammo", "reasonable carry weight", "limited equipment space", "reasonable, believable, and obtainable weapons", etc. I'd say realism is heavily implied.

The only thing against that is the "sensitive to noise" bit that I admit I glazed over and forgot about when I made my original and in my last post. My bad.

*Now on to the zombies:

While zombies are entirely fictional, their physical properties are not. The only things I'm willing to suspend my disbelief over is that the said zombies' brains still have their cells connected to make commands, and that they are somehow able to produce adrenosine triphosphate - which is a catalyst for muscle contraction - without breathing or having moving or uncoagulated blood; essentially being the fact that they are able to move. That bit of suspension of disbelief aside, everything else I leave up to the laws of nature and biology. If you wish to make exceptions (now rereading the OP, I now acknowledge) be more specific about how they function. Vagueness shows a lack of imagination as I see it.

Just because it is all theoretical does not mean that standard biology and life science can not be applied to it and used to help flesh out the details. It is key to making a good, clear, and understandable scenario. The reason why I posted in this thread originally.

Despite what your smart-ass remarks may imply, I may not be an up-and-coming Dr. Frankenstein, but I'm willing to bet that I know a lot more about the fundamentals of decomposition, cells, biology, and the human body then you do.

*Now on to you, because you seem to insist on making this personal for yourself:

Perhaps you are reading my posts in the wrong tone. My original post and my response to you were intended to be read in a calm and neutral voice: in the manner of stating facts since I interpreted your reply to be criticizing my train of thought regarding theoretical zombie physiology because you did not understand my reasoning.

It's only when you started to make fun of my reply that my tone changed. I am really not that bothered by any of your posts. because you asked, my ego is doing quite well; I do not tie it to forum posts on the internet, as you seem to be guilty of yourself, considering your vested interest. I am rather confident in what I say, and I speak rationally while fully explaining myself.

You on the other hand, do not. You seem to prefer to make fun of my preference to defend my more serious statements (conversely, which I put serious thought into) with serious rebuttal. I interpret your personal attacks on me as yourself interpreting my statements as jabs at your own ego, and thus you seek to compensate and cover up for it with your fake jovial and care-free tone. A weak facade. I am not fooled; to me, you only come off as cornered and immature.

Quoting: Not understood: I have essentially been quoting you as you have been quoting me the whole time. If you meant quotation with the quotation marks, "", I truly do not wish to make my posts run any longer. It is why I try to only quote you once per post, as my own are long enough.

You openly challenged me; while I am really not concerned about or invested in continuing this, I am admittedly interested in how you will respond.

Your move, but make it fast: I'm only going to be up for another hour before I get some shut-eye.

Sorry about the long post, though - you gave me so much to cover. The more narrow the argument, the less text I'll use to explain.
 

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That Guy Who Phails said:
bushwhacker2k said:
HG131 said:
I own three pistols (one of which is an old police revolver) in their own carrying case with ammo, a shotgun with it's own leather case that has a strap to be slung over you to carry it, two 22 Caliber rifles and a case of ammo for them. Get to a gun store, pick up spare ammo, pick up a bunch of wood, get home, board up the 8 windows, smash the sliding glass door and board it up, board up the windows. Then wait with a whole lot of guns and ammo. Oh, and play Disturbed, KISS and Wolfmother really fucking loud. Snipe the idiots that get close.
That's cool, but

Azure Sky said:
Numbers: Easily outnumbering surviving humans 1000s to 1
What happens when you run out of food and ammo?
you be ded
Case in point :p :D

Chimichanga said:
While zombies are entirely fictional, their physical properties are not. The only things I'm willing to suspend my disbelief over is that the said zombies' brains still have their cells connected to make commands, and that they are somehow able to produce adrenosine triphosphate - which is a catalyst for muscle contraction - without breathing or having moving or uncoagulated blood; essentially being the fact that they are able to move.
I think that's where we bring imagination into the picture, like an alien organism in/on their brain that can send signals to their muscles without the requirement of blood or oxygen :D

Not arguing with you, obviously, just trying to throw something in to fit the point.
 

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Chimichanga said:
TLDR Probably has zero relevance to the thread anyway
Stealth quoting is bad, it won't stop be from finding it.

Enough games, zombies are not real, this thread is a theoretical fantasy, time to move on.

On topic or leave. I am over arguing with people that refuse to see the facts in front of their own face.
 

deadmanreaper13

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Chimichanga, have you ever seen zombieland? or any other movie,game,or show where zombies are not really dead? they can simply be living humans infected by a virus that causes them to try to eat other living beings. in cases such as this, they will not decompose and their sences will not be hampered by death.

and please recall, this is about fictional creatures. for all we know, if zombies ever do appear, they could have wings. its simply impossible to know percisly what will happen.
 

Chimichanga

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Azure Sky said:
Enough games, zombies are not real, this thread is a theoretical fantasy, time to move on.

On topic or leave. I am over arguing with people that refuse to see the facts in front of their own face.
Good; specific. Less to say.

Still not fully understanding your issue with how I quote. I find that they fulfill the use I have for them: provide context and a reference to things you have said that I am currently referring to.

Yes, I get that it's theoretical fantasy; what I'm trying to say is that the theoretical details (senses, etc.) about zombies are so important because very minor details like that change the entire imagined situation.

Heck, what I originally said was really not science or anything complex; all I meant to say is that it's totally reasonable to presume that zombies would have inferior senses due to constant decay. My reasons for continuing to reply to you now has little to do with proving myself factual, but because instead of a serious response you decided to give what I interpreted as the internet equivalent of sticking your thumbs in your ears and giving me a loud, wet raspberry. I would have acquit after my first reply post had you simply and maturely restated your OP's statement about the rules your zombies go by.

To the best of my knowledge, I have been on-topic the entire time: I have given answers to almost every relevant statement you've posted concerning me. What "facts" other than "it's theoretical fantasy" have you, yourself, otherwise made?