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Something like a Clag is good for eating
PVA is good for sniffing.
Glue companies have the bases covered.
To be fair, starch and other polysaccharides can be mildly adhesive. Dissolve some of those eco-friendly starch packaging chunks in water, they'll make a paste good enough to stick bits of paper together.
 

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Yeah, having tried (tried, mind) cooking with cornflower, opening the packet covers me in white powder like I'm in a terrible comedy about drug users, and adding water making a horrible sticky mess.

Also, I suspect people that say Johnny/Journey Cakes are wonderful are using a different meaning of that word.
 

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A judge strips qualified immunity from the feds who attack journalists in portland.
 

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Joe "Shoot them in the Leg" Biden has a bad take about Portland Protests? Surely you jest?!?!?
I’d had the slightest hope they’d at least package “woke police state” with massive reforms elsewhere so we’d get some shitty Huey Long out of this, but going with Harris and... this! And no support for marijuana legalization, no major package for corona relief, no medical system reforms. This is so far below my obscenely cynical expectations that I am utterly furious.
 

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Joe "Shoot them in the Leg" Biden has a bad take about Portland Protests? Surely you jest?!?!?
Help me out here..

How exactly is "Peaceful protesters should be protected and arsonists and anarchists should be prosecuted." a bad take? Specifically when he then continues by laying the blame for the "division and chaos" at Trump's feet and calling for the removal of the "Department of Homeland Security [which has turned] into a private militia" from these cities?

I mean, there's a severe lack of an oxford comma in that first sentence, but otherwise that seems like a rather rational, if a bit milquetoast, take.
 
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Help me out here..

How exactly is "Peaceful protesters should be protected and arsonists and anarchists should be prosecuted." a bad take? Specifically when he then continues by laying the blame for the "division and chaos" at Trump's feet and calling for the removal of the "Department of Homeland Security [which has turned] into a private militia" from these cities?
"And local law enforcement can do that"

The local law enforcement who has been pepper spraying anyone and everyone? The local law enforcement that keeps firing rubber bullets at protesters heads? The local law enforcement that has decided that the best way to deal with people protesting police brutality is to beat them with clubs until they stop protesting police brutality?

Those local law enforcement?

But hey, I suppose Joe Biden might want the cops to shoot the protesters in the leg instead of the head so I guess that's progress?
 

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Help me out here..

How exactly is "Peaceful protesters should be protected and arsonists and anarchists should be prosecuted." a bad take? Specifically when he then continues by laying the blame for the "division and chaos" at Trump's feet and calling for the removal of the "Department of Homeland Security [which has turned] into a private militia" from these cities?

I mean, there's a severe lack of an oxford comma in that first sentence, but otherwise that seems like a rather rational, if a bit milquetoast, take.
ANARCHISTS ARE PEOPLE TOO AND HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THESE PROTESTS SINCE THE VERY START. THE MEDICS, FOOD NOT BOMBS, THE GUYS THAT WERE FEEDING EVERYONE, ALL ANARCHISTS. HALF THE PEOPLE RECORDING ARE. THE PRIMARY SOURCE FOR MUCH OF THE MINNEAPOLIS GEORGE FLOYD PROTEST WAS UNICORN RIOT, AN ANARCHIST OUTLET. TO JAIL ALL THE ANARCHISTS IS TO JAIL THE PROTESTERS.
Edit- Fuck, this is like saying “the problem right now with these civil rights protests is those arsonists and socialists,” which, y’know, is explicitly what the US government did and was their justification for killing the Panthers and many other black leaders, but hey, SCARY ANARCHISTS HATE POLICE BUILDINGS CLEARLY WE NEED TO THROW EVERYONE WHO READ THE TRIUMPH OF BREAD IN A FEDERAL PRISON
 

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Fuck I said triumph not conquest I’m an idiot best Santa will have no loaves for me this Christmas
 

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Fuck I said triumph not conquest I’m an idiot best Santa will have no loaves for me this Christmas
You know the only appropriate act when a comrade has failed the test of the sacred texts is to face the wall and accept your bullet for the ideological health of the collective. It's for the best.
 
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"And local law enforcement can do that"

The local law enforcement who has been pepper spraying anyone and everyone? The local law enforcement that keeps firing rubber bullets at protesters heads? The local law enforcement that has decided that the best way to deal with people protesting police brutality is to beat them with clubs until they stop protesting police brutality?

Those local law enforcement?

But hey, I suppose Joe Biden might want the cops to shoot the protesters in the leg instead of the head so I guess that's progress?
I would have added that these local cops seem to very adept at making arsonists out water. Anarchists out of a mum fence.

Or just pick people randomly and shove them in a van

Also, totally get the wrong person and shooting them dead.

What I'm trying to say is they just make shit up
 

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no medical system reforms.
Well, except for the universally-available public option, the cap on premiums, etc. M4A would obviously be better, but reforms do exist that aren't M4A.
 

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Well, except for the universally-available public option, the cap on premiums, etc. M4A would obviously be better, but reforms do exist that aren't M4A.
Buddy, Biden wants me in jail as much as Trump, he clearly doesn’t fucking care about my vote. You wanna split hairs to justify voting tactically, have fun. Biden’s said me and mine can burn in hell and honestly, right back at em.
 
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Buddy, Biden wants me in jail as much as Trump, he clearly doesn’t fucking care about my vote. You wanna split hairs to justify voting tactically, have fun. Biden’s said me and mine can burn in hell and honestly, right back at em.
That's fine, I'm not trying to convince you to vote either way; it's clear you've decided already. I'm pointing out that it's factually untrue to say the platform doesn't involve medical system reforms. It includes quite a few.
 

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That's fine, I'm not trying to convince you to vote either way; it's clear you've decided already. I'm pointing out that it's factually untrue to say the platform doesn't involve medical system reforms. It includes quite a few.
Pfft, I had decided, quite loudly and on this forum, to vote for him up until the shameful platform vote and more importantly him saying “anarchists” should all be in jail. He lost my vote through his own goddamn blundering and do not act like it is some stubborn moralism or idealism on my part causing that, as I am so far from either of those things in how I approach politics as to make such accusations farcical.

But please, go on and “well actually” in this thread, defending a man who has made it known he would do the exact same things that Trump is doing right now, but in a way that wouldn’t draw media attention. Make it clear how insubstantial your stance on this matter is. I’m sure we’ll all have a wonderful time of it. Please, I beg you, amuse me in these trying times. The farce of this empty political dance over the ashes of America is all I have left.
 

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Pfft, I had decided, quite loudly and on this forum, to vote for him up until the shameful platform vote and more importantly him saying “anarchists” should all be in jail. He lost my vote through his own goddamn blundering and do not act like it is some stubborn moralism or idealism on my part causing that, as I am so far from either of those things in how I approach politics as to make such accusations farcical.

But please, go on and “well actually” in this thread, defending a man who has made it known he would do the exact same things that Trump is doing right now, but in a way that wouldn’t draw media attention. Make it clear how insubstantial your stance on this matter is. I’m sure we’ll all have a wonderful time of it. Please, I beg you, amuse me in these trying times. The farce of this empty political dance over the ashes of America is all I have left.
I didn't say anything about stubborn moralism, I didn't try to convince you to vote however-which-way. I'm not getting into that and never tried to.

I'm not trying to convince you of anything except that the platform involves medical system reform. It factually does.
 

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Pfft, I had decided, quite loudly and on this forum, to vote for him up until the shameful platform vote and more importantly him saying “anarchists” should all be in jail.
This part is making me dizzy. The "protests are getting Trump reelected" logic they're going with is baffling.

1) A surge in protests actually dragged down Trump's approval rating.
2) Federal government starts engaging with protests, approval rating increases a bit.
3) Democrats think the clashes with federal law enforcement are helping Trump. Which is sort of half true, but only in the sense that he's regaining some of the approval he lost when he was watching the country burn from a bunker.
4) Democrats turn on the protests, not because of any fundamental problem with the messages or property destruction, but because they now see the protesters as Trump allies.
5) Democrats say anarchists should be in jail.
6) The anarchists are pushed to become de facto Trump allies.

I don't know whether to be baffled by the multiple tiers of political incompetence, or to jump on the "Democrats are actually trying to lose on purpose" train.
 
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I don't know whether to be baffled by the multiple tiers of political incompetence, or to jump on the "Democrats are actually trying to lose on purpose" train.
The stars must be aligned in some kind of eldritch sign, because this is one of those rare moments when we agree.

Like, yeah, it's likely political incompetence, because democratic party strategists are the dumbest mother!@#$ers in washington, only followed by republican strategists... But good looooord they never cease to fail so hard it looks like it's intentional. (And some, like pelosi, love having trump in the white house so they can fundraise off of fears of the stuff he's up to)

Like, against a highly aggressive proto-fascist goon who is only good at pretending to be a populist who wants to burn down the establishment...They run a senile old man who will change nothing, doing whatever they can to stop the actual real populist with grassroots support.

THEN, a pandemic and economic crisis AND protests rip through the country, tearing holes in trump's approval, and his response is....to pretend it'll all go away on its own and instead focus on "protect the statues!" and sending federal goons to nab people, escalating anger further.

THEN THEN, not to be undone, the Biden campaign proceeds to triple down on anti-populism and offers zero reason to vote for them, in fact, taking reasons AWAY.

It almost feels like their advisors are both trying their hardest to throw the election, and it's MIND BOGGLING.
 
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