Labour Party Leaked Report & the Inquiry

[SupahEwok]

Oh. Righteo. So how about that football game last week?

Season hasn't started yet, but man, all the stuff going down in Seattle, amirite?

 

[Seanchaidh]

Regardless of where one falls on this particular issue, the scandal had been ongoing for many months and was doing enormous reputational damage to the party. The decision to settle was the best course of action from a damage-limitation perspective.

If it's to the point where a cowardly surrender and apology when you're right is the best course of action, it sounds like there's no winning at all and why bother?

 

[Specter Von Baren]

Season hasn't started yet, but man, all the stuff going down in Seattle, amirite?

I believe the people of upside down land are of the heathen folk that call soccer, football.

 

[CM156]

I'd settle for a regulator that actually has some kind of legal power, rather than the toothless industry-approved rubber stamp we currently have in the form of the IPSO.

Honest question because I don't know as much about this issue (being an American whose knowledge of law in the UK is mostly very old cases), but what would a regulator be able to do in a situation like this?

Personally, I was never a fan of Corbyn. Though due to a different reason that most people, I shouldn't wonder.

 

[Trunkage]

Probably because outside of you, me, Kwak and maybe Yoshi, no one else is likely to know who the fuck you’re talking about.

What am I, chopped liver? I'm pretty sure I'm the only Queenslander on here

Fun fact, 'Sir Joh' is grandkids are my 4th (or 5th, I cant quite remember) cousins. Haven't been in touch with any of them since I was a teenager. This is stuff I usually dont disclose to Queenslander based on what he did

 

[Gordon_4]

What am I, chopped liver? I'm pretty sure I'm the only Queenslander on here

Fun fact, 'Sir Joh' is grandkids are my 4th (or 5th, I cant quite remember) cousins. Haven't been in touch with any of them since I was a teenager. This is stuff I usually dont disclose to Queenslander based on what he did

I keep forgetting you’re from down here, but I never knew you were a banana bender.

 

[Trunkage]

I keep forgetting you’re from down here, but I never knew you were a banana bender.

Hawki is Aussie too. But Im the only one from up here

 

[Silvanus]

If it's to the point where a cowardly surrender and apology when you're right is the best course of action, it sounds like there's no winning at all and why bother?

With regards to the scandal and the legal action, there was no winning. It was a matter of damage limitation. With regards to the election, winning is very much on the cards, which is the reason to bother with the damage limitation.

Honest question because I don't know as much about this issue (being an American whose knowledge of law in the UK is mostly very old cases), but what would a regulator be able to do in a situation like this?

In a situation like this, not much. I was speaking generally about what I'd like to see in terms of press reform. At present, they can print demonstrable falsehood, and are under no obligation to correct it or even avoid doing it in the first place. Our press regulator, IPSO, is an opt-in, legally powerless entity.

 

[Revnak]

In a situation like this, not much. I was speaking generally about what I'd like to see in terms of press reform. At present, they can print demonstrable falsehood, and are under no obligation to correct it or even avoid doing it in the first place. Our press regulator, IPSO, is an opt-in, legally powerless entity.

Given the legally mandated neutrality of the BBC did nothing to stop them from going wild with this narrative I think more state regulation will probably be less effective than a swift end to the many bastard children of Mr Murdoch. Start over, clean slate, nobody who ever wrote for a British rag is allowed to call themselves a journalist again.

 

[Specter Von Baren]

Given the legally mandated neutrality of the BBC did nothing to stop them from going wild with this narrative I think more state regulation will probably be less effective than a swift end to the many bastard children of Mr Murdoch. Start over, clean slate, nobody who ever wrote for a British rag is allowed to call themselves a journalist again.

Doing the same for a lot of other news outlets around the world wouldn't be bad either.

 

[Agema]

If it's to the point where a cowardly surrender and apology when you're right is the best course of action, it sounds like there's no winning at all and why bother?

If you want to change the world, first you have take the power to do so. This means the best course of action is accepting some of the grubby compromises that the real world obliges you to in order to take power.

 

[SupahEwok]

I believe the people of upside down land are of the heathen folk that call soccer, football.

I'm aware. They get to be wrong and I get to be right.

 

[SupahEwok]

If you want to change the world, first you have take the power to do so.

 

[Seanchaidh]

If you want to change the world, first you have take the power to do so. This means the best course of action is accepting some of the grubby compromises that the real world obliges you to in order to take power.

If you're losing when you're right, then there is evidently no hope since the ghouls will always find something to go on about.

 

[Agema]

If you're losing when you're right, then there is evidently no hope since the ghouls will always find something to go on about.

We've only got so much of people's patience to persuade them, so much money to spend/invest, so much time to work on anything. Thus in every area of life, we have to pick our battles - and those who want to go far pick the ones they'll get most out of.

 

[Silvanus]

If you're losing when you're right, then there is evidently no hope since the ghouls will always find something to go on about.

No hope of making a victory out of the scandal, that's entirely true. After the scandal had already dragged for several months, there was no possibility of Labour winning the rhetorical battle on that one.

But the scandal and the legal challenge are not the election. You lose that particular battle in such a way as to minimise the damage, and your chance of winning the election is greater.

 

[Avnger]

<American Revolution snip>

<French Revolution snip>

<Russian Revolution snip>

So you're going to pick up a rifle and start the conflict any day now, right? Who are you going to shoot first? A soldier? A cop? A politician? A banker?

Surely you're not just sitting safely at home behind your computer waiting for others to make the monumental sacrifices such a revolution would require for you...

 

[SupahEwok]

So you're going to pick up a rifle and start the conflict any day now, right? Who are you going to shoot first? A soldier? A cop? A politician? A banker?

Surely you're not just sitting safely at home behind your computer waiting for others to make the monumental sacrifices such a revolution would require for you...

You'd be surprised.

Edit: I am indeed looking into rifles and local community defense organizations, of the leftist sort since the NRA and sovereign citizens have gobbled up any alternative. That's all I want to say on a public forum.

 

[Specter Von Baren]

You'd be surprised.

Edit: I am indeed looking into rifles and local community defense organizations, of the leftist sort since the NRA and sovereign citizens have gobbled up any alternative. That's all I want to say on a public forum.

Ha! Jokes on you. I have surreptitious photos of the folks you're getting help from.

 

[SupahEwok]

Ha! Jokes on you. I have surreptitious photos of the folks you're getting help from.

A) where did you get that
B) I hated that photo when it was took, Stalin refuses to wear deodorant or use soap and shampoo (he says that they're products for the bourgeoisie to feel superior to the proletariat), and the BO was immense.