Police shoot (another) unarmed black man in the back 7 times
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So if he was 17, and this was the same guy they saw earlier with the cops, they let him walk around with the gun and allowed this to happen?! They never asked for his ID or anything? You would think they would at least ask a kid walking around with a gun at a protest for their ID .. just in case something happened in the crowd.. but oh yea he was white so he can do whatever he wants right?
Hmm, very interesting. I notice though that none of these words are providing citations to the earlier claim. I mean, if welfare fraud is over 90% of cases, I want to see that data.
More than that, in fact. They were getting real chummy with him and thanking him for supporting them. After shooting 3 people he approached the cops to turn himself in and they let him go.
Nauseating. Seriously. They could have prevented this. But oh yea. white guy can do whatever he wants. The law only applies to those other people.
Apparently the adolescent walking polyp was a huge Blue Lives Matter junkie on social media. This is just the more extreme version of people saying Blue Lives Matters stickers on their cars get them out of tickets and traffic stops 100% of the time.
So centuries-long systemic and institutional racism and withholding of opportunity from a people who only 60 years ago were considered equal Americans on paper have never been a thing, isn't the case today, and isn't a factor in the plight of many of those who chose criminal lifestyles? I want to live the world you've imagined. "American" ideals are only as good as those they extend to and encompass; I don't want to hear about "cultural values" until that extends to encompass a culture that was condemned to hundreds of years of involuntary servitude, and even after that, subjected to segregation, violence and an existence with those in power that that begrudgingly tolerate them at best. "All men" weren't equal when that storied document pretended such was the case, and such continues to be the case. Not condoning or excusing criminals, but I understand that in some cases, it seems to be most viable choice.
Listen, I'm not a teenager, but I have a lot of attitude.Is this your grandfather by any chance?
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Or sense of moral responsibility. What superhero team calls for Adults with Moral Responsibility?!
I have the vaguest inkling that I started something. It will be fun to see what, exactly.
As someone who grew up with Power Rangers, the "She is Rita Repulsa" meme is simultaneously the best thing ever...and also makes me sad because Rita deserves better than to be associated with a person THAT horrible.Is this your grandfather by any chance?
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Oh, that wasn't a vague "kind of thing" they'll say, I'm predicting that's exactly the approach they'll use. They instructed him not to move to the car, then not to reach in. He was noncompliant, and when his hands were out of sight in the car, they fired because they believed he was reaching into the car for a weapon.
Why that specific excuse? It requires the least deviation from the truth of what happened while also giving them a way to justify what they did. Means less contradictory evidence should it go to trial.
Each situation is different but I'd say the French Revolution was as much about civil rights, institutional reforms and the absolute rule of Louis XIV as it was about peasant uprising. They don't call the second part of the revolution under Robespierre 'the terror' for nothing. If you think public revolts are somehow always justified in their grievances then by the same token you must condone the masses of Nazi sympathizers at Hitler's rallies. You could say the elite is bad for amassing wealth and power that the poor don't benefit from but the irony of the situation is that 'the poor' aren't any better when the situation is reversed. In the case of the French Revolution when Louis XIV and his wife Marie Antoinette were decapitated out of spite who did the Jacobines serve? The guilds that were now forbidden? Churches whose possessions were confiscated and could no longer practice? Or everyone who was executed because they didn't agree with the new regime?
Dalrymple might be a bit paternalistic, it's also his generation, but his critics keep harping on him despite that he's one of the few who actually means well. Shifting the blame and never taking responsibility never helped anyone. Many of his former patients even agree with this assessment but it's not what they were led to believe. It's a form of learned helplesness that makes addicts and people with pyschiatric and/or socioeconomic problems dependent on the state that is actually way more paternalistic
That's a fair point. Housing prices and rent should go way down and minimum wages should go way up. But this isn't the fault of the ultra rich. The legislative branch can put caps on rent and make sure everyone gets paid a decent wage. It's not the fault of the ultra rich that politicians have no backbone and don't increase dividend tax and it's also not the fault of the ultra rich that billions of tax revenue go to the military industrial complex while the poor sleep in a box. Like I said the problem isn't solved by taking money from the rich and giving it to the poor because the poor are no better when they were the ones who were rich. Because people are people and only look after themselves. Just look at social media, everyone is awful. Any difference is merely a matter of perspective and these 'rich vs poor' dichotomies are largely artificial. Even with all the rich people gone the poor would still be poor. Probably even more so b/c even fewer people who pay a lot of taxes wouldn't be around anymore.
'Cushy office job'? This guy was a prison doctor who worked with addicts and criminals in East London. He actually listened to what they had to say, analyzed their behavior when they tried to shift the blame and then said to them this was bullshit and that they themselves were responsible for the things they did. Many were taken so aback by so much honesty that they couldn't do anything but agree. At the very least it resonated more than the tired excuses they always heard that it wasn't them but their parents, the neighbourhood, society and santa clause.
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So, I tried finding actual evidence that 10 out of every 11 welfare claims in the US at least are fraudulent, and I haven't found anything like that. When you said you had sources, did you just mean that one polemicist you already cited?
Shall I take your radio silence as the closest you'll get to admitting you make shit up?
Ok but how many centuries have to pass before some people can finally move on? Many black people are highly succesful so what is their excuse? Even the previous president was black and popular enough to serve two terms. He wasn't rich when he started so who 'withheld opportunities' from him?
It's class, it's race, it's wealth, it's the length of my big toe. Inadequacy is always the fault of someone else.
I imagine you already have an answer. So go ahead and tell us all: how long ago should people of color stopped standing up for themselves? And while you're at it, get me those citations already.
The Police let it happen.. The kid was not legally able to have the gun, he was underage and prior to the shooting he was hanging out with the cops WHILE ARMED. Then, if that were not bad enough they tried to let him go later when he tried to turn himself in after the shooting. Seriously. So messed up. Instead of card the kid walking around with a gun illegally, they were all chummy with him. Instead of confiscate his illegal firearm they let him shoot people...
Yeah I saw the clips, he looked young as well. He was with someone else though, he was too young to drive. Of course he was armed, the whole militia was armed. It's easy to understand why they didn't check him for ID if you look at the clips.
You can normally legally drive at 16, but he may not have had a Driver's License. Why didn't they check everyone's ID that was armed? I saw the clips, those just make it worse. If they were partying at a club, the cops would have lined em up against the wall made them all get their ID's out, but if you walk around at a protest ready to shoot people they don't make sure your legal? WTH? Beer = bad, Gun = Fine?!
Easy. Because they were there to support the cops and shoot people protesting the cops.
From what I can tell there weren't that many cops around and they stayed in their cars. It was one step away from chaos, you can't scour the city and check IDs. Club has one entrance, so you can check it, and the city isn't a club... Much more difficult