Another Incident in Portland

Recommended Videos

Agema

Overhead a rainbow appears... in black and white
Legacy
Mar 3, 2009
9,917
7,080
118
" People have died at concerts, that is not the concert's fault." - Actually it is, they have a legal liability.
They have liability for certain things, such as meeting minimum standards for safety. But that still leaves plenty of ways people can kill themselves and others at a concert that the venue has no responsibility for.
 

Iron

BOI
Sep 6, 2013
1,741
259
88
Country
Occupied Palestine
They have liability for certain things, such as meeting minimum standards for safety. But that still leaves plenty of ways people can kill themselves and others at a concert that the venue has no responsibility for.
True. Yet it still corrects @lil devils x 's post regarding how the protests have no responsibility for the deaths.
 

Seanchaidh

Elite Member
Legacy
Mar 21, 2009
6,132
3,706
118
Country
United States of America
Who built your computer? your phone?
Workers.

Who made the clothes on your back?
Workers.

Who farmed the food you ate?
Workers.

The people who actually do the work that makes society possible have had their jobs move overseas. Your ideology is obsolete.
This demonstrates an appalling lack of knowledge about what you're criticizing-- a has not even heard the phrase 'international socialism' level of appalling.

True. Yet it still corrects @lil devils x 's post regarding how the protests have no responsibility for the deaths.
Haha, no.
 

Iron

BOI
Sep 6, 2013
1,741
259
88
Country
Occupied Palestine
Workers.



Workers.



Workers.



This demonstrates an appalling lack of knowledge about what you're criticizing-- a has not even heard the phrase 'international socialism' level of appalling.



Haha, no.
Haha you're so deep into this shit.
It would have been appalling had I been a student in the USSR, where a fourth of the curriculum was this garbage.
1598166583044.jpg
 

Agema

Overhead a rainbow appears... in black and white
Legacy
Mar 3, 2009
9,917
7,080
118
It would have been appalling had I been a student in the USSR, where a fourth of the curriculum was this garbage.
Maybe, but that education was good enough for the state to develop nuclear weapons and power, a world-class space program and competitive military technology.

And if you were born poor, you could also get the best education available in the USSR, unlike the West where elite education is mostly is the preserve of people with tons of daddy's money.
 

tstorm823

Elite Member
Legacy
Aug 4, 2011
7,660
978
118
Country
USA
So... you're placing all the illegal stuff outside of the protest in the same category as the protesters?
To be fair, that's a both sides thing. When they compile lists of "far-right terrorism", they include questionably related things. For example, a couple once had their infant child die. It was unclear if it was infanticide or just criminal negligence. They abandoned their home with the dead infant left behind. Their crime was discovered, they were arrested. The man had a swastika tattoo, so this ended up in databases of "far-right violence". Those claiming the "Far-right extremists" are major threats don't do anything to distinguish between political violence and unrelated violence.
 

Iron

BOI
Sep 6, 2013
1,741
259
88
Country
Occupied Palestine
Maybe, but that education was good enough for the state to develop nuclear weapons and power, a world-class space program and competitive military technology.

And if you were born poor, you could also get the best education available in the USSR, unlike the West where elite education is mostly is the preserve of people with tons of daddy's money.
That's not true.
Soviet higher education was first a place for the learning of Marxism-Leninism theory first and the technical fields second. It put emphasis on exporting the revolution and reserved spots for foreign students from Marxist nations.
Admission into these universities was very difficult, since there were many more applicants than spots available. Applicants would require private tutoring to be able to pass the exams. Often connections of the parents in the party or the administration were required to enter, and bribes were not uncommon.

If you were a peasant-boy from some village you wouldn't have the connections or money to enter a good university, or any university at all.

Source - my family. Both of my parents studied in the USSR's universities.
 
Last edited:

Agema

Overhead a rainbow appears... in black and white
Legacy
Mar 3, 2009
9,917
7,080
118
If you were a peasant-boy from some village you wouldn't have the connections or money to enter a good university, or any university at all.
Sure, I have anecdotal sources too, of two friends who came from "peasant" class and were admitted to specialist schools in the USSR because they showed talent.

I'm sure there was corruption and places were taken by the well-connected undeserving, but at least the access was still there. Doesn't matter if you have the talent, bar a tiny proportion of scholarships, you're not going to private schools and the likes of Harvard unless your parents are flush.
 

TheMysteriousGX

Elite Member
Legacy
Sep 16, 2014
8,580
7,215
118
Country
United States
I'm under the impression that ambrosia exists.
Not sure what you expect a marshmallow fruit salad to do under these circumstances
6A073258-CD90-4DE7-A176-5A6A4E0AC75D.jpeg

It's (not actually) weird to see political protests not getting the same leeway sports celebrations get. Like, if somebody loots a convenience store while people are in the streets celebrating a sportsball win, it's downright easy for people to say "well that's not the fault of the happy sportsball people". But a dude gets shot during a robbery a couple miles away from a protest against police brutality and that's definitely connected, I guess
 
  • Like
Reactions: SupahEwok

Dwarvenhobble

Is on the Gin
May 26, 2020
6,020
668
118
I dont disagree with him being an idiot. I was disagree with the notion that he should be counted with the protesters 'kills' and not placed into a category of looter/rioter
Well I did say Rioters to begin with but you wanted to have them counted as protesters or so it seems

Protests are not the cause of someone else doing a bad thing at or near them. Protests are a protected right. Blaming the protest is like blaming the concert for people doing bad things at or near the concert. People have died at concerts, that is not the concert's fault.
No they are happily ending up providing cover for people to riot and loot.

Protests are protected by rights.

Riots are not

Some people seem to want to equate the two and claim the actions are
 

lil devils x

🐐More Lego Goats Please!🐐
Legacy
May 1, 2020
3,330
1,045
118
Country
🐐USA🐐
Gender
♀
Well I did say Rioters to begin with but you wanted to have them counted as protesters or so it seems


No they are happily ending up providing cover for people to riot and loot.

Protests are protected by rights.

Riots are not

Some people seem to want to equate the two and claim the actions are
Happily? We have seen tons of footage of protesters STOPPING other people from doing bad shit at protests. They followed that " hammer guy" breaking windows around at the protest and chased him out of the area. We have seen protesters intervene in hundreds of these incidents where people were doing bad things so to blame them is seriously messed up tbh. Many of these protests deemed a riot where property was destroyed we still ha d protesters stopping people from doing bad things. Them not being able to stop them all does not suddenly mean the protests are the problem. You re suggesting they should bully protesters into silence by doing bad shit. Besides, if it was that easy to stop protests by just doing something bad, don't you think the cops would be doing a lot of bad shit just to blame the protesters and give them a reason to shut down? Oh.. yea that happened too:

 
  • Like
Reactions: Jarrito3002

Houseman

Mad Hatter Meme Machine.
Legacy
Apr 4, 2020
3,910
760
118
Happily? We have seen tons of footage of protesters STOPPING other people from doing bad shit at protests. They followed that " hammer guy" breaking windows around at the protest and chased him out of the area. We have seen protesters intervene in hundreds of these incidents where people were doing bad things so to blame them is seriously messed up tbh. Many of these protests deemed a riot where property was destroyed we still ha d protesters stopping people from doing bad things.
Whatever happened to the "you care more about property than black lives!" argument?
When "the right" decries the destruction, looting, and arson, it's "you care more about property..."
When the protesters do it, it's okay.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Dwarvenhobble

Revnak

We must imagine Sisyphus horny
Legacy
May 25, 2020
2,944
3,099
118
Country
USA
Posting here sober feels like riding a bike with training wheels.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Kae