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Yup, he's gonna win the presidency. People are easily swayed by elders who survive, no matter how horrible they are.

Fine you people want to see me go after Trump for something that has a decent basis in fact? Not spin. Not Trump's normal level of inelegance but something you can see in that video that is really annoying?


"Miracles, they're like miracles sent down from God"

Fuck you Miracles and Fuck you damned imaginary friend in the sky Mr Trump it's not god sent miracles it's hard damn work by likely underpaid scientist in some labs somewhere who worked to understand and develop this stuff. It's not God sending this stuff it's Science and it pissed me the fuck off to see the work of scientists who haven't yet given up on the world and still have that drive to do good have their fucking months of hard work attributed to a fucking imaginary sky person because that lets people continue to ignore scientists and pretend they don't really matter much.
 
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New news apparently it wasn't the Rose Garden event where the cases started from but "Some-one out of town" who was part of helping organise the debates



At least 11 positive coronavirus tests can be traced to members of the media or organizers of this week's presidential debate in Cleveland, city and clinic officials said Friday.


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According to the city, 11 positive cases of COVID-19 have stemmed from 'pre-debate planning and set-up.' The city adds that the majority of those 11 cases have occurred among out of state residents. No city residents appear to have contracted coronavirus as a result of the debate, but that could still change.
The Clinic added that everyone permitted inside the debate hall tested negative for COVID-19 prior to entry.
Now while you can get a false negative it does suggest it started from the debate not the Rose Garden event as you'd not expect quite that many false negatives.
 

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Yup, he's gonna win the presidency. People are easily swayed by elders who survive, no matter how horrible they are.

Are we sure it's him and not some fancy CGI? I mean, some people are saying he's already dead and this is just a deep state plot to make it look like he's still alive. They use the imagine to make him say whatever they want and make everyone get COVID microchips to control our brains and impurify our bodily fluids.

No, I don't have to give specifics or evidence about any of this, because the media just lies all the time!

/Walks out
 

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Fine you people want to see me go after Trump for something that has a decent basis in fact? Not spin. Not Trump's normal level of inelegance but something you can see in that video that is really annoying?

"Miracles, they're like miracles sent down from God"
A lot more of Trump's supporters vote for God than they do for science.

Personally, I don't think Trump is remotely religious - far too self-absorbed. But I think he's very careful to throw in the right boilerplate pieties for his base.
 
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So.

On one hand, we have a candidate who follows Scientifically laid out procedures. Minimum to null reported infections.

On the other, we have an incumbent who flouted all the rules, and there is a mini-outbreak happening in their camp.

And there are voters who still say "Trump isn't to blame for the virus. Nothing could be done"

I think a lot of you believe that I'm blind to the world. That mainly the answer is malice or indifference. I'm not blind. What I am is wondering why they can't just admit it? They look actually dumber trying to pretend it's anything but their desire to stick it to the liberals or that they want to be catered to. At least you can respect that self centeredness.

There is no clearer evidence of what Trump did than this entire election. Just have the courage to admit that you're indifferent to actual human life and you want a president to focus solely on you and making you feel important. It's better to be considered selfish than it is to be considered stupid.
 

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So.

On one hand, we have a candidate who follows Scientifically laid out procedures. Minimum to null reported infections.

On the other, we have an incumbent who flouted all the rules, and there is a mini-outbreak happening in their camp.

And there are voters who still say "Trump isn't to blame for the virus. Nothing could be done"

I think a lot of you believe that I'm blind to the world. That mainly the answer is malice or indifference. I'm not blind. What I am is wondering why they can't just admit it? They look actually dumber trying to pretend it's anything but their desire to stick it to the liberals or that they want to be catered to. At least you can respect that self centeredness.

There is no clearer evidence of what Trump did than this entire election. Just have the courage to admit that you're indifferent to actual human life and you want a president to focus solely on you and making you feel important. It's better to be considered selfish than it is to be considered stupid.

See based on the stuff I posted before.

1) Apparently Trump's supporters etc did come in with masks on according to some and took them off once seated.

2) Trump getting it and Biden not (reminder they both were distanced apart and both weren't wearing masks for the debate) and weren't seen interacting with the audience members on their side other than their wives after the debate.

3) The article points out it was likely from an out of state organiser working on the debates thought to be patient zero for this little outbreak .

It could be reasonably assumed it was some-one who met the Republican side or worked with them back stage as specifically only Republicans are infected here.

Look I'd like to dunk on Trump and Co too and say that this is some great proof of their flouting rules coming back to bite them but it could well just be because the Patient Zero almost exclusively interacted with Trump's party. Thus more chances to catch it and mask wearing (which it's alleged Trump and Co were doing upon entering and you can see Melania wearing her mask too at the end of the debates) didn't have anything to do with this or far less to do with it.

The mask isn't a magic stop all. It helps but it won't stop it dead and so a spreader being about round only Republicans mostly would mean that yeh even if they were masked up there could have been an outbreak.

Worse still everyone tested negative before going in so this was likely a false negative test which also gave a false sense of security because everyone in there thought everyone (including staff) were not a risk.

Trump's blame is the blame he always should get. For being a fool but it's also the leeway he should get because he likely really doesn't get it but his yammering about cleaning lights inside people etc were because people were trying to get him to understand and he was seemingly trying to grasp the ideas.
 

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Okay Im starting to get confused. I've seen articles about Trump doing work, videos, staged or otherwise of him doing work, just read he waved and greeted supporters leaving Walter Reed, and then other articles about how he could be in critical condition, and they're using steroids to artificially raise his oxygen, and other drugs to artificially lower his fever.
Personally I think its a hoax, but its weird some outlets are like "Oh yeah he's fine, he's being discharged even as we speak and lost 200lbs" and others are like "Sources say he's on his death bed and is bleeding from his fingertips and his eyes have started to speak"

He's like Schrodinger's president and we won't know his actual status until Biden agrees to suspend his campaign.
 

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Yea, sounds like trump being his usual dumbass self is pissing off his Physicians too:

He isn't holding back how he feels about this, don't blame him though, he is 100% right. I was making similar comments when I saw that BS too.:
 
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Okay Im starting to get confused. I've seen articles about Trump doing work, videos, staged or otherwise of him doing work, just read he waved and greeted supporters leaving Walter Reed, and then other articles about how he could be in critical condition, and they're using steroids to artificially raise his oxygen, and other drugs to artificially lower his fever.
Personally I think its a hoax, but its weird some outlets are like "Oh yeah he's fine, he's being discharged even as we speak and lost 200lbs" and others are like "Sources say he's on his death bed and is bleeding from his fingertips and his eyes have started to speak"

He's like Schrodinger's president and we won't know his actual status until Biden agrees to suspend his campaign.
I keep telling people to stop worrying about it for now. He is sick. It is likely he will get worse before he gets better. He is an idiot, so he is more worried about people thinking he is weak and so he does stupid shit putting everyone else at risk for no reason whatsoever. He doesn't care if anyone else dies from getting sick from him, because he doesn't care about anyone other than himself. He is very unlikely to actually die from this simply due to the level of care he is able to get that no one else can, people are just overreacting as usual. I am sure the NFL players who have receive supplemental oxygen on the sidelines are looking at people freaking out about it with their heads cocked sideways wondering WTF is wrong with people getting all worked up about something that really isn't a big deal in the first place.

Hell many people in his condition cannot even get a hospital bed and people are worried every time they dote on him. He is getting special treatment, like I said earlier. No one else gets the level of treatment he does. I take medications to raise my oxygen levels daily and Tylenol is also a drug to artificially lower your fever and everyone takes that when they are sick too... I don't understand why people are making a bigger deal of this than it is.
 

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Yea that was what pissed his doctors off as posted above...
In his other video, he did look somewhat pale. But now it looks like he is on steroids, or they gave him performance enhances like Sleepy Joe. Now he is infected, and will just walk among people. Oh well, I guess his fans will learn the hard way once their god emperor contaminates them with the Chinese virus.
 
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"Every single person in the vehicle during that completely unnecessary Presidential “drive-by” just now has to be quarantined for 14 days."

I thought that the President has their own compartment, separate from the driver's compartment? That's how the limo was. There's a divider between the back seats and the front seats.

Do we know enough about the construction and the internals of the SUV to know that there aren't separate compartments?
 

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In his other video, he did look somewhat pale. But now it looks like he is on steroids, or they gave him performance enhances like Sleepy Joe. Now he is infected, and will just walk among people. Oh well, I guess his fans will learn the hard way once their god emperor contaminates them with the Chinese virus.
This one had makeup, a filter and better editing.. notice how they gave him the blur glamour shots glow? LOL
He still looks the same as the pale, old one in reality where he likely saw it and said "OMG you made me look like my grandfather!" and sent him into a rage.
 
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See based on the stuff I posted before.

1) Apparently Trump's supporters etc did come in with masks on according to some and took them off once seated.

2) Trump getting it and Biden not (reminder they both were distanced apart and both weren't wearing masks for the debate) and weren't seen interacting with the audience members on their side other than their wives after the debate.

3) The article points out it was likely from an out of state organiser working on the debates thought to be patient zero for this little outbreak .

It could be reasonably assumed it was some-one who met the Republican side or worked with them back stage as specifically only Republicans are infected here.

Look I'd like to dunk on Trump and Co too and say that this is some great proof of their flouting rules coming back to bite them but it could well just be because the Patient Zero almost exclusively interacted with Trump's party. Thus more chances to catch it and mask wearing (which it's alleged Trump and Co were doing upon entering and you can see Melania wearing her mask too at the end of the debates) didn't have anything to do with this or far less to do with it.

The mask isn't a magic stop all. It helps but it won't stop it dead and so a spreader being about round only Republicans mostly would mean that yeh even if they were masked up there could have been an outbreak.

Worse still everyone tested negative before going in so this was likely a false negative test which also gave a false sense of security because everyone in there thought everyone (including staff) were not a risk.

Trump's blame is the blame he always should get. For being a fool but it's also the leeway he should get because he likely really doesn't get it but his yammering about cleaning lights inside people etc were because people were trying to get him to understand and he was seemingly trying to grasp the ideas.
You would have a fantastic point if the only protocol we had was masks.

It isn't.

-Social distancing.


-Do not attend events with more than 50 people

It was reported that nearly 200 seemingly all maskless people attended the event.

-Washing hands

... can't comment on that. But I really doubt they were exclusively washing their hands while this event was going on.

So. Yes. All the things even kindergarteners were taught, they ignored for a political stance. And they are now sadly suffering for that. Pointing out the facts isn't a dunk. It is pointing out facts.
 

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"Every single person in the vehicle during that completely unnecessary Presidential “drive-by” just now has to be quarantined for 14 days."

I thought that the President has their own compartment, separate from the driver's compartment? That's how the limo was. There's a divider between the back seats and the front seats.

Do we know enough about the construction and the internals of the SUV to know that there aren't separate compartments?
It didn't look like there was separation in the video of his driving by, he also had someone in the back seat with him. I am sure there is on some of his vehicles, not all though. ALSO, I do not think the car has a separate air conditioning system for the front and back so it wouldn't matter either way. The air is being circulated inside the vehicle since it is sealed from chemical attack from the outside means there is no outside air coming in. They are all likely breathing the same air inside the vehicle.
 
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