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So apparently one of the guys is named Brandon Caserta and this is a video of him.


And it's been pointed out that in the background of this very video is an Anarchist symbol.

So... who's "side" are these guys supposed to be on?
 

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I demand you help me Kae. I beg you. Please.
I was going to say something originally, but at this point I prefer to just watch, this absolutely absurd, besides I don't know lil, so I wouldn't know which jobs she's had in the past, I know she's a Pediatritian or some sort of Dr. now, but I'd be lying if I said I pay much attention to what anyone says on this board.
The only thing I object to is her suggestion that Nurse is a lesser job, while it's most definitely a lower-paying job that requires less education than a Doctor I'd argue is just as important and Doctors wouldn't be able to do their jobs without them, and therefore they deserve as much respect.

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I loved that Gif, I have it saved on my PC and I've also bookmarked the artist's webpage, I just decided to drop it since a lot of people seemed to be given the impression that I'm a stoner, but while it doesn't bother me, it's a bit awkward to have to explain to them one by one that I've actually never done drugs, not even weed so definitely not psychedelics.

Anyway regarding the meaning of words, especially ones that are politically charged, they tend to change meaning a lot, let's take for example the word Libertarian, it used to mean a classical Socialist Libertarian, which is to say you're average Anarchist but it's been warped so much that it somehow now means a Free Market Capitalist even though that pretty close to the opposite of it's original meaning and doesn't really match the dictionary definition of the word, but if I mention Libertarians, almost everyone here will assume I'm talking about Free Market Capitalists and not Anarchists.

A similar thing is happening to the word Liberal, where far right stooges like Jordan Peterson are claiming it by referring to themselves as classical Liberals, and radical liberals such as myself are trying to distance ourselves from it and mostly use it to refer to centrists, so anyways words change meaning, that's just how language works, adhering to dictionary definitions is foolish, the job of a dictionary is to adapt and change according to what the word means now not to be used as a tool to claim it doesn't mean what it clearly means now.

As for Whoopsie, guys I'm a filthy foreigner, what would I know?
Sure I've been to Texas, like when I was a kid and didn't speak English and I'm sure I've heard it in movies, but I doubt that gives me enough insight.
 
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So apparently one of the guys is named Brandon Caserta and this is a video of him.


And it's been pointed out that in the background of this very video is an Anarchist symbol.

So... who's "side" are these guys supposed to be on?
Are Ancap more about Anarchy or Capitalism?

Generally, the Political Spectrum goes from Authoritarian to Anarchism on one axis and Capitalist to Socialist on another
 

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So apparently one of the guys is named Brandon Caserta and this is a video of him.


And it's been pointed out that in the background of this very video is an Anarchist symbol.

So... who's "side" are these guys supposed to be on?
Yeah. So? None of this is out of the ordinary for Boogs at this point.
 

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I was going to say something originally, but at this point I prefer to just watch, this absolutely absurd, besides I don't know lil, so I wouldn't know which jobs she's had in the past, I know she's a Pediatritian or some sort of Dr. now, but I'd be lying if I said I pay much attention to what anyone says on this board.
The only thing I object to is her suggestion that Nurse is a lesser job, while it's most definitely a lower-paying job that requires less education than a Doctor I'd argue is just as important and Doctors wouldn't be able to do their jobs without them, and therefore they deserve as much respect.


I loved that Gif, I have it saved on my PC and I've also bookmarked the artist's webpage, I just decided to drop it since a lot of people seemed to be given the impression that I'm a stoner, but while it doesn't bother me, it's a bit awkward to have to explain to them one by one that I've actually never done drugs, not even weed so definitely not psychedelics.

Anyway regarding the meaning of words, especially ones that are politically charged, they tend to change meaning a lot, let's take for example the word Libertarian, it used to mean a classical Socialist Libertarian, which is to say you're average Anarchist but it's been warped so much that it somehow now means a Free Market Capitalist even though that pretty close to the opposite of it's original meaning and doesn't really match the dictionary definition of the word, but if I mention Libertarians, almost everyone here will assume I'm talking about Free Market Capitalists and not Anarchists.

A similar thing is happening to the word Liberal, where far right stooges like Jordan Peterson are claiming it by referring to themselves as classical Liberals, and radical liberals such as myself are trying to distance ourselves from it and mostly use it to refer to centrists, so anyways words change meaning, that's just how language works, adhering to dictionary definitions is foolish, the job of a dictionary is to adapt and change according to what the word means now not to be used as a tool to claim it doesn't mean what it clearly means now.

As for Whoopsie, guys I'm a filthy foreigner, what would I know?
Sure I've been to Texas, like when I was a kid and didn't speak English and I'm sure I've heard it in movies, but I doubt that gives me enough insight.
The issue I take with " Nurse" is not that there is anything wrong with being a nurse, I love nurses and have worked with a great many that I would do anything in the world for. It is that as a woman, men have a mental association with women in healthcare as being " nurses" instead of physicians even AFTER men are told repeatedly that the woman is a Physician, as was the case here. There is a long sexist history of this is the issue. I could have saved myself a great amount of money, time and effort to become a nurse, but I had to go through a hell of a lot more to earn the ability for me to become a pediatrician at all and people mentally associate far too often that not just me, but most female Physicians are nurses automatically rather than acknowledging us for who we are.

Here is more on this:

On your avatar. Yes, I liked it, but yes, I also understand the mental association.
 

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Are Ancap more about Anarchy or Capitalism?

Generally, the Political Spectrum goes from Authoritarian to Anarchism on one axis and Capitalist to Socialist on another
"Depends on who you ask" is the neutral answer.

The correct answer of course is "cutting out the middle man between you and the corporate overlords makes you the opposite of an anarchist".
 

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So apparently one of the guys is named Brandon Caserta and this is a video of him.


And it's been pointed out that in the background of this very video is an Anarchist symbol.

So... who's "side" are these guys supposed to be on?
These people tend to be so fucking stupid that they couldn’t blow up a balloon, I would be shocked if this dipshit didn’t even know what that symbol meant and just thought it looked cool.
 

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Generally, the Political Spectrum goes from Authoritarian to Anarchism on one axis and Capitalist to Socialist on another
This is why I really hate the political compass, and I think it's genuinely harmed the possibility of effective political consciousness.

Anarcho-Capitalism is an oxymoron. Capitalism is an inherently hierarchical and authoritarian concept. We already have a word for a system in which hierarchical social structures are enforced by personal contracts between individuals without the need for state arbitration. It's called feudalism, and it sucks balls.

In this particular case, it seems like the problem is less anarcho-capitalism and more equating anarchism with a mere dislike of government. There is, by necessity, a bit more to anarchism than just disliking the government. Disliking the government is, at best, a good starting point.
 
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I loved that Gif, I have it saved on my PC and I've also bookmarked the artist's webpage, I just decided to drop it since a lot of people seemed to be given the impression that I'm a stoner, but while it doesn't bother me, it's a bit awkward to have to explain to them one by one that I've actually never done drugs, not even weed so definitely not psychedelics'
I saved the artists website too, Thanks for linking it, those are cute! :D
 

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So apparently one of the guys is named Brandon Caserta and this is a video of him.


And it's been pointed out that in the background of this very video is an Anarchist symbol.

So... who's "side" are these guys supposed to be on?
*shrugs* Couldn't tell you. If memory serves me correctly, a lot of people tell me the Confederate Flag is a symbol of old time Southern Values. But then White Nationalist use it all the time.

Seems to me that people will take any symbol that makes them feel a certain way and adopt it to their liking.

You know, like Pepe The Frog

 

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*shrugs* Couldn't tell you. If memory serves me correctly, a lot of people tell me the Confederate Flag is a symbol of old time Southern Values. But then White Nationalist use it all the time.

Seems to me that people will take any symbol that makes them feel a certain way and adopt it to their liking.

You know, like Pepe The Frog

I'll never understand how appropriation actually works. like "Haha, this frog is now a nazi!"
...no? its not
Yes it is
No its not
Yes it is

And on and on. Like a modern media version of no takesies backsies erasie stamp stamp
 

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I'll never understand how appropriation actually works. like "Haha, this frog is now a nazi!"
...no? its not
Yes it is
No its not
Yes it is

And on and on. Like a modern media version of no takesies backsies erasie stamp stamp
I mean the creator had to take people to court to make them stop using it as a Nazi so there's that.