Militia Plot to Kidnap Michigan Governor and Overthrow Government

[lil devils x]

Liberalism - Wikipedia

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I'm fairly certain the Black Panthers weren't free market capitalists, which is the defining trait of liberals.

Just like that doesn't define progressives, who also generally aren't liberal.

There are liberal socialist too..

Liberal socialism - Wikipedia

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Like I said, context is everything.
AND, oddly enough, Liberal communists?

The liberal communist

BEADS of sweat appear on the brow of Estonia’s European Commission nominee when the words ‘ten million dollars’ are uttered.

www.politico.eu

 

[Gordon_4]

From my understanding, different nations have different political affiliations with the term, but the word in general in the English language is a synonym of progressive.

This is literally a discussion about its use in politics and how it related to political leanings and/or parties. You don’t get to hide behind a secondary adjective definition in this case because you made a whoopsy.

 

[lil devils x]

This is literally a discussion about its use in politics and how it related to political leanings and/or parties. You don’t get to hide behind a secondary adjective definition in this case because you made a whoopsy.

This is how I have always referred to this, and already had this discussion with Revnak in another thread.. It isn't a " whoopsy" , though I think I like that word. I have never heard the word " whoopsy" but then again, English wasn't my first language.

 

[tstorm823]

From my understanding, different nations have different political affiliations with the term, but the word in general in the English language is a synonym of progressive.

The political ideas of conservative and liberal both predate the common parlance. It's one of my favorite etymological fun facts.

The idea of liberal politics is half a millenium old, referring basically to a "you take care of yourself" attitude. Liberal means the same thing in the US as elsewhere, and the weird disconnect between US liberal and other places liberal stems from the shifted focus between economic and social policy, where US politics more often defines people by social policy than other cultures do, and we have a lot of socially liberal but economically progressive types. The use of liberal to mean something like "open to change" is a recent bastardization of language. Similarly, conservative as a political idea is centuries old. Conservative to mean "cautious or stingy" is very, very recent and should not be the basis of your outlook. To quote this website:

Conservative - Etymology, Origin & Meaning

Originating in late 14th-century Old French and Latin, "conservative" means tending to preserve or protect, derived from Latin conservare, "to keep or guard."

www.etymonline.com

"Phrases such as conservative estimate, in which it means "characterized by caution, deliberately low," make no sense etymologically. "

 

[lil devils x]

The political ideas of conservative and liberal both predate the common parlance. It's one of my favorite etymological fun facts.

The idea of liberal politics is half a millenium old, referring basically to a "you take care of yourself" attitude. The use of liberal to mean something like "open to change" is a recent bastardization of language. Similarly, conservative as a political idea is centuries old. Conservative to mean "cautious or stingy" is very, very recent and should not be the basis of your outlook. To quote this website:

Conservative - Etymology, Origin & Meaning

Originating in late 14th-century Old French and Latin, "conservative" means tending to preserve or protect, derived from Latin conservare, "to keep or guard."

www.etymonline.com

"Phrases such as conservative estimate, in which it means "characterized by caution, deliberately low," make no sense etymologically. "

In Native American politics, Conservative = traditionalist, Liberal= progressive, and how it literally translates from our languages into English.
Far from a "modern bastardization" this has been going on a long time.

 

[tstorm823]

In Native American politics, Conservative = traditionalist, Liberal= progressive, and how it literally translates from our languages into English.

Well, by my description, a traditionalist preserves the past, a conservative preserves the status quo, a progressive builds off the status quo, and a revolutionary seeks to destroy the status quo. Liberal isn't really a point on that axis.

 

[Revnak]

This is how I have always referred to this, and already had this discussion with Revnak in another thread.. It isn't a " whoopsy" , though I think I like that word. I have never heard the word " whoopsy" but then again, English wasn't my first language.

You live in Texas and worked as a fucking nurse you absolutely know a weird old white woman who says whoopsy god-fucking damnit I swear you just make shit up 90% of the time.

 

[lil devils x]

You live in Texas and worked as a fucking nurse you absolutely know a weird old white woman who says whoopsy god-fucking damnit I swear you just make shit up 90% of the time.

I was born on a reservation, I have NEVER worked as a nurse, and I have never heard the word Whoopsy in my life before now, and no I don't need to " make shit up" as my life is complicated enough as it is to have to add more to it. You haven't been keeping up.

What world do you live in where people walk around saying " whoopsy" ? Is that a thing where you live or something? It isn't here. It is like you have this cartoon version of Texas in your head or something. Sure, my life FEELS like a cartoon but that sounds like something that would be said when someone passed gas or something.
I don't even know what I am reading here:

Urban Dictionary: Whoopsy

Whoopsy: A screaming metrosexual, who uses a female shield ([pretend girlfriend]) to cover up his secret obsession with men. Symptoms include the constant...

www.urbandictionary.com

 

[SilentPony]

SNIP

Okay then, what previous unused word would you use to describe the Black Panthers to show their liberal values of progression and open to new ideas, but differentiates them from the not liberal enough by our standards liberalism of LBJ and JFK?

 

[tstorm823]

What world do you live in where people walk around saying " whoopsy" ? Is that a thing where you live or something? It isn't here. It is like you have this cartoon version of Texas in your head or something. Sure, my life FEELS like a cartoon but that sounds like something that would be said when someone passed gas or something.

My grandmother definitely has said "whoopsy", or sometimes even "whoopsy-daisy".

 

[lil devils x]

My grandmother definitely has said "whoopsy", or sometimes even "whoopsy-daisy".

I can promise you it is not a " Hopi" thing and tbh I am even more confused after looking it up in the urban dictionary. My grandmother would be looking at all you guys like you're nuts.

 

[Houseman]

You live in Texas and worked as a fucking nurse you absolutely know a weird old white woman who says whoopsy god-fucking damnit I swear you just make shit up 90% of the time.

Such innocent (and sudden) misunderstandings of "foreign English words" helps build her case that she doesn't know what words mean, so people will be more sympathetic towards her for not understanding what "liberal" means. She's assassinating her own character in such a way that when she falls, she'll land on a pillow.

It's like a cross between an excuse and a humblebrag. "Oh, excuse me for being multilingual and not knowing the subtleties of your jargon. My people do not believe in dictionaries."

 

[Revnak]

Okay then, what previous unused word would you use to describe the Black Panthers to show their liberal values of progression and open to new ideas, but differentiates them from the not liberal enough by our standards liberalism of LBJ and JFK?

Maybe use their own fucking words? They were Revolutionary Black Liberationists. They were Socialists, Communists. You could add on Marxist or Maoist due to their ideological stances but I feel describing them by the name of a white (and honestly pretty racist) dude is off and Maoism is complicated for a modern leftist to understand with zero context.

 

[tstorm823]

I can promise you it is not a " Hopi" thing and tbh I am even more confused after looking it up in the urban dictionary. My grandmother would be looking at all your guys like your nuts.

So "whoopsy" means "oops." Urban dictionary remains a weird place.

 

[tstorm823]

Maybe use their own fucking words? They were Revolutionary Black Liberationists. They were Socialists, Communists. You could add on Marxist or Maoist due to their ideological stances but I feel describing them by the name of a white (and honestly pretty racist) dude is off and Maoism is complicated for a modern leftist to understand with zero context.

I was gonna say Marxist Black Nationalists.

 

[Revnak]

I was born on a reservation, I have NEVER worked as a nurse, and I have never heard the word Whoopsy in my life before now, and no I don't need to " make shit up" as my life is complicated enough as it is to have to add more to it. You haven't been keeping up.

What world do you live in where people walk around saying " whoopsy" ? Is that a thing where you live or something? It isn't here. It is like you have this cartoon version of Texas in your head or something. Sure, my life FEELS like a cartoon but that sounds like something that would be said when someone passed gas or something.
I don't even know what I am reading here:

Urban Dictionary: Whoopsy

Whoopsy: A screaming metrosexual, who uses a female shield ([pretend girlfriend]) to cover up his secret obsession with men. Symptoms include the constant...

www.urbandictionary.com

Medical worker, whatever, fuck, just, I genuinely do not understand the alien reality you perceive. And no, it’s not the fucking Native American elements, that makes perfect sense. It’s all this other weird shit.

 

[lil devils x]

Such innocent (and sudden) misunderstandings of "foreign English words" helps build her case that she doesn't know what words mean, so people will be more sympathetic towards her for not understanding what "liberal" means. She's assassinating her own character in such a way that when she falls, she'll land on a pillow.

It's like a cross between an excuse and a humblebrag. "Oh, excuse me for being multilingual and not knowing the subtleties of your jargon. My people do not believe in dictionaries."

I know what liberal means. Read the DEFINITION of the word above.

 

[lil devils x]

Medical worker, whatever, fuck, just, I genuinely do not understand the alien reality you perceive. And no, it’s not the fucking Native American elements, that makes perfect sense. It’s all this other weird shit.

Doctrine of Medicine = MD, not Nurse, Not "Medical worker" I am a Pediatrician. TYVM. My Degrees are in Immunology and Pediatric Medicine. Liberal Native American candidates are the OPPOSITE of conservatives. Liberal and progressive mean the exact same thing on the reservation BTW. That isn't " weird shit" that is how it has been for a long time now.

 

[Revnak]

Doctrine of Medicine = MD, not Nurse, Not "Medical worker" I am a Pediatrician. TYVM. My Degrees are in Immunology and Pediatric Medicine. Liberal Native American candidates are the OPPOSITE of conservatives. Liberal and progressive mean the exact same thing on the reservation BTW. That isn't " weird shit" that is how it has been for a long time now.

Just stop

 

[SilentPony]

SNIP

Well taking from their list of beliefs we can technically call them Pro-Gun Nationalists. Is that better than liberal?