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The roll of men is to provide for women in whatever way possible so that the women can have children and nurse them. Then it is the job of both parents to care for those children till they are of age to go out on their own. That is how our species works. We have reached a point where we have advanced past needing to strictly follow these things but they exist for a reason.
Lol that’s bullshit
 

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I'm saying that you're, apparently, the only person in the world who can selectively decide what influences you. I'm saying that you are the only one able to determine, with perfect clarity, the exact effect exposure to something will have on you. I'm saying that you're making the mistake of assuming that you are in charge when you are, in fact, nothing but a hodgepodge of cultural messaging and media impressions. That's what I'm saying.
Okay, say those things.
While you're saying those things, please answer my other questions:

"But you are assured that there IS an effect and that it DOES matter, despite not being able to perceive it? Why?

Are you sure you're just not speaking for yourself?
Do you have any evidence that shows why representation is important, other than anecdotes?"

And the point about Mario is invalid because it is made as pure entertainment, with little to no cultural baggage and no subtext. Unlike cuties which was supposed to be a commentary on children and how society encourages them to sexualize themselves.
So representation doesn't matter if something is made as "pure entertainment with little to no cultural baggage and no subtext?"
It only matters when there's cultural baggage or subtext?

And also, since children aren't supposed to be watching Cuties, since it's rated MA, how does representation matter here?
 
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The roll of men is to provide for women in whatever way possible so that the women can have children and nurse them. Then it is the job of both parents to care for those children till they are of age to go out on their own. That is how our species works. We have reached a point where we have advanced past needing to strictly follow these things but they exist for a reason.
Lmao, In my traditional culture " as a species", the women were primarily in control of the economy and conducted the business, the children were raised by the parents, grandparents and community. Children are a part of your life forever, as they are a part of your soul. Women nursed children WHILE they conducted business and business was designed around the family with children placed as being the most important part of life. Both men and women hunted and farmed. Everyone in the community helped with harvest. Work was always evenly distributed. Children didn't work, they instead were given the resources to help them succeed and help them find what they are best at so they can lead a happy and successful life. Parents are parents forever, their job is not over when the child is an adult, it has just begun a new chapter of responsibility as a parent. People choose their " roll" for themselves, there are no " roles" that are male or female only, just jobs that are usually done by one group or another, but that doesn't mean that other's cannot do them as well, in our culture we had people of all sexes doing all roles, except breastfeeding, for obvious reasons, however women openly breast feed while they do other things or just relax if they choose. They normally still just conduct business and trade, sew ect while doing so.
 

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Okay, say those things.
While you're saying those things, please answer my other questions:

"But you are assured that there IS an effect and that it DOES matter, despite not being able to perceive it? Why?

Are you sure you're just not speaking for yourself?
Do you have any evidence that shows why representation is important, other than anecdotes?"


So representation doesn't matter if something is made as "pure entertainment with little to no cultural baggage and no subtext?"
It only matters when there's cultural baggage or subtext?

And also, since children aren't supposed to be watching Cuties, since it's rated MA, how does representation matter here?
I'll recommend Uwe Flick of Cambridged if you're interested in the notion of representation and identity.

Like all art there are actually limits of what our subconscious minds can perceive. Mario is, by choice, very simplistic, so it is hard to for any conclusions that, most likely, wouldn't already exist in the human mind. Though I guess there might be an inherent hope of good prevailing over evil embedded in the "story".

In order to have subtext you require a text, a narrative, and Mario games tend to lack those (I am saying this having played no modern Mario games). To summarize, subtext requires narrative, Mario has limited narrative so the subtext will be limited as well.

Even if the movie isn't meant for kids some are bound to watch it, but besides those, the adults watching it will, excluding evangelist and people who push their own insecurities on others, hopefully reach one of the following conclusions, though hopefully both.

1. Children are exceedingly sexualized and shouldn't be.
2. Children want to achieve something and they want something that is separate from their daily lives and makes them special, not matter the cost.
 

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A disgusting insult more depraved than to call me French.
votre boeuf est vert
Who exactly hates the French more than the English do? Oh wait are you Ricky Bobby now?
 

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I'll recommend Uwe Flick of Cambridged if you're interested in the notion of representation and identity.

Like all art there are actually limits of what our subconscious minds can perceive. Mario is, by choice, very simplistic, so it is hard to for any conclusions that, most likely, wouldn't already exist in the human mind. Though I guess there might be an inherent hope of good prevailing over evil embedded in the "story".

In order to have subtext you require a text, a narrative, and Mario games tend to lack those (I am saying this having played no modern Mario games). To summarize, subtext requires narrative, Mario has limited narrative so the subtext will be limited as well.

Even if the movie isn't meant for kids some are bound to watch it, but besides those, the adults watching it will, excluding evangelist and people who push their own insecurities on others, hopefully reach one of the following conclusions, though hopefully both.

1. Children are exceedingly sexualized and shouldn't be.
2. Children want to achieve something and they want something that is separate from their daily lives and makes them special, not matter the cost.
Okay, well, you're not answering my questions other than to redirect to Uwe Flick, so I guess that's that.
 

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Who exactly hates the French more than the English do? Oh wait are you Ricky Bobby now?
According to the television series "The Good Place" all french go to the bad place(ie Hell). In fact, stealing a baguette is worse than stealing regular bread because stealing a baguette makes you more french.
 
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According to the television series "The Good Place" all french go to the bad place(ie Hell). In fact, stealing a baguette is worse than stealing regular bread because stealing a baguette makes you more french.
Yea, I haven't seen that yet. It takes longer to watch TV series than to catch a movie here and there.
 

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Okay, well, you're not answering my questions other than to redirect to Uwe Flick, so I guess that's that.
So, you aren't satisfied with
"Representation has a subconscious effect and helps inform our notion of self and identity"
But you also don't want to read any of the paper by Uwe Flick that explains why that is?

I'm trying to dumb it down for you.
 

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True, but any series that actually gets into ethics and morality needs a viewer boost these days.
I'll have to look for it and try to get a bit in here and there when I have time. Lately I have had music on more than TV, but I am sure I will have another bout of insomnia soon enough to be able to fit it in. XD
 
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