Prosecutors Request New Bond Conditions For Kyle Rittenhouse In Light Of Him Being Seen With The Proud Boys

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Was the murder done by a member of Proud Boys or one of the more extreme militia groups like boogaloo boys etc?
They literally killed during Charlottesville. They literally killed fucking years ago.
Also, Tiny organizes with all of those groups. Do you know literally anything about the Proud Boys? Anything at all?
 

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Yeah, the latest the media has is that he died due to a blood clot or something
Yes, it just so happened that the blood clot coincidentally occurred when he was physically attacked and beaten. Had that not occurred he definitely would have just fallen over and died on the spot anyway.

What world do you live in?

It's like saying "that guy didn't die from being stabbed, he died from blood loss."
 

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Caused by the attack.
The attack could cause elevated stress and heart rate, which could make a blood clot more likely to kill, and therefore, so would exercise, but I don't think you can punch a blood clot into someone, though I'll defer to the medical experts on that one.

The medical complication of being beaten over the head with a fire extinguisher.

Yes, it just so happened that the blood clot coincidentally occurred when he was physically attacked and beaten. Had that not occurred he definitely would have just fallen over and died on the spot anyway.

What world do you live in?

It's like saying "that guy didn't die from being stabbed, he died from blood loss."
See above.
 

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The attack could cause elevated stress and heart rate, which could make a blood clot more likely to kill, and therefore, so would exercise, but I don't think you can punch a blood clot into someone, though I'll defer to the medical experts on that one.






See above.
God. Yes, a guy whose claim to fame is, uh, finding the link between Pelosi and Ukraine. Cool.
 

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> "Hey, address my argument! What about my argument! Isn't this an ad hominem! Why aren't you addressing my argument?!?!?!"
> Immediately attacks the persons character instead of the argument.

Ain't that hypocritical?

Here's another source: https://www.propublica.org/article/officer-brian-sicknick-capitol
Hmm? Oh, I assumed you realized that was a bit.
Edit: in any case, the propublica piece doesn’t dispute the blood clot being related to the beating, and I don’t think that’s entirely out of the ordinary with blunt force trauma.
 

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Oh, do you usually do bits as a defense mechanism instead of admitting that you were wrong? Okay, noted.
No? I do them as a joke? I... this isn’t complicated dude?
 

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> "Hey, address my argument! What about my argument! Isn't this an ad hominem! Why aren't you addressing my argument?!?!?!"
> Immediately attacks the persons character instead of the argument.

Ain't that hypocritical?

Here's another source: https://www.propublica.org/article/officer-brian-sicknick-capitol
Yes, and you'll notice the difference in rhetoric between the two articles. Your useless piece of shit opinion piece, and the actual facts in the original source he used to twist into a new narrative to serve up to people like you desperately looking only for reasons to excuse the trump cult.

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"This fact complicates the mainstream media’s narrative, which seeks to pin the officer’s death on supposedly violent pro-Trump protesters. The media is trying to forge resentment against Trump and conservative activists in the eyes of Middle America, using the fallen officer as a cause celebre. But even the officer’s family is pleading with the public not to politicize his death as narrative-busting details emerge.
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The mainstream media is pushing the narrative that Trump supporters are domestic terrorists, and of course the FBI and members of the political class including Lindsey Graham are vowing to prosecute the patriotic protesters. "

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"The grieving family of a slain Capitol Police officer says he was a private man whose death shouldn’t be politicized. But now it is forced to make sense of the reality that he is a victim of political violence, his legacy forever linked to an insurrection in the U.S. Capitol.

“He spent his life trying to help other people,” the officer’s eldest brother told ProPublica. “This political climate got my brother killed.”
Brian David Sicknick, 42, died Thursday of injuries he sustained while trying to protect the Capitol from a mob of violent rioters supporting President Donald Trump who rushed the building to disrupt the certification of the presidential election.

While some news reports had said an unnamed officer was in critical condition after being bludgeoned with a fire extinguisher, family members did not have details of his injuries. They say Sicknick had texted them Wednesday night to say that while he had been pepper-sprayed, he was in good spirits. The text arrived hours after a mob’s assault on the Capitol had left more than 50 officers injured and five people dead."
 

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The ProPublica article also says:

“He texted me last night and said, ‘I got pepper-sprayed twice,’ and he was in good shape,” said Ken Sicknick, his brother, as the family drove toward Washington. “Apparently he collapsed in the Capitol and they resuscitated him using CPR.”

But the day after that text exchange, the family got word that Brian Sicknick had a blood clot and had had a stroke; a ventilator was keeping him alive.
Which I guess you missed.
 

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Which means you have no evidence that the one bludgeoned by the fire extinguisher is the one who died
I mean, all the other hits would be contributing factors and all of them should be charged. Not just the fire extinguisher guy.
 

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I mean, all the other hits would be contributing factors and all of them should be charged. Not just the fire extinguisher guy.
Or he was sitting down for too long doing paperwork and developed a blood clot? An autopsy would need to be done to determine if the clot was due to trauma or any other reason.
 

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Which means you have no evidence he wasn't.
Burden of proof lies on the party making the claim.
If you're claiming he died due to fire extinguisher related wounds, it's not on me to disprove it, it's on you to prove it.

And you can't.
 

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Burden of proof lies on the party making the claim.
If you're claiming he died due to fire extinguisher related wounds, it's not on me to disprove it, it's on you to prove it.

And you can't.
I didn't make the claim, the police did.