What evidence? That they were part of a riot with countless other people that weren't Proud Boys? You really want to equate this to something like 9/11?
Canada adds Proud Boys to the terrorist group list
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Ah yes, unarmed terrorists, who planned to overthrow a government without guns.
What a confusing, contradicting corner you've painted yourself into.
I am fairly certain that you can hear that kind of verbal crap in many angry protests which have escalated to riots.
I think it's important not to consider every organisation which is part of (or planned) an angry protest which turns sour to be a terrorist organization. I'd say they are anti-democratic racist scumbags. But unless these types of events start to repeat themselves or we can find evidence their goal is to instil fear into the general population I don't see why we should consider them "terrorists".
Terrorism is defined in the Code of Federal Regulations as “the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives” (28 C.F.R.
That's pulled from a quick google search on the definition of terrorism, established back in 2002-2005 according to the . From the FBI's own site. Seems to fit quite perfectly with what the chucklefucks from Jan. 6 did to me. The fact that they looked really fucking stupid while doing it, doesn't change the fact that they engaged in acts of sedition and terrorism. You don't get to discount the actions of the entire group, based on the fact that some of them were treating it like a frat party, and personal advertisement platform for their businesses. There were people going in there, by violently smashing through windows, while yelling "Kill them!" , actively seeking out specific members of government that conflicted with what THEY thought should happen, apparently with the intent to, AT BEST, hold them against their will and/or try and intimidate them to following THEIR thoughts on what should happen, and at worst, with the intent to fucking KILL THEM.
You don't swarm a building, smash down barricades, break windows, scream out "kill them" and "Hang Mike Pence" bring body armor, physical restraints, and all the other shit we've clearly seen them do, and acknowledge from their own fucking mouths, to just have a reasoned discussion with a party that you disagree with. They were a violent mob, intent on using violence and force, to usurp the political process, and prevent a duly elected official, from being confirmed as duly elected.
That's really not true. Someone already mentioned them, but the IRA often took steps to limit civilian casualties from their attacks.
Proud Boys were part of the same mob as other people in the riot so what makes them terrorists and not the others?
The IRA also had assassinations and car bombs. If Proud Boys crosses that line, then they are terrorists.
Couldn't you apply that to almost all protests which turn violent (considering all protests have a political or social objective)? When people use violence against police officers in a protest against police violence is that also terrorism than? I think the real question is whether or not the organization (or individual) considers the use violence and terror as legitimate method to reach their goals. And this judgement cannot be made based on one angry protest which turned to a riot. Proud boys existed long before and still do now and have yet to repeat such an action.
You don't have to label a group terrorists to dislike them or arrest their members who break the law...
Did you see anywhere in my statement where I said the other people in that mob shouldn't be tried as terrorists and seditionists? No, you didn't. Because I don't think there is any distinction based on what they did. The fact that some of them, might have been easily persuaded by others more directly motivated, doesn't change that what they did, was an act of terrorism and sedition. I think all of them should be charged as such. If they think that's unfair, well, fuck em. They shouldn't storm the fucking capitol and try and take the elected officials hostage and/or kill them because they falsely believe a bullshit theory cooked up by the loser they worship as a savior sent from god. I have little to no patience for shit heads like that these days.
They shouldn't storm the Captiol and try to take the elected officials hostage and/or kill them. At all. For any reason. Right? Violence is never the answer in any circumstance, right?
Or is it only "because they falsely believe a bullshit theory cooked up by the loser they worship as a savior sent from god" that makes their actions wrong?
What is the difference is between a "terrorist" and a "freedom fighter"? Whether or not their cause is just and right?
It ain't 9/11, but it is a fucked up situation! They are terrorists! If you want to be oblivious about it, that's not my problem. It's a truth of truth. The ultimate truth. They ain't as deadly as Al-qaeda, but they're still deadly. Cuz right now I'm done listening to you. You are giving them what they want. Those butt fucks want to say they're not terrorists. They claim they are "Patriots" and "Freedom Fighters". They're more than just pathetic street gang or thugs. they are insecure and pathetic men and women that want to overthrow the country cuz they can't accept people that are different from them. Whether it be race, gender, or religion. They are a bunch of cowardly terrorists. Once again check the evidence. It's all around you. Look at the stuff @ObsidianJones & @XsjadoBlayde posted. We're done here, because I am through listening.
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I do thank you. Everyone remember to ignore the loud fart knocking in the wind. Let's not the same thing happen again like last time.
Read the OP. Officially labeling the group as a terrorist organization doesn't make them more illegal; it makes illegal to help them.
This has got to be joke right? I saw trailer moms, disheveled bums and other people that looked like they couldn't even count to ten in that mob. Trump was too embarassed to even be associated with them. People that lost touch with reality and who are easily manipulated aren't 'terrorists'. In fact most of those people need help. If that was available for poor people in the first place.
The only joke is you choosing not acknowledge what's obvious and in front of you. It's bad comedy.
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If you're going to act tough and say "we're done here, I'm through listening", it kind of devalues your triumphant and dramatic exit if you just come back later. Stick by your convictions and leave when you say you're leaving.
This just in: people over the age of 60 can be terrorists too.
Did you know Bin Laden was a father who enjoyed taking his family range shooting and having picnics?
Osama bin Laden - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
I'm guessing you're not the targeted audience for their terror.