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Apparently, the shooter had a hit list which also included Tim Walz, Ilhan Omar, and Tina Smith. All Minnesota politicians, all Democrats. I also can't help but wonder if Ilhan in particular was also targeted for daring to be a non-WASP politician, as I recall her being told during Trump's first presidency to "return to her own country"...despite being a naturalized citizen.
 

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Apparently, the shooter had a hit list which also included Tim Walz, Ilhan Omar, and Tina Smith. All Minnesota politicians, all Democrats. I also can't help but wonder if Ilhan in particular was also targeted for daring to be a non-WASP politician, as I recall her being told during Trump's first presidency to "return to her own country"...despite being a naturalized citizen.
The list also had abortion doctors and others. The guy's been found to support christian nationalists.
 

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Protest on the sides of the road on my way home again. It's so lame. I almost wanna tell them that the only things that will make the government listen are either unified nationwide strikes or violence. Can't vote their way out because the people they elect will always represent corporate interests, and a protest barely inconveniences anyone. Who gives a shit about some signs? Of course they do it on a Saturday, when they don't have to give anything up.
 

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Protest on the sides of the road on my way home again. It's so lame. I almost wanna tell them that the only things that will make the government listen are either unified nationwide strikes or violence. Can't vote their way out because the people they elect will always represent corporate interests, and a protest barely inconveniences anyone. Who gives a shit about some signs? Of course they do it on a Saturday, when they don't have to give anything up.
Yes, protests generally achieve little. They are better viewed as a tool of self-expression rather than a tool of political change. They may work as a form of advertising to increase awareness, except that where they do inconvenience people, they often appear to antagonise the general public and reduce sympathy for the cause.

In the end, burning stuff down at least sends a statement nobody can miss. Whilst it may not win many friends, it does force the authorities to address something. Should their answer be to oppress protestors into submission, it may severely damage the government. And furthermore, whilst the general public may still not sympathise with protestors, they may so unnerved by violence and disorder that they prefer to make concessions for pragmatic reasons.
 

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Why is protest important?
Peaceful protest is one of the most effective ways for the majority of us to have their voices heard. Protest is the reflection of public feeling underrepresented in politics, especially groups who are overlooked or ignored. To be heard, citizens band together in solidarity and demand their rights are respected.

Protest is a key tactic for humanity to win.

Positive change for human rights would not happen without the right to protest. Many of the great movements of our world’s history used protest and benefited humanity as a whole. Think about the suffragettes, civil rights movement, Indian independence, anti-apartheid in South Africa and Pride.

Movements for change stood firm and courageous in the face of repression like police brutality, imprisonment or worse. Countless rights and freedoms enjoyed today, like women being able to vote and workers able to enjoy weekends, have all been won by protesting against injustice.
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glad to see goth representation. got loads more of these and none of them nor any live streams from on the ground showed violence or aggression from protestors, it was more akin to a chill festival that occasionally had cops shooting and exploding various chemical "less-lethal" munitions into crowd. a safety measure was to avoid running and causing panic/accidents so whenever the police got itchy there was a measured walking pace away from the danger, to wherever the authorities wanted to move them towards
 

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Yes, protests generally achieve little. They are better viewed as a tool of self-expression rather than a tool of political change. They may work as a form of advertising to increase awareness, except that where they do inconvenience people, they often appear to antagonise the general public and reduce sympathy for the cause.
And the pigs understand it's far harder to manufacture consent for state violence against protests that are predominantly white, all-ages, and cross income brackets/class lines. Look at the back-breaking mental gymnastics performed just to justify the "nonviolent" arrest of the Capitol building sit-in protestors yesterday, with the facially-ridiculous claims of them forcing their way past barricades to protest. Capitol pigs literally moved bicycle stands and called it a barricade.

It's a cycle of codependency. Liberals get to walk around with signs on a nice day without actually having done anything, but feel like they made some kind of proud and bold statement. Those in power get to keep doing exactly what it was they intended to do without any actual resistance. Even if conservatives didn't happen to protest for ruling class interest, and cops generally approve of their "ideology", it's a lot harder a sell for cops to start corralling, gassing, shooting them up with "less lethal" munitions, and beating the absolute piss out of them, because they come to protests armed to the teeth.

Look at January 6th, real lead didn't start flying until the Capitol building had been breached and it was the cops' own asses on the line. We all know for fact had that been BLM, US Marshalls and the Guard would have been mowing protestors down by the wave with ma deuces. That's part of the whole reason the Capitol building lawn was redesigned in '01, to turn the grounds into one gigantic kill box from practically any fortified position near or inside the building itself.

Until protestors start coming prepared to defend themselves, nothing's going to be done and it'll have zero impact. If folks want to make comparisons to the civil rights movement (as they should), they should start with the realization MLK was the carrot to Malcolm X's, Seale's, Newton's, Hampton's, among other's, sticks. And even MLK never denounced armed self-defense, and towards the end of his life began to reconsider the power of pacifism alone to effect change.
 
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Well, here we go...
What's great is watching Xitter Republicans start claiming he was really a Democrat and this is proof Dems are violent terrorists. Give it a week and he'll be a deep state antifa plant meant to turn people against the GOP as part of a Jewish plan to overthrow Trump and fill the country with foreigner while weakening the (white) citizenry with vaccines.

I also can't help but wonder if Ilhan in particular was also targeted for daring to be a non-WASP politician
It's weird to point out one name on a hitlist that shares a lot in common with the rest of the list and question if it's about race. If she were a WASP Minnesota politician, do you think she would still be on the list? See Tim Walz and Tina Smith in addition to the people he actually killed to answer that question.
 

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Trump had his poor widdle feelings hurt by protests having far larger attendance than his super-special birthday party, and is now directing ICE to go after all the places he hates.


(ICE) must expand efforts to detain and deport Illegal Aliens in America's largest Cities, such as Los Angeles, Chicago, and New York, where Millions upon Millions of Illegal Aliens reside. These, and other such Cities, are the core of the Democrat Power Center, where they use Illegal Aliens to expand their Voter Base, cheat in Elections, and grow the Welfare State, robbing good paying Jobs and Benefits from Hardworking American Citizens. These Radical Left Democrats are sick of mind, hate our Country, and actually want to destroy our Inner Cities—And they are doing a good job of it!
Meanwhile, a supporter of Trump lost a third of his workforce after someone dropped a dime.


The employer in question initially backed the President's core immigration policy before it landed on his doorstep.

"It's going to be really hard to replace those guys," Vincent Scardina, the owner of the roofing company, told NBC South Florida.

"What happened here? This situation is just totally just blatantly not at all what they said it was," he said.
"My face! Why did the leopards eat my face?!"
 

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Meanwhile, a supporter of Trump lost a third of his workforce after someone dropped a dime.




"My face! Why did the leopards eat my face?!"
I really don't understand what's going on in these people head. What did they think was going to happen? Do they seriously believe that all the millions of illegal immigrant are blood thirsty criminal? They don't understand that if that was the case, the US would just be some sort of crazy mad max society? Don't they ever go out and notice that, gee weez, there's a glaring lack of murder being committed considering that there's several millions of murderer out loose.

I really want some simple factual question on the ballot box that you need to answer before your vote is counted, think like "what is the population of the US" and "what is the crime rate", just to weed out people who live in alternate universe and completely disconnected from reality.

Also, why isn't he in trouble for hiring illegal?
 

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Meanwhile, a supporter of Trump lost a third of his workforce after someone dropped a dime.
Good. I hope he ends up sleeping under a bridge.

Also, why isn't he in trouble for hiring illegal?
Probably because its deemed more a crime to take the job then to give the job. Otherwise business owners might end up being inconvenienced and the US can't have that.
 

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I really don't understand what's going on in these people head. What did they think was going to happen? Do they seriously believe that all the millions of illegal immigrant are blood thirsty criminal? They don't understand that if that was the case, the US would just be some sort of crazy mad max society? Don't they ever go out and notice that, gee weez, there's a glaring lack of murder being committed considering that there's several millions of murderer out loose.
You're talking about people to whom someone having brown skin is "criminal intent". They look outside, see people who don't look exactly like them, and feel threatened.
 

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You're talking about people to whom someone having brown skin is "criminal intent". They look outside, see people who don't look exactly like them, and feel threatened.
But he hired them, presumably he noticed they weren't white at some point. Did he think he lucked out and got the 5 non criminal and the rest are all criminal? Did he not care that they were criminal? Its just so bizarre.
 

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But he hired them, presumably he noticed they weren't white at some point. Did he think he lucked out and got the 5 non criminal and the rest are all criminal? Did he not care that they were criminal? Its just so bizarre.
Oh, no, I don't mean him. Business owners don't actually want Republicans to strictly enforce immigration laws; they just want Republicans to threaten to, so that the business owners can use the threat of "La Migra" to cow workers into not reporting abuse or poor working conditions.

In other news: Trump's new phone is stupid and impossible.



Bonus points for the "5000mAh long life camera". The idiots who get this probably signed up for Patriot Mobile.
 

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Oh, no, I don't mean him. Business owners don't actually want Republicans to strictly enforce immigration laws; they just want Republicans to threaten to, so that the business owners can use the threat of "La Migra" to cow workers into not reporting abuse or poor working conditions.

In other news: Trump's new phone is stupid and impossible.



Bonus points for the "5000mAh long life camera". The idiots who get this probably signed up for Patriot Mobile.
Truly a fucking absurd timeline. If I don’t wake up screaming “Computer, end program!” on a daily basis next year it will be a miracle.
 
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