13-Year Old Girl, Strip Searched ; For what ?
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I have fairly strong painkillers in my backpack. Only idiots share prescription drugs.
This is kinda weird to me, the situation. Our school doesn't give a shit if we have drugs. The teachers actually dubbed one door the 'Smoker's Door' because you can buy drugs and smokes there all you want (and make some good money by just reselling the cigs to Grade 9's
). A strip search would NEVER happen. Ever. They wouldn't even go looking for the drugs on you. They feel that it is your right to do drugs, but their right to kick you out for being high/drunk.
The only time they ever hunt for drugs or booze is on the single school dance of the year.
Edit: People bring knives too for lunches and no one gives a shit. Then again, this is Canada.
This is kinda weird to me, the situation. Our school doesn't give a shit if we have drugs. The teachers actually dubbed one door the 'Smoker's Door' because you can buy drugs and smokes there all you want (and make some good money by just reselling the cigs to Grade 9's
). A strip search would NEVER happen. Ever. They wouldn't even go looking for the drugs on you. They feel that it is your right to do drugs, but their right to kick you out for being high/drunk.The only time they ever hunt for drugs or booze is on the single school dance of the year.
Edit: People bring knives too for lunches and no one gives a shit. Then again, this is Canada.
Hardly.Darth Mobius said:
I'm honest, and I had something to say about it.
It was uncalled for, yes, but it's not the end of the world, nor is it the worst thing that will come.
I guess that doesn't make me decent.
Moving on...
I notice a lot of American hate in this thread, which is kind of sad. We tear down an entire country for the certain few that the media chooses to focus on.
Then again, when you only hear about the bad instances, then you'll form your opinions on this.
It's extremely arrogant, and it makes you no better than anyone. I'm Canadian, and even I don't hate America. There are people in that country that are ashamed to be American, and there are honest, hard working people that get spoken down about because of ever-loved stereotypes.
Please stop basing your opinions of Fox news. It's just taxing to those of us who appreciate level-headed conversation.
Noone here is claiming to arbitrarily hate all members of a particular state or country- that would be racist.Lukirre said:
Speaking for myself, by "America" i was referring to the government, legislation and to a lesser extent the culture and traditions that serve as ambassadors to other cultures and, in america's case, that ultimately lead to incidents like this.
Had it been any other country i would have put the whole thing down to pedophiles in the school system, but as it is i can believe the vice principal believed he had a real neccessity to perform this search (which he did NOT, i would never personally condone a similar reaction) - because as sad as this whole affair is, it's not quite as sad as "13 yr old girl murders 10 of her classmates" or " Overdose Epidemic stems from junior highschool drug ring". That the offending parties thought this was a neccessary course of action, and how that reflects on what AMERICANS think of America is what is truly unsettling in this incident.
If you watched the video they had reason to believe she had drugs with her. The cavity search is a standard search which is done every day and I really don't see why it should be an exception. None of the people on the street complain! Why should a suburban white girl get different treatment? Drugs are a big problem in schools and I could see why they would want to solve their problem in the school.
You know whats real funny? The reason that they did that was because someone pointed the finger at the girl, claiming that she gave it to them. Did it not occur to them that the accuser was...maybe lying? And even if not, a strip-search is far too overboard. They could've easily just have done one of those stupid patdowns, that would find the pills much easier with alot less humiliation.
Its also rather strange that while this story is six years old, it has only just reacently come to light.... Any ideas as to why that is?
Its also rather strange that while this story is six years old, it has only just reacently come to light.... Any ideas as to why that is?
It's because it wasn't done by cops and her parents weren't informed. Also, ibuprofen. Seriously.dragonburner said:
There going to get away with it. It's a school system. They can do whatever the hell they want with no consequences. All they care about is money. That's why sports team members get so many privileges. at my school, I got suspended for being late to class once. 3 football players came to school drunk and didn't even get a detention. There's nothing you can do about it because they won't listen to valid evidence. They control every aspect of your life for 8 hours a day so why not this? They tell you when to walk, when to talk, where to go, when to shit, when to eat, when to stand, when to come, when to leave. I saw a kid get in trouble for smoking at a bus stop that was on the property line of a person's house. They don't own that property, the homeowners do. It is the police's job to punish them, not the school. Our textbooks were from 1991. But the football team gets new uniforms every year. All public schools give a shit about is controlling you and getting money.
Do the police call every 20 year old hookers mom when they pick her up on the streets. Honestly, if it was a boy with a knife or a black kid I would suspect a different reaction from people reading the story.orannis62 said:
Amazingly fucked up. Yet, not surprising given the times. Small organisations that think they can do whatever they wish are out there. The people involved may have no idea what the law actually says, but are convinced that due to, whatever stupid rules they have come up with, that whatever they wish is valid. "Of course we can strip-search a child" they will say, "they might have drugs". If you have a problem with them, what they do, the covering begins. At least higher authorities are examining it, because as SyphonX says, you would expect it from seriously totalitarian countries, and Singapore.
I call the above organisations that make their own rules and laws, "little baronies". Small spheres of control (schools, colleges, clubs) staffed by people who think they know what they are doing, and can do what they wish.
I call the above organisations that make their own rules and laws, "little baronies". Small spheres of control (schools, colleges, clubs) staffed by people who think they know what they are doing, and can do what they wish.
well we all know that obama idolizes mussolini seeing as he's doing most of what he did. it wouldnt suprise me if the school won. this country is going down the shitter really fast.
No, they don't call a 20 year old hooker's mother, but they don't have to because she isn't a minor. For the kid with a knife thing, yeah, we would look at it differently, since a knife can actually do damage. Ibuprofen can't, not really at least. Even then though, a strip search would still be completely excessive. As for the black kid thing, no, we would no look at it differently.dragonburner said:
Ummm...I disagree? *hides*SyphonX said:
I'm pretty sure no person in their right mind would authorize/conduct a strip search of ANY individual without just cause. Somehow I think there are details everybody is missing, such as the fact that another person, caught with a few of the pills, said they got them from the girl. That is drug dealing, my friends. So yes, I think they had just cause to at least search, strip search may have been a bit far but perhaps it was necessary. The fact that this is going to the Supreme Court IS sickening, but for the opposite reason you state. The girl has next to nothing for a case. The fact that it's gotten to the top judicial institution astounds me.
But what proof did the school have? Word of mouth? The girl had nothing found on her. I really think the school should have asked more and tried to find more information before they did the strip search. I don't think one accusation with no evidence is a good basis to perform a strip search.Imat said:
Though what is interesting is it happened like 5 years ago but now its news....only cause it reached the Supreme Court. >.>
I hope that's how you see other people as thinking, not how you think yourself.dragonburner said:
Anyway what do the police have to do with this, they were never involved.
If I was in the place of the teachers I would put her and the kid who made the claim in seperate rooms. Then call the parents and search the bags/desk/locker of both the kids, if I found something I would call the police. If the school had more than somebodys word to go on it still doesn't give them the right to do what they did, even more so that the person never did anything wrong.
I would not strip search a young girl then ignore the event.
Call me a strange thinker but what with teachers getting arrested for child porn I don't think they are the kind of people to give the green light to strip naked kids whenever they want.
Oh yeah thats right somebody who did have drugs was saying it was her, and clearly that person wouldn't lie to get out of trouble.
