14 year old shoots himself in the head during school

[Owen Robertson]

Suicide is selfish, cowardly, and lazy.
A) More often than not, someone does care about you and you just fucked their life up
B) You have plethora of options for getting rid of the problem and/or coping with its effects. You took the easy way out instead, you lazy bastard.

If you feel that's insensitive, you're correct. I've no time for sensitivity. There's sense to be driven into the skulls of the masses, whether they like it or not.

Captain Pretentious AWAY!!!

EDIT - Much truth is said in jest.

 

[Imper1um]

Maybe he just watched "The Happening" and its happening in real life. XD

No, but seriously, the kid probably was bullied and he wanted to end his life in front of everyone to make a point for attention.

 

[GeneralFungi]

This could have been an accident or it could've been the prelude to something worse had he not been shot. We don't know why the gun was there and in his hands.

It's fairly difficult to accidentally shoot yourself with a gun, especially in the head...

If that were only true...

Sorry, it's just that people have accidentally shot others and themselves before. I'm not making an argument for the case being true HERE, but it is true in life. It's a possibility.

Well, technically just about anything you can imagine IS possible. However, there are very few self-inflicted accidental headshots (there are far, far more cases of people shooting themselves in the foot, hand, arm, and the like) that were not the result of pure stupidity in its finest, like pulling the trigger 'because I thought it wasn't loaded.'

Now, if he were a really little kid who somehow got ahold of a gun, I would see more of a possibility of this, but a 14 year old? That's just not probable at all, because the only reasoning I can see behind bringing a gun to school when they're clearly and absolutely banned from school would be shooting people, and if you're not intending on shooting yourself, yet manage to point the barrel at your head...well damn.

The only way I could see that being the case would be if it was in his backpack, he reached back, fumbled with the trigger while pulling it out...still would be next to impossible to do that way, because of the amount of force needed to depress most triggers-it's not something that's easy to do accidentally at all, coupled with the fact he'd need to be pulling the gun out with the barrel towards his head, which would make pulling the trigger much harder, and would make just pulling the gun out harder in the first place....

I just don't see that happening.

That doesn't rule out the possibility of him threatening another student before realizing the grave consequences of such a thing. But it's still tragic that this happened, no matter the circumstances.

 

[Gordon_4_v1legacy]

inb4 arguments on gun regulation.

Original posters can't "inb4".

And there is no need to talk about regulation because he obtained the gun illegally anyway. It's not like a 14 year old can enter a gun shop and buy one.

In this case I think we'd have a case of 'dishonest' aquisition. His parent's may have legally owned the firearm but he took it from them without their knoweldge.

Which could happen in any country independently of gun laws.

People don't understand that here in Europe guns are *almost* a privilege and I feel like guns will be even more restricted. This makes us defenseless to criminals who acquire any guns they want. I don't want the same to happen to the US, illegal guns would flood the black market.

In Sweden a woman was convicted to 6 months in jail for carrying pepper spray, a drug dealer got 2 months for possessing a full auto sub-machine gun because "drug dealing was a dangerous activity". The government obviously hushed the situation.


Restricting guns only results in protecting criminals.

Don't misunderstand me, I agree with pretty much what you've said: this should not be a legislative issue in terms of firearm ownership, its a responsible ownership issue. Unless the parents trusted the lad to have access to the locked cabinet/safe the pistol was stored in (which is another debate in itself), its owner was lax in securing the weapon. Would you agree?

 

[Hypno-Sheep]

geez, and i thought the food at my school was bad.

 

[Raesvelg]

/sigh...

Again with the gun thing. Like guns are the only way to commit suicide.

You do realize that the United States has like half the suicide rate of Japan, where guns are frighteningly illegal, right?

For that matter, the US is lower than South Korea, Switzerland, France, Ireland, Finland, Canada, Sweden, Iceland, Norway, Denmark, New Zealand, Hong Kong, and about 30 other countries to boot.

The ultimate truth of the matter is that if someone wants to kill themselves, they'll accomplish it. The gun might make it more convenient, or dramatic, but it doesn't change the outcome.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

What the hell is wrong with kids these days? They are all whiny little shits. Suicide, really? That's the coward's way out. Still better than shooting a bunch of people though. Something has got to be terribly wrong with the educational system for things like these to happen so often that I'm no longer surprised.

 

[MintsMan]

i saw the title and thought AMERICA lo and behold it was.

never happens in the civilized country i live in cause we aren't a bunch of dumbshits wit a government dumb enough to follow a dated law that lets any idiot get hold of a gun.

Hey bro. Keep trolling from your "civilized" Australia (which is 5 places behind America in suicide rates, for the record).

OT: *Sigh. Kids. Next thing you know people will be getting all "ZOMG HE WAS BULLIED IT'S THEIR FAULT WE NEED TO PROTECT OUR CHILDREN FROM THE EVIL BULLIES", unless they just skip straight to blaming video games somehow.

He's AUSTRALIAN? Wow, I thought our education was at least better than THAT... Some people never fail to disappoint.
OT: The moment I saw the title, I KNEW that video games will be blamed for this.
And anyway I was 12 when I was in grade 8. Again, I'm not too sure on America's schooling system, but still...

 

[Viral_Lola]

And I thought New Hampshire seemed like such a happy place. Wonder if someone's going to write a grunge song about it.

Somebody has. Pearl Jam?s Jeremy.

Personally, I hope he gets better. I wonder what made him do it though.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

What the hell is wrong with kids these days? They are all whiny little shits. Suicide, really? That's the coward's way out. Still better than shooting a bunch of people though. Something has got to be terribly wrong with the educational system for things like these to happen so often that I'm no longer surprised.

This is the flip side to the argument and I'm actually very against it. If suicide is so cowardly, why don't you play a few rounds of russian roulette and prove it, lord bravery?

Because you "just don't want to"? Well why don't you want to?

Ah, see? Suddenly its a little more scary isn't it? Suicide is actually pretty hard to do and most people have to be in a broken mental state to pull it off properly. The internet tends to forget details like that.

You didn't think that through. Yes it's hard to do when you're not miserable and depressive. It's called cowards way out because it's the easiest thing to do when you think there's no hope. People who don't know how to deal with their problems take their own lives instead, without any regard to those around them who might need them. If I were a miserable depressive bastard the easiest thing would be to off myself.

 

[ElPatron]

Don't misunderstand me, I agree with pretty much what you've said: this should not be a legislative issue in terms of firearm ownership, its a responsible ownership issue. Unless the parents trusted the lad to have access to the locked cabinet/safe the pistol was stored in (which is another debate in itself), its owner was lax in securing the weapon. Would you agree?

I don't understand why would someone with a child leave guns and ammunition outside a safe during the day. I don't agree with obligatory safes but if the kid had not been educated in the operation of a firearm why leave it out?

 

[Sansha]

What kind of educational facilities are we providing our children if they'd rather do this than see out the rest of the day there?

 

[twohundredpercent]

Somebody has. Pearl Jam?s Jeremy.

Personally, I hope he gets better. I wonder what made him do it though.

Yes they have. It's called a reference.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

Arguing with your mom/girlfriend/spouse, asking for help with bullies.

Swiping a gun, getting it past school security, getting the balls to put it up to your head and having the bullet pass through your very brain.

Choose the more difficult scenario.

How about ignoring all that and trying to live your life like the rest of the kids? That was obviously more difficult for this kid. Standing up to the bullies was more difficult. When you think that you have nothing to live for the easiest thing is not to live anymore.

And it's not about the procedure of getting the gun past the security. That has nothing to do with anything. It's about the decision to take your own life. It's easier than doing something to improve your life. You can try to spin it all you want but it won't change the fact that suicide is the cowards way out of misery.

 

[Zack Alklazaris]

In another article it says quote "He?s an avid hunter - like his name." So it may very well be his own gun.
They also say he is in critical condition.

Also, he shot himself, not other people. While traumatic I have no hatred towards him. In the ways one can rightfully "express their inner feels" through bringing a gun to school he did it right.

I have also looked at his picture, he is a stereotypical heavy weight with the mushy face. I can easily see him getting picked on to the point of wanting to kill himself. This is just another unfortunate reality of the crap you go through in high school and the bullies at worse get sent home. While they should start getting fines and spending nights in jail. Like I would if I went up to a random person on the street and treated them like some kids get treated in school.

 

[Tayh]

Maybe his father shot up his laptop at home and, using the methods his father taught him, he took out his frustrations the only way he knew: by putting a bullet into the issue.