14 year old shoots himself in the head during school

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Frankster

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Well reading most of the comments of this thread has genuinely made me sad.

I know I shouldn't be surprised, but I thought the escapist community at least tried to be more intelligent and compassionate then other sites (not that i ever really believed this i guess, the net for all its good has a cynical effect on ppl)

Instead all the same old crap about natural selection (that stopped applying to the majority of us long ago btw, now we have social selection which is completely different), suicide being the cowards way out and so forth.

Ah well.
 

Darth_Dude

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The real question is, how the hell did a 14 year old get a hold of a gun!? jesus Christ, do American's just give them out free to everyone?!
 

Mudze

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Darth_Dude said:
The real question is, how the hell did a 14 year old get a hold of a gun!? jesus Christ, do American's just give them out free to everyone?!
Oh come on, 14 isn't that bad. Frankly, the real question here is, what kind of a f***-off society would raise someone that thinks it's acceptable to violently discharge their brain from their skulls in front of 70 or so children?

Another question is "Why do we care?"

Kid's dead already. Let the family, friends and school deal with the aftermath, everyone else can deal with people who actually still have problems.
 

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Darth_Dude said:
The real question is, how the hell did a 14 year old get a hold of a gun!? jesus Christ, do American's just give them out free to everyone?!
Not everyone. Just US citizens.

See, we're trying to get this thing going where we have some stupid people do things, and let the ignorant foreigners judge our entire country, all 313,000,000(ish) of us, based on the few things they hear/read about.

This also helps those living in the absolutely perfect countries, such as yours, to feel better about who they are, where they live, and who they live around.

Is it working?
 

Whodat

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The fact that this happened is horrible, but the fact he survived?! I guess I'm glad he did, but having to live with that over his head and all those kids having to see it. It's just a damn shame when people do stuff like this, especially when they're this young.
 

Don Savik

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Mortai Gravesend said:
Mudze said:
Frankly, the real question here is, what kind of a f***-off society would raise someone that thinks it's acceptable to violently discharge their brain from their skulls in front of 70 or so children?
Yes, because when people are suicidal they are certainly acting on what society teaches them and are not at all acting in a manner that is desperate and likely to not care about such things.
Bravo to you good sir. I'm going through a bit of depression right now and I can see the side of humanity that would make a person think that this is the only way out. People like that are truly hurting, they aren't just "pussys who can't handle life". I hate this mentality that some people have. Its so goddam insensitive.
 

Mudze

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I'm not being unsympathetic. I'm saying that one life, now ended, is not as important as potential mental and emotional trauma on 70 lives.

While I can certainly see why people would consider killing themselves, having worked with suicidal people, and experiencing suicidal thoughts at some points during my life, I can not understand why anyone that is not sociopathic (yeah, yeah, ASPD, bugger off) would consider doing it in public.
 

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ravenshrike said:
katsabas said:
the kid survived a gunshot. TO THE HEAD.
Almost certainly because he was a dumbass who is epic fail at basic biology. Betcha the idiot(let's face it, if you manage not to kill yourself with a gunshot to the head you're either pretty fucking stupid or really, really lucky, good or bad) put the barrel under his chin and had it angled forward when he pulled the trigger.
Many people have survived taking a 9mm bullet straight through the brain case. The path of destruction from the bullet itself doesn't kill, the subsequent swelling however does. Though the bullet does cause major brain damage, so does a lobotomy.
 

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I'm sure that bullying was the underlying reason, but why are people so receptive to it? I mean, in high school I wasn't the skinniest kid in school, and not tall at all. And yes, some of the kids in grades higher than me tried to bully me. But I was one of those guys who looked them square in the face and pulled a whole "come at me bro" scene and that was that.

Case in point, I made friends with some of the seniors my freshman year (no I didn't play sports or join a club, I was just that kid who made friends everywhere he went) When a group of preps tried to toss me into a dumpster it was broken up by a few of them that were like "no this guy's cool" and the guy who wanted to toss me into the trash got himself tossed because he wouldn't cut it out.

Not once did I ever consider "hey, I'm going to shoot myself because you picked on me boo hoo" And I sadly cannot show any sympathy for those who do. I know he deserves it, and needs it, but I can't.
 

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I realy don't think you guys should guess why he killed himself. He probobly had his reasons, though I disagree with his course of action the least YOU could do is honor him and don't make his death a joke or an entertainment source.
 

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I'm sickened.

I'm sickened by the deep psychological torture this poor sod must have gone through. I'm sickened by the fact that, faced with such impenetrable obstacles, he made a conscious decision to kill himself. I'm sickened by the act. It's not something that any 14 year-old should even SEE, let alone do to themselves. If this is an elementary school then there'll be little kids who saw that...how is that sight going to impact on them in their future?

Finally, I'm sickened by the responses within this thread. I don't mean the folks who are giving legitimate suggestions and condolences...you guys are awesome, keep it up. I speak of the trolls, the imbeciles and the downright SCUM that are posting flame bait responses and commentary to the tone of "I don't even care" and/or "Stupid Americans with their stupid gun laws."

Yes, the laws are silly (and I'm not just saying that because I'm British and might be planning to bring the US back into the Empire :) ). Ease of access is a contributing factor, no doubt, but you're looking at it all wrong. It's not a matter of what weapon was used to attempt the act, it's a matter of the psychological damage that led up to that boy's decision to end his young life. Do you seriously think he'd stop in his tracks if guns weren't available? There are many ways to kill yourself, and he would have gone along with one or more of them in the end.

My heart goes out to him, really. I hope he can get some help and go on to live a happy and fulfilling life. No one should have to kill themselves, especially not the young.
 

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SmegInThePants said:
he was only 14 so it really could have been an accident, 14 year olds can do stupid things. Adults some times accidentally discharge fire-arms, a 14 year old trying to show off to his peers easily could. And at that age anyone else involved is unlikely to 'come clean'.

Something doesn't seem right about a 14 year old in elementary either, i think some fact or other could be wrong in the story.

I'm sure more details will come to light as time goes on. its a lot of supposition for now.
Yeah...no. No kid brings a gun to school to show off to his friends. Knives? Possible, if they're dumb enough or in a gang. But the only reason anyone would bring a gun to school for is shooting themselves, someone around them, or both. And honestly, have you handled a gun? Pretty much the first thing people learn about them is to not have anything looking down the barrel that is not safe to shoot at.