I don't always agree with TJ, but I think that he has made good points in the past and this video mostly the last four minutes or so is one such example, I think.DoPo said:
15 year old girl kills herself after persistent bullying
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I can't get past him suggesting that prosecuting or punishing bullying will cause MORE suicides because teens will use it as a form of revenge against their bullies. I mean, I've heard some slippery slopes before, but that might be the slipperiest slope I've ever seen anyone go sliding down. I think my mouth actually opened wide, in a cartoon double take.wookiee777 said:
I'd personally prefer it he doesn't explain himself and just leaves as I doubt you'll hear anything but shit come out of his mouth.NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Unless you somehow didn't realize that this was a small child (twelve when tricked into flashing, fifteen at the time of death) who made a tiny mistake in her life, only to get constantly blackmailed, deceived, shunned by everyone and beaten for years, you're a disgusting human being.Aaron Sylvester said:
Rather dramatically done video, but I can't help but shed a tear for her story. I don't know her or every single detail of her story, it's clear she made some terrible choices, but she looks like a beautiful girl lost her life because of a combination of bad decisions on her part and a collection of putrid waste masquerading as human beings.
If you ask me, I'm betting that internet justice is on the way if this story has been in circulation. You can count on the assholes who have been stalking her facebook telling her to die will have their identities and information revealed very shortly. That's when the real fireworks begin and I'll just sit back and watch with a bag of popcorn at the ready.
Ethically, I know it will probably lead to more cyber bulling of the bullies and thus thinking this way makes me just as bad as they are. Whatever. I've had it with this shit. These kids think they can do anything without any consequences, like doing this shit over the internet makes them invulnerable.
I don't care if it's "wrong". All I want is a single moment where they are so hated, where things get so bad for them... that they understand what they did and the full impact of their fucking actions and what it's like when those same actions are enacted upon them.
My utter fury over this is probably overriding my logic and reason, I don't care. I'm mad as hell. This shit happens far too often, and I've had enough. I want the full fury of the internet unleashed on these bastards![HEADING=1]RIGHTEOUS FUCKING ANGER![/HEADING]
If you ask me, I'm betting that internet justice is on the way if this story has been in circulation. You can count on the assholes who have been stalking her facebook telling her to die will have their identities and information revealed very shortly. That's when the real fireworks begin and I'll just sit back and watch with a bag of popcorn at the ready.
Ethically, I know it will probably lead to more cyber bulling of the bullies and thus thinking this way makes me just as bad as they are. Whatever. I've had it with this shit. These kids think they can do anything without any consequences, like doing this shit over the internet makes them invulnerable.
I don't care if it's "wrong". All I want is a single moment where they are so hated, where things get so bad for them... that they understand what they did and the full impact of their fucking actions and what it's like when those same actions are enacted upon them.
My utter fury over this is probably overriding my logic and reason, I don't care. I'm mad as hell. This shit happens far too often, and I've had enough. I want the full fury of the internet unleashed on these bastards![HEADING=1]RIGHTEOUS FUCKING ANGER![/HEADING]
You don't put in the internet something that might bite you in the arse in the future. Ignorance is not an excuse. Suicide is the easy way out.
I'm sorry for the parents. Since:
I'm sorry for the parents. Since:
You have the guy's contact details. Even if it were a fake account you could have done some digging first.
You know, as much as I want to say "revenge isn't justice and that won't solve anything" right now, I'd probably find myself watching stuff unfold on the front row alongside you. So against my better judegment, I will say: You better have an extra bag of popcorn ready. I'll bring something to drink.TheDrunkNinja said:
I felt bad, but then the melodramatic video made me feel less bad. She handled the whole situation poorly, but then again she was a "dumb" teenager, so I can't blame her entirely for bad judgement. That said, I'm not going to pretend like she had no control over the choices she made here.
The people who bullied her are obviously assholes who deserve some form of retribution. It's just unfortunate that it took something like suicide to get people to notice. Good job, go after her bullies, that will do a lot of good now that she's already offed herself.
The people who bullied her are obviously assholes who deserve some form of retribution. It's just unfortunate that it took something like suicide to get people to notice. Good job, go after her bullies, that will do a lot of good now that she's already offed herself.
Isn't there just some DICK in the friggin' audience who comes out with "She asked for it" or "she should have known the consequences of her actions" or my Fav........."She knew what she was doing at the time"!!! What is wrong with your Morons.................she was in Grade 7 for God sakes with peer pressure 100 times when I or most other adults were in school. Doing that stuff today with the media influence and just learning about the "Boy" thing at that age carries the same weight in their minds as the stupid crap that we used to do!! But to have the backwards attitude of what she shouldn't have done and not look at the endless persecution by the losers who drove her to that state proves that those people are just as bad. So shame on those that blame Amanda for the endless torture from others..................look closely in the mirror and see the ugliness!!!!!!
Peace
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Man, this is depressing. It's a shame this sort of thing happens and no one's there to help...
And my folks wonder why I prefer fiction...
And my folks wonder why I prefer fiction...
...Got room for one more?SpaceBat said:
Sad, to be sure.
But the world keeps on turning.
We'll boo-hoo for this photogenic bullying victim (whilst a bunch of uggos are hanging themselves without any media attention) for a short while.
Then we'll forget about her.
Then another photogenic bullying victim will come along and slash his/her wrists and we'll start it all over again.
This is not news. This has been happening for a long, long time.
You could fill a book with the names of kids who have killed themselves, or come close to it, because of bullying.
We always say we want to change things. But it never happens.
But the world keeps on turning.
We'll boo-hoo for this photogenic bullying victim (whilst a bunch of uggos are hanging themselves without any media attention) for a short while.
Then we'll forget about her.
Then another photogenic bullying victim will come along and slash his/her wrists and we'll start it all over again.
This is not news. This has been happening for a long, long time.
You could fill a book with the names of kids who have killed themselves, or come close to it, because of bullying.
We always say we want to change things. But it never happens.
Bring booze! I'll get nachos.SpaceBat said:
OT: I uhhh... I'm really too much of a stoic to get all up in arms about this. I get where everyone's coming from, but it just all sounds off to me. It's definitely a larger problem than a faceless goon with the word "BULLYING" stamped on its forehead. I can think of numerous ways this could have been handled better and it's only a shame none of these worked out.
Part of me wants to argue that even most 12 year old kids would most likely understand why flashing in public is something they might not want to do (which is essentially the same thing as posting an image on the web). However, the fact that she would have been "safe" in her home while on her computer hid that reality from her, and as the previous poster seems to have implied she was 12. Older people make dumber mistakes than this all the time, and this girl did not deserve what she went through in any way, shape, or form.BloatedGuppy said:
Watching the video she made makes me angry.
Not at her but at all those people who harassed her for so long and could not fucking drop it. God, halfway through I was thinking about how much I would want to rip their faces off.
That poor girl.
Nobody deserved what she went through.
Not at her but at all those people who harassed her for so long and could not fucking drop it. God, halfway through I was thinking about how much I would want to rip their faces off.
That poor girl.
Nobody deserved what she went through.
Not always. People in most westernized countries are conditioned to be reactionary, but, and this will sound glib considering this story but someone wisely said that "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure". It's not really a fact of life, it's a societal and personal flaw.corvuscorrax said:
Dude, that is exactly what i was thinking. 12 years old or not, she should have known that flashing was a pretty bad idea. It is true though, many kids make stupid mistakes. I know i've made quite a few. But they were all, y'know...logical kid mistakes. Flashing your chest to a stranger on the internet though, i can't honestly vouch for that. I don't know any kid who would do that.an874 said:
I do feel sympathy for the girl, as a lot of people do. But i honestly do see how this was self imposed. Of course the parents should have done more. I stll think they should have contacted the authorities. Even if the guy was using a fact name and stuf fthey could have tracked the IP address and had this sorted out easily.
It's tragic that this girl died. It's tragic when anyone dies. When someone dies, someone will always mourn. But all the while people are saying "Bullying is the problem" "Let's put an end to bullying". I agree with this wholeheartedly but i think people just might be missing the point entirely. Someone is to blame of course but perhaps maybe this is a time for some personal responsibility? For the Girl, mostly.
How can you even believe that?mlbslugger06 said:
The bullies ARE responsible. They became responsible when they took advantage of her naivety. When they blackmailed her. When they beat her. When they made her daily life an unbearable misery.
They may not have killed her directly, but they sure as hell are to blame for her death.
I also want to know if that POS who was responsible for the blackmail and distribution of images, is going to be arrested. She was a minor at the time.