15yo forced her and her 7yo sister to be gangraped for cash

[13thforswarn]

If you want to get sexed yourself, go ahead, get impregnated and contract STDs. But dragging your 7 YEAR OLD SISTER into the rape fest is a whole different matter. That 15 y/o is f***ed in the head. She makes me sick.I wonder what her parents/sister/friends/rapists think of her now.

 

[Booze Zombie]

Oh, world... you never surprise me anymore.
Until the day when a Nazi grandma with an M60 shoots up a liquor store, then I shall be surprised.

But seriously, I can't help but feel this is quite unavoidable in a capitalistic society, you make people value money and some of them want it so bad they'll do almost anything for it, as this story proves.

 

[Quiet Stranger]

I think the 15 year old had something happen in her life that made her ideas of 'inappropriate' skewed (I'm not saying she got raped as a kid, but her morals can't just be like that naturally) so she saw the raping as 'do it once and get it over with' not taking into account her sister's ideals/innocence.

Try to keep this discussion worthy instead of "kill da *****" because mods will lock it otherwise.

OMG KILL DA *****! (sarcasm)

But as to what other people said, throw them away, thats just wrong forcing your own little sister into getting raped

 

[diddykonger]

I really have no words to describe my disgust I have for the 15yr girl, let alone the boys she had. This act that the 15yr committed towards her 7yr old sister is below human and deserves, and the boys, anything if not everything that is coming their way as punishment.

 

[Spoonius]

If the identities of the men responsible are ever revealed to the public, they'll never sleep soundly again. If they end up going to gaol too, well... they're going to end up as packed meat.

What could possibly be going through your mind at the time that would see you rape and threaten a seven-year-old without any objections whatsoever? Drugs? Alcohol? Peer pressure? Seriously, what? Knowing that she's somebody's daughter, that she's terrified, that she's cooperating because of death threats...

Apart from the psychological trauma, the little girl must have been in sheer agony the whole fucking time. The body of a seven-year-old isn't developed enough to receive a single fully-grown man, much less half a dozen at once.

I personally hope the fifteen-year-old sister is disowned, and that everybody involved is prosecuted to the utmost extent of the law (whatever that entails in the US) and registered as sex offenders for life. Anonmity should NOT be granted during any of the proceedings, the exception to which should be that of the sister (hear me out; if her identity is revealed, so is the little girl's by association).

Bloody hell, this makes me wild. If I was that little girl's father, I'd feel like taking a a fucking chainsaw to the bastards responsible. And I would too, regardless of the consequences.

 

[Koeryn]

Not particularly surprising, Jersey's not the best place in the world.

Should probably just glass it and not bother rebuilding.

 

[Chaos Bringer]

That's disgusting! How in the hell can someone do that? That's so damn horrible.

 

[Superfly CJ]

Oh, world... you never surprise me anymore.
Until the day when a Nazi grandma with an M60 shoots up a liquor store, then I shall be surprised.

But seriously, I can't help but feel this is quite unavoidable in a capitalistic society, you make people value money and some of them want it so bad they'll do almost anything for it, as this story proves.

I hardly think capitalism is to blame- there'll always be people who do this sort of thing, it's the nature of the beast. Without money, people would just be murdering and raping for respect, or pleasure. It'll remain unavoidable as long as we retain free will.

Wow............. humans really keep on sinking lower and lower. I really wished I hadn't read this article

Considering much worse probably happened on a daily basis pre-1000AD, I'd say humans are positively on the rise in the grand scheme of things. At least now the vast majority have enough education to realise this sort of thing is wrong.

As terrible as this all is, it's a very select case, around ten people out of six billion. Lets not let a vocal minority ruin things for the rest of us.

 

[Hawkeye16]

Oh I get it, this is all one big april fools joke right? You had me going there for a second you prankster you!

 

[FROGGEman2]

You know what I think, your education system needs a fucking overhawl if a 15 year old girl and 12-15 guys thought this was a good idea.

Wait

overhawl

I hope this is a joke.

OT: Shit. Holy shit.

What? That is crazy! Considering the amount of trouble we got in when a video of a bunch of year sevens giving head got on Youtube, I can't even begin to imagine the kind of shit they're going to get.

 

[Superfly CJ]

I personally hope the fifteen-year-old sister is disowned, and that everybody involved is prosecuted to the utmost extent of the law (whatever that entails in the US) and registered as sex offenders for life. Anonmity should NOT be granted during any of the proceedings, the exception to which should be that of the sister (hear me out; if her identity is revealed, so is the little girl's by association).

...and what good will disowning her do? She needs to be pointed in the right direction, not forced further down the wrong one. What this girl and these men need is a change of perspective and a second chance.

As for anonymity not being granted? What will that achieve? It's thinking like that that breeds viscious cycles of violence and hatred. Will it honestly make things okay if these offenders are beaten to death under mob rule?

The incident has already happened, and as such, no more pain or suffering needs to be experienced. Rehabilitation would be infinitely more productive and humane than unnecessary punishment.

 

[Hawkeye16]

Intil I see some sources cited Im declaring this an april fools joke.

 

[Rosen2012]

Intil I see some sources cited Im declaring this an april fools joke.

Here you go buddy.

http://www.truecrimereport.com/2010/03/15-year-old_girl_offers_7-year.php

You can also google it. That's how I found it.

 

[Hawkeye16]

Intil I see some sources cited Im declaring this an april fools joke.

Here you go buddy.

http://www.truecrimereport.com/2010/03/15-year-old_girl_offers_7-year.php

You can also google it. That's how I found it.

I was trying to simply deny this ever happened in order to sleep tonight, thanks for giving me irrivutable proof, I hate you.

 

[UnanimouslyAnonymous]

I'm not sure about over there in the states, but as a British citizen, I would say all this talk of 'jail them for life and let them burn in hell and die and then burn some more etc.' is a tad regressive.

As far as the justice system is concerned, reformation should always be placed far beyond punishment. I mean, what these men, and this girl, did, is terrible, but throwing away the key accomplishes nothing.

Take them all to jail, and let them free when it can be proven that they are no longer a danger to themselves and those around them- simple as. One life has already been 'ruined', why ruin any more? People can change, and people will change. They'll have to live with their mistakes and the guilt that accompanies those mistakes for a lifetime- get the reformation part right, and that should be 'punishment' enough.

I suppose that is acceptable at times, maybe even in this case. But lets say that they find some of the men at this party are serial pedophiles? That they rape children on a regular biases?

I live in Florida, and for whatever reason, plenty of pedos who get caught and 'reformed' in other states move down here and just start up again. Can I still feel that they should be taken out for public execution?

That's where the problems start to show. It's a case of knowing when someone has been reformed and whether to let them go or not. There's also the occasional case where someone cannot be changed, whether it be due to a mental condition or simply an extreme defecit of morals.

Yet it still beats practically condemning someone to death- all the people involved in this case should at least be given the chance to start again. In my opinion, if the fifteen year old were to go to prison and be released a week later, truly reformed and remorseful, then all the better.

Hell, if I were to be murdered tommorrow, and my murderer released from jail ten weeks later, genuinely guilty and reintegrated into society, I'd harbour no grudges (not least because i'd be dead)- i'd rather my death be met with a 'birth' (or rebirth, rather), than another arbitrary death (as would be the case with capital punishment).

If it weren't so tired and cliched, this would be the optimal time to give that Gandhi quote.

While I agree with you to an extent, I think it depends on the crime and the context in which it was done. A crack head who robs a few liquor stores to get drug money deserves a chance to clean up and rejoin society, but the guys at this "party" deserve no such thing. IMHO anyone who does something this unspeakable has waived any rights a human being is entitled to.

 

[Dr. wonderful]

Man, poor 7 year old little sister, forced to be gang raped for money by her older sister....
What a wonderful world we live in.

Ding ding ding!

You said the magic word!

 

[Rosen2012]

Intil I see some sources cited Im declaring this an april fools joke.

Here you go buddy.

http://www.truecrimereport.com/2010/03/15-year-old_girl_offers_7-year.php

You can also google it. That's how I found it.

I was trying to simply deny this ever happened in order to sleep tonight, thanks for giving me irrivutable proof, I hate you.

Always happy to oblige.

 

[Superfly CJ]

While I agree with you to an extent, I think it depends on the crime and the context in which it was done. A crack head who robs a few liquor stores to get drug money deserves a chance to clean up and rejoin society, but the guys at this "party" deserve no such thing. IMHO anyone who does something this unspeakable has waived any rights a human being is entitled to.

Yet what gives you the right to decide where the realm of human rights begins and ends?
Surely we all are born with, and ultimately retain, human rights until the day we die- because we are, after all, human. The idea of reformation and rehabilitation discredits the view of whether they deserve to clean up and rejoin sociey, rather, it asks whether or not they can clean up and rejoin society.

In principle, no-one has the right to destroy, take or ruin life. Everyone here obviously believes this, as they are so outspoken towards the rapists. So why, then, should it be acceptable to destroy, take or ruin the rapists lives? Surely, if the option is there for them to straighten up and reintegrate, they should be given it.

Sure, physical punishment looks 'just' on paper- it's a weighing scale effect- this much pain and suffering goes in, therefore, this much pain and suffering must come out. To see this in practice, you merely need to look at your local school playground. Yet is this really how we want to conduct our legal system?

 

[Corialos]

I doubt that my idea is new or even all that creative, but I think there's only one way to deal with shit like this.

Here's my scenario:

*ahem* Rather than killing the perpetrators, or merely throwing them into prison, I think a more elegant solution should be used. To wit; First, send them into prison and inform the inmates of their crimes, so that they may feel the sting of their own atrocities. Meanwhile, while the perps are in prison, inform the entire world of their identities and crimes and once everyone is made aware of their faces, names, and crimes, you should release them out into the world, telling them to go out to participate in their normal lives. Assuming that they survive society's scorn, have them spend their next birthdays in an empty room, where they are given a choice; have a slice of cake and then be thrown to society again, or to receive what most people ('most people' being like those on this forum, being those who would demand their death and torture) would be considered proper punishment for their crimes. Repeat this 'birthday process' every year.

If they have any conscience, then I believe that they'll eventually choose the latter solution, in which case they would be forcibly taken to an angry crowd, who would force the perps into every type of public humiliation and torture imaginable before being sent to the lynching posts and feeling the suffocation and slow strangulation of the yard arm as the 7-year old watches them, without remorse or pity for the ones who did this to her.

I believe that if we gave a punishment like this to just *one* person who committed such an atrocity, then it would serve as a perfect example to all those who would even THINK of doing something like this.

 

[Superfly CJ]

I doubt that my idea is new or even all that creative, but I think there's only one way to deal with shit like this.

Here's my scenario:

*ahem* Rather than killing the perpetrators, or merely throwing them into prison, I think a more elegant solution should be used. To wit; First, send them into prison and inform the inmates of their crimes, so that they may feel the sting of their own atrocities. Meanwhile, while the perps are in prison, inform the entire world of their identities and crimes and once everyone is made aware of their faces, names, and crimes, you should release them out into the world, telling them to go out to participate in their normal lives. Assuming that they survive society's scorn, have them spend their next birthdays in an empty room, where they are given a choice; have a slice of cake and then be thrown to society again, or to receive what most people ('most people' being like those on this forum, being those who would demand their death and torture) would be considered proper punishment for their crimes. Repeat this 'birthday process' every year.

If they have any conscience, then I believe that they'll eventually choose the latter solution, in which case they would be forcibly taken to an angry crowd, who would force the perps into every type of public humiliation and torture imaginable before being sent to the lynching posts and feeling the suffocation and slow strangulation of the yard arm as the 7-year old watches them, without remorse or pity for the ones who did this to her.

I believe that if we gave a punishment like this to just *one* person who committed such an atrocity, then it would serve as a perfect example to all those who would even THINK of doing something like this.

Torture tactics have been used and will be used by governments, and they never work to deter criminals. Chances are, if they're willing to risk up to an entire lifetime in a small cell, they're willing to risk torture and death.

As for your proposed 'solution': Don't you find it slightly ironic how sadistic at least half of the replies to this have been? I would hate having to live in a world where people are publically humiliated, tortured and killed for their wrongdoings. Sadly, instances of all three are present as we speak.

So lets say your plan goes forward- by the end of the fourth year, the criminal has apologised, genuinely made a mental breakthrough and no longer suffers from the same thoughts that made him commit to the crime in the first place. What have you got left? An innocent man, forced into a never-ending cycle of guilt, hatred and violence- forced to sob his way through life as people beat and belittle him- then eventually murdered in cold blood by some 'moral' crusader who will undoubtedly be praised for ridding the world of such evil, before moving on to the next 'criminal'. Should any human being ever be legally obliged to suffer this?