2012... why does this have so much support?

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I imagine that the 2012 apocalypse will happen but only out the fear that everybody makes it out to be. In short, the people that believe in this kind of shit are the ones that will cause December 21, 2012 to happen.
 

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because it was predicted by the mayans, and they know everything what with there thriving civilization and brilliant scientific minds working there.
they probably stopped recording the calender because they realized they hadn't sacrificed a children this morning so the sun wouldn't rise.
 

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xitel said:
Wait... I was under the impression that the world ended in 2000. And 2001. And every year after that, and about 20 years prior. Heck, I heard it ended yesterday. How many worlds are there?
The dolphins keep finding new worlds and transporting us there in our sleep.
 

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asiepshtain post=18.75629.875696 said:
cleverlymadeup said:
asiepshtain said:
Y2K wasn't some fabrication, it was a computer bug that could have been very distructive, espically in old banking systems
actually it was mostly in old dos systems, unix for the most part doesn't have this issue or more accurately has a very different issue but more than enough time to fix it
Who said the banks in question were running on unix?
no one did, i was correcting a mistake made by a lot of ppl about the y2k bug
 

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You know, every time someone mentions the Mayan date of the apocalypse to me I reply that they got it a couple of centuries off. Who here has ever met a Mayan?
 

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Some people just want to scare others, or become very very popular. It's nothing new, for some reason people just love the idea of "we're all gonna die!"

Which reminds me, I need to go back to secretly sabotaging the LHC so it does indeed create a micro black hole. Please don't try to stop me, thanks!
 

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Mray3460 said:
Nostradamus, a sixteenth century apothocary whom many consider to be a profit, left behind a book of illustrations linked to some of his quatrains indicating that 2012 was near the end time. I say 'near' the end time because the illustrations are only a marker for his traditions. The story goes that he had these pictures created because A. He'd seen that our time communicated better through images than words (T.V., Movies, Video Games) and he thought that we would better understand his predictions if the more important ones were illustrated and B. That after making his predictions of the end time, he realized that he'd have to give a specific moment so that we could prevent it, so, in the pictures, he gave clues to the aforementioned rare astronomical alignment as being the sign to watch out for (An alarm, if you will. I.E. the alignment itself is not the cause of the end of the age, but a warning of it).
Nostrodamus also predicted that there would be a "great treasure" under a tower in the southern french city of Nîmes, after considerable digging a 17th century noble had exhausted his entire fortune and nearly destroyed the tower due to the subsidance caused by his massive hole. Nothing was found and the hole remains to this day, albeit with a large concrete plinth in it designed to hold up the tower.
Nostrodamus was one of those people who made alot of predictions in a very vague manner, make enough predictions vaguely enough and of course you're going to come up with something that "comes true" eventually. It's like those people who believe in the "bible codes" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_codes). Given the length of the bible its unsuprising that some fairly arbitary computer programming can find predictions to random events. Using the same or similar software similar "codes" were found in the novel "Moby Dick".

I'm not saying nothing will happen in 2012, that would be a stupid thing to say, it's a year, alot can happen in a year, alot happened in the years: 1989 (Fall of the Berlin Wall), 1990 (Fall of the USSR), 1992(Black Wednesday plunges British economy into chaos removing Britain from the Exchange rate Mechanism), 1997 (Tony Blair wins the Brithish General Election), 1999 (Conflict in Kosovo), 2001 (Twin tower attacks), 2003 (Start of the Iraq war) just to arbiarilly pick a few years from my lifetime and name an event from them.
 

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Nostradamus spoke in allegory with his predictions to speak out about the times he lived in without being persecuted. We shouldn't look at him as a valid source.
 

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The Mayans predicted the world is going to end on 12/12/2012?


I was taught that it was 12/20/2012, but what is 8 days. My engineering degree would prove useful to me then as the world ends the year I get it.

All 12 things that was predicted by the Mayans has occurred, and just so you know the Mayan predictions are on a rotating cycle. The last time the "Doomsday" prophecy occurred was the end of their civilization. The world won't nessecarily end, but a major change in the world will occur.

Edit: Can't find internet sources to back this up, but I orginally heard this on the Discovery Channel
 

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sheic99 said:
The Mayans predicted the world is going to end on 12/12/2012?


I was taught that it was 12/20/2012, but what is 8 days. My engineering degree would prove useful to me then as the world ends the year I get it.

All 12 things that was predicted by the Mayans has occurred, and just so you know the Mayan predictions are on a rotating cycle. The last time the "Doomsday" prophecy occurred was the end of their civilization. The world won't nessecarily end, but a major change in the world will occur.

Edit: Can't find internet sources to back this up, but I orginally heard this on the Discovery Channel
Yeah, funny thing. I typed in "2012 apocalypse" and found this [http://www.apocalypse2012.com/] little site. And you're right, 12/20 not 12/12.

You all just failed. Discussing a totally wrong date. And no, your birthdays aren't on the day the apocalypse should occur.
 

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Reaperman Wompa said:
People will believe anything. Remember Y2K? And (I think) this is the only apocalypse in recent years so with technology we can spread the word about the end of the world easily, it reaching a lot of people who believe it and continue telling everyone who they can how 'We all gonna die!!".
Oh yeah. Heaven forbid that a computer could figure out 2000 follows 1999 without going apeshit.
People are always going to be interested in our demise. It's human nature.
 

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Archaeology Hat said:
Mray3460 said:
Nostradamus, a sixteenth century apothocary whom many consider to be a profit, left behind a book of illustrations linked to some of his quatrains indicating that 2012 was near the end time. I say 'near' the end time because the illustrations are only a marker for his traditions. The story goes that he had these pictures created because A. He'd seen that our time communicated better through images than words (T.V., Movies, Video Games) and he thought that we would better understand his predictions if the more important ones were illustrated and B. That after making his predictions of the end time, he realized that he'd have to give a specific moment so that we could prevent it, so, in the pictures, he gave clues to the aforementioned rare astronomical alignment as being the sign to watch out for (An alarm, if you will. I.E. the alignment itself is not the cause of the end of the age, but a warning of it).
Nostrodamus also predicted that there would be a "great treasure" under a tower in the southern french city of Nîmes, after considerable digging a 17th century noble had exhausted his entire fortune and nearly destroyed the tower due to the subsidance caused by his massive hole. Nothing was found and the hole remains to this day, albeit with a large concrete plinth in it designed to hold up the tower.
Nostrodamus was one of those people who made alot of predictions in a very vague manner, make enough predictions vaguely enough and of course you're going to come up with something that "comes true" eventually. It's like those people who believe in the "bible codes" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_codes). Given the length of the bible its unsuprising that some fairly arbitary computer programming can find predictions to random events. Using the same or similar software similar "codes" were found in the novel "Moby Dick".

I'm not saying nothing will happen in 2012, that would be a stupid thing to say, it's a year, alot can happen in a year, alot happened in the years: 1989 (Fall of the Berlin Wall), 1990 (Fall of the USSR), 1992(Black Wednesday plunges British economy into chaos removing Britain from the Exchange rate Mechanism), 1997 (Tony Blair wins the Brithish General Election), 1999 (Conflict in Kosovo), 2001 (Twin tower attacks), 2003 (Start of the Iraq war) just to arbiarilly pick a few years from my lifetime and name an event from them.
Shivari said:
Nostradamus spoke in allegory with his predictions to speak out about the times he lived in without being persecuted. We shouldn't look at him as a valid source.
Both of you make good points which I, in fact, agree with. I was just answering the original question in the thread title of why this theory has so much support. I don't really believe anything of much significance is going to happen concerning the day (other than a whole lot of people going to church and hiding in basements with spam and powdered milk). However, I thank you for pointing out some of the flaws in the argument.
 

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the protaginist said:
So i'm reading more and more about 2012,and the apocalypse or elevation that will happen in the year.My question is...why? Why do i keep hearing about this? i mean,the whole thing started with the Tribes of what is now south america. But these were people who didn't know where the sun went at night.how did this gain so much credibility?
well they were more than just tribes... we are talking about a real significant civilization with an advanced calender based on celestial movement(there is evidence to suggest they understood the concept of orbits). also on the date in question the Earth, Sol(the sun), and Galactic Central Point will align(whatever). but there is most likely nothing to worry aboot. also it is apocolypse type stuff and religious nutters eat that shit up. but do not belittle the people of the time, they may have been brutal(what with the sacrifices and all) but they weren't that primitive
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Because Sarah Palin will run for president
OH GOD NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Kikosemmek said:
You know, every time someone mentions the Mayan date of the apocalypse to me I reply that they got it a couple of centuries off. Who here has ever met a Mayan?
I don't know about meeting them but today they live as semi modern tribes people in central america, their civilization collapsed they aren't extinct
sheic99 said:
The Mayans predicted the world is going to end on 12/12/2012?


I was taught that it was 12/20/2012, but what is 8 days. My engineering degree would prove useful to me then as the world ends the year I get it.

All 12 things that was predicted by the Mayans has occurred, and just so you know the Mayan predictions are on a rotating cycle. The last time the "Doomsday" prophecy occurred was the end of their civilization. The world won't nessecarily end, but a major change in the world will occur.

Edit: Can't find internet sources to back this up, but I orginally heard this on the Discovery Channel
This isn't true, and you are not correct about the last "doomsday" ocurring right as their civilization collapsed, their calenders work in cycles that is correct. what 12 things are you talking about? you shouldn't post if you don't have the specifics. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayan_calender go there and read about the long count.
 

sheic99

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Hunde Des Krieg said:
Kikosemmek said:
You know, every time someone mentions the Mayan date of the apocalypse to me I reply that they got it a couple of centuries off. Who here has ever met a Mayan?
I don't know about meeting them but today they live as semi modern tribes people in central america, their civilization collapsed they aren't extinct
sheic99 said:
The Mayans predicted the world is going to end on 12/12/2012?


I was taught that it was 12/20/2012, but what is 8 days. My engineering degree would prove useful to me then as the world ends the year I get it.

All 12 things that was predicted by the Mayans has occurred, and just so you know the Mayan predictions are on a rotating cycle. The last time the "Doomsday" prophecy occurred was the end of their civilization. The world won't nessecarily end, but a major change in the world will occur.

Edit: Can't find internet sources to back this up, but I orginally heard this on the Discovery Channel
This isn't true, and you are not correct about the last "doomsday" ocurring right as their civilization collapsed, their calenders work in cycles that is correct. what 12 things are you talking about? you shouldn't post if you don't have the specifics. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayan_calender go there and read about the long count.
Yeah I admitted that I did not remember everything. As of now I have only found the prophecies for the Return of Quetzalcoatl, which sounds a lot like Jesus.


Also upon further research 12/20/2012 is the creation of NEW WORLD, not doomsday.
 

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Shivari said:
Because December 21, 2012 will be my 20th birthday. 21 backwards is 12 so my age on that date and the day backwards is 2012! We're all going to die!
It's also my stepdad's birthday. You kids must be the anti-Christ's or something...

Wait, does this mean I don't have to get a present?
 

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I laugh at people who think the world will end in 2012. I want all the people who thought the world would end in 2012 to get in one huge group so I can laugh at them all at once. The world will never end will the Sun burn it up and it looks like Mercury.
 

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Here's my theory, it is largely speculation and I don't have sources. It's just one of those things that you make up from scraps of info. Keep that in mind.
Our translation of the calendar was wrong bu quite a few years. Possibly by 13 years, making the actual date 2025. If Zeitgeist(yes, I went there) is to be believed, 2025 is the end of the age. The calendar stops at the end of the age, not the end of the world.