21st Century Children and Respect
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I don't think having a fear of what the OP said has anything to do with this. I grew up watching terminator, robocop, Alien(s) and any other violent films/games and I'm still quite respectful and was too when I was a kid.
As for kids themselves, well their going to have good and bad days, you know because their kids and thats what kids do, hence why we have this thing called parents. I bet a good 80% of issues to do with kids can somehow be related back to their parents and their upbringing.
If your 4 year old swears like a sailor then that's your fault. If your 10 year old throws a tantrum because they didn't get something then that's your fault too, seriously some parents need to stop spoiling their kids, you're a parent not a friend. If your kids happy all the time then you're doing something wrong, they need boundaries which they wont like but they'll get over it soon enough. (End rant)
As for kids themselves, well their going to have good and bad days, you know because their kids and thats what kids do, hence why we have this thing called parents. I bet a good 80% of issues to do with kids can somehow be related back to their parents and their upbringing.
If your 4 year old swears like a sailor then that's your fault. If your 10 year old throws a tantrum because they didn't get something then that's your fault too, seriously some parents need to stop spoiling their kids, you're a parent not a friend. If your kids happy all the time then you're doing something wrong, they need boundaries which they wont like but they'll get over it soon enough. (End rant)
I'm going to take the "we all had our turn at being the worst generation". What did my parents think as I wasted hours in front my SNES and Sega Genesis or as I walked around with brick of a Gameboy? I'm no less respectful for it, but I was 12 once and therefore I was at least for a while a douche.
/getoffmylawnEClaris said:
As for the OP: That's the worst logic ever and here's a surprise for you, in maybe 10-15 years those kids you're complaining about right now will start complaining about the next batch of kids, who "just don't get it"
Shouldn't that be the other way around? You respect something because it's a threat.bigfatcarp93 said:
Anyway, yes I find kids these days to be disrespectful and spoiled little bastards, but that's probably what other people thought of my generation when I was a kid.
Yeah horror movies never fazed me, used to watch Evil Dead 2, Day of the Dead when i was 10 - SFX was my career choice as a kid. But old horror movies were more gritty and real, look at The Thing, amazing real effects. Today, all horror movies have shitty fake cgi and its filmed all shiny and new its laughable. Some movies even have cgi blood, fuck surely its cheaper to get some fake blood and spray it across the screen? lol
As for respect, most kids are fine where as others have no idea what it is. They give attitude and aspect to be given respect before they show any to you. Idiots.
As for respect, most kids are fine where as others have no idea what it is. They give attitude and aspect to be given respect before they show any to you. Idiots.
I'm part of the generation mentioned and I think there is some truth to be had. Some of the British youth these days are the special kind of stupid where they don't know there stupid and think everything will just fall into their lap. The majority of teens I have been forced to interact with have never seen films that are considered classic. I get the no respect point but there is more to it Namely everything is being dumbed down by people in power. I don't have the right words to expand on this but I'm sure someone here does so let them explain it to you...
Wait, what? Because kids don't find games and movies that you think are scary they lack respect? I don't find any of the things you listed scary and i'm not 12 year old I can assure you. My theory is that kids today are just desensitized with all the video games they play and other disturbing crap you find on the internet.
But seriously, how the fuck did you get lack of respect from not showing fear of fictional stories?
Amnesia: The dark descent scared me though
But seriously, how the fuck did you get lack of respect from not showing fear of fictional stories?
Amnesia: The dark descent scared me though
Let me give a nice little event that happened:
I was at walmart, buying an old copy of Transformers: War for Cybertron since I missed it on release. [This was about a year after it's release] When I was looking for the game, there was a kid next to who couldn't have been more than ten. He poked the casing for the game he wanted and left, I didn't see which game it was so I minded my own business. After I found WFC, I went to get the clerk, only to find the clerk talking to a woman who appeared to be the mother of the little boy.
This boy wanted Black Ops, but the clerk warned the mother it was rated M For Mature. The boy through a fit, obviously, like normal, so I went over and did this: "You know what kid? Life is unfair. Life sucks. You don't always get what you want. Shut your whining, deal with it, and be the mature adult here that your friends clearly aren't." He pouted at me, but with a sinister "I hate you!" look in his eyes.
His mother looked at me odd and I said "Be the responsible mother, don't give in to his whining. Make him earn what he wants. Make him do something worth the games, like respect you." She looked at me a bit thoughtfully, but then her son tried to swing at me, calling me a dickhead. I picked him, and hung him upside down. I then added respecting others the kid started fussing. All the while I turned to the clerk and asked for the WFC game.
He went off and got it and when he came back, I let the kid go and he walked out of the store empty handed. When I went back to the store about two weeks later with my grandmother for groceries, the store clerk recognized me and told me the mother sends me thanks for helping.
I feel good about that experience. I know I had friends with M rated games growing up. My parents kept a firm leash on me, and I didn't get a single M Rated game until I was fourteen.
I was at walmart, buying an old copy of Transformers: War for Cybertron since I missed it on release. [This was about a year after it's release] When I was looking for the game, there was a kid next to who couldn't have been more than ten. He poked the casing for the game he wanted and left, I didn't see which game it was so I minded my own business. After I found WFC, I went to get the clerk, only to find the clerk talking to a woman who appeared to be the mother of the little boy.
This boy wanted Black Ops, but the clerk warned the mother it was rated M For Mature. The boy through a fit, obviously, like normal, so I went over and did this: "You know what kid? Life is unfair. Life sucks. You don't always get what you want. Shut your whining, deal with it, and be the mature adult here that your friends clearly aren't." He pouted at me, but with a sinister "I hate you!" look in his eyes.
His mother looked at me odd and I said "Be the responsible mother, don't give in to his whining. Make him earn what he wants. Make him do something worth the games, like respect you." She looked at me a bit thoughtfully, but then her son tried to swing at me, calling me a dickhead. I picked him, and hung him upside down. I then added respecting others the kid started fussing. All the while I turned to the clerk and asked for the WFC game.
He went off and got it and when he came back, I let the kid go and he walked out of the store empty handed. When I went back to the store about two weeks later with my grandmother for groceries, the store clerk recognized me and told me the mother sends me thanks for helping.
I feel good about that experience. I know I had friends with M rated games growing up. My parents kept a firm leash on me, and I didn't get a single M Rated game until I was fourteen.
I think that's a vast generalisation. I'm "of this generation" and I can't even stand the idea of horror without getting nightmares for a week. Then again, this does ring a bell with a lot of the people my age, or at least what I've seen of them.
Isn't the rating system more or less a warning for the parent to understand what the kid is playing and not a technical rule to abide by. I've seen mothers take their eight year olds to watch slasher flicks, did those kids get annoying in the theater, why yes, but that doesn't mean that watching that movie would have made them phycho killers.overpuce said:
A human brain is smart enough to tell what is real and what is fake, thus the reason kids play Call of Duty without turning into murderers is because Call of Duty is obviously fake.
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Horror is subjective, and I mean completely subjective. Along with different categories of horror striking different levels of emotions. Dead Space isn't scary because you got so much health and ammo that the alien zombie isn't as scary when you've killed off their neighbors Mrs. Crazy Arms and Mr. I Jump On Player.
Amnesia wasn't scary for me as say Cry of Fear was. Cry of Fear was more scary then Amnesia because I didn't have the safety of just turning off my light and sitting to avoid the monster.
No, not really...I mean yeah, the game wouldn't hurt the kid, but my goal wasn't "DEFEND HIS INNOCENCE." it was to bring discipline and my goal was accomplished. I only hope it's still sticking. It was funny though, a little 10 year old swinging at someone roughly twice his size, only to be picked up and put in his place. The mother clearly was having enough of his whining too.Matthew94 said:
But yeah, under any other circumstance, I should have stayed away. But I was there, I needed to talk to the Clerk, so I figured I'd settle the commotion while I was there.
Uh, I don't find Dead Space scary, and I don't find many horror movies scary either. That doesn't mean I don't respect them. I didn't find Let The Right One In that scary, but I loved that movie anyway, it's one of my favourites.
However, I'm scared of moths, but that doesn't mean I respect moths. I knew this girl who would push people down stairs and stamp on them, I was scared of her because she acted really creepy around me and my friends, but I didn't respect her, I thought she was an annoying creepy psycho.
I'm pretty sure respect isn't connected to fear.
However, I'm scared of moths, but that doesn't mean I respect moths. I knew this girl who would push people down stairs and stamp on them, I was scared of her because she acted really creepy around me and my friends, but I didn't respect her, I thought she was an annoying creepy psycho.
I'm pretty sure respect isn't connected to fear.
I've seen exactly this sort of thing in myself, I'm ashamed to say. I've lost respect for the things and people around me. I wonder what it'll be like two or three generations from now?
horrible, I'd imagine.
captcha Toyota Prius c. It wouldn't accept my answer of 'go to hell'. what a shame.
horrible, I'd imagine.
captcha Toyota Prius c. It wouldn't accept my answer of 'go to hell'. what a shame.
?Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.?
That quote is attributed to Socrates in about 400-ish BC. The tradition of complaining about the youth of today is an ancient one indeed.
That quote is attributed to Socrates in about 400-ish BC. The tradition of complaining about the youth of today is an ancient one indeed.
Same with their health. We end up overprotecting them. Throwing medication at them so their immune systems don't. Creating the the most cold boring playgrounds ever. There is no risk/reward anymore. We sanitize life for them and then they are going to be unable to cope with anything as adults.manic_depressive13 said: