3DS is reportedly Nintendo's most powerful console ever
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Right, because the SNES being more powerful than the Mega Drive, the N64 being more powerful than the PSX and the Gamecube being more powerful than the PS2 was all just a happy coincidence. People need to stop looking at the Wii and thinking they know Nintendo's full history and ideology.Terramax said:
Anyway, back on topic, you always get these outrageous claims when something is coming out. I remember when the Cell processor would revolutionize gaming and 16 bits of gaming would totally blow your mind.
Plus the article doesn't state that Nintendo is saying this, it's just IGN quoting some "developers" who cannot be named under pain of lawsuit. Such grounds for basis of opinion pretty much define the phrase "shaky at best".
Personally, I'm a bit dismayed that Nintendo are going down the 3D gimmick route. Oh if they make it work then fine, but I better not have to wear any sort of stupid glasses, because they just don't work with me. Saying that I've not tried the new ones they use for Avatar and such.
Errrmm....No, the 360 is not a 8800GT, it's equivalent to whatever Radeons were around in 2005...X900 or whatever they were, and similarly, the PS3 is based on a GeForce 7900. If they were 9800GTX+'s, then the home consoles would be able to achieve 1080p, which currently, they struggle with greatly.Mazty said:No it's not possible because of cooling. The 360 is on par with the 8800GT and the PS3 is on par with probably the 9800GTX+ but there is no way the 3DS will be close to either.shaboinkin said:I think it is quite possible. Why?
Gaming laptops today have GPUs that can far exceed the processing power of the 360. If I recall correctly, the gpu in the 360 is about the same as a nvidia 7800. Or something like that.
That is about the size of a laptop gpu.
All you need now is the CPU, some RAM chips and all the other necessary elements that make up a circuit board, and I do believe it could be as small as the DSi, maybe a bit bigger.
There is one thing with my claim that worries me. That laptop gpu right there has that big ass heatsink on it. Heatsink + handheld = My fingers are gonna be hot.
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Another thing that should be noted.
They say nothing about graphics. It just says it basically needs to create a copy of the game being played and show it at the same time.
Power =/= graphic capabilities
Firstly, size - to fit in a powerful GPU and CPU you need room and there is no way they are going to be using the newly manufactured 28nm chips as that'd cost a fortune. Plus with power you need electricity and there is no way the 3DS will be able to power powerful chips unless it has a battery life of 30 mins. Also as I said before cooling will be a big issue and there is no way that chips the power of the 360 and PS3 can be cooled with simple airflow. The smallest GPU in terms of power to size that Nvidia make is the GT240 and that still needs a fan and about 60W of power, while still being quite a bit less powerful than the 8800GT, even though it is a 40nm chip.
What we are more likely to see is a console with the power of the Nvidia Tegra chip, which is somewhere between PS2 and Xbox 360 but certainly not the power of the HD consoles. It's in a lot of pads so I'd be amazed if it wasn't, or something similar, in the 3DS.
Also, thinking about getting "good graphics" on the 3DS, it's more of a case of screen size. We believe there would probably be 800x480 screen, which would look fantastically sharp at DS size, but then you think...right, say we want iPhone or iPad quality. You're now rendering 4 times as much as they would have to, and, in the case of an iPhone, more, due to resolution. Think of it as being as powerful as 4 Nexus ones or HTC HD2's...in a single, cheap(ish) handheld. Graphics will never be "360 quality" because it's impossible.
Remember, 2x 800x480 screens, and two images per frame.
Thus each frame is the equivalent of a 1600x960 output. Most (mainstream, cheap) mobile GPUs struggle up that high. struggle up there
Depends. Talking about power is always a very vague business, unless you go into specifics. Which Nintendo very rarely do, particularly when making press releases about something they want to keep secret.
The IGN article that all this came from also uses a lot of speculation so I'm sceptical. It's certainly very possible that it's true, just improbable, very impractical and not Nintendo-like at all.
The IGN article that all this came from also uses a lot of speculation so I'm sceptical. It's certainly very possible that it's true, just improbable, very impractical and not Nintendo-like at all.
I honestly doubt a handheld could have the power of a PS3 or 360 at this point and still be small or have a long battery life.
so apparently Nintendo has not only secretly perfected room temperature superconductors, but quantum computing as well? because thats the only way that i can see they can make this even remotely possible. The heat generated otherwise will not only fry the device but probably give serious burns to the user.
You'll be happy to hear Nintendo has announced the 3DS is an entirely self-contained 3D system, ie you can view 3D effects without the use of glasses. Which sounds cool, but it makes you wonder how portable it's going to end up being.t_rexaur said:
I highly doubt the 3DS will be on par with current gen consoles, I mean are you sure they were not referring to the PS2 and Xbox1? I mean really, to get the quality of current consoles on a handheld would have serious power supply issues. You'd get piss all for battery life with the horsepower in a hanheld these days. Maybe a little further down the road we could see portables with that ability but for now it's pretty damn unlikely.
Really, I will say the same thing when I heard about the PSP2 specs; i will believe it when I actually see. Until then I call BS.
Really, I will say the same thing when I heard about the PSP2 specs; i will believe it when I actually see. Until then I call BS.
