5-Year-Old Breaks TV, Mother Murders Him

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Ajna

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Katana314 said:
Ajna said:
The Plunk said:
The vast majority of people will be parents at some point in their lives. And yet, we expect people to just magically know how to raise a kid. If they taught basic parenting classes in schools we could avoid many cases of people failing as parents such as this one. I really can't see any reason why this would be a bad idea.
There actually are parenting classes at schools (or at least, there were at my school). But they aren't required (the closest my school came is that a "personal living" class was required to graduate, and parenting classes counted. But there were easier courses that counted too, so most people (including me) didn't take those.

I'd fully support such a class being a requirement to graduate though. Makes sense as something necessary for life. Probably more so than four years of math, honestly.
Might be nice to have something government-supported, so expectant parents could go to some series of seminars at a local college for free. And you get a tax break for attending. Or maybe they already have something like that?
Miscommunication on my part. Was referring to High School. And I went to public school, so it already was 100% government supported.
 

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I understand the idea of Wiimotes breaking an LCD TV set - LCD screens practically being made out of tissue paper - but the TV in that picture looks like an older CRT screen, the curvy kind that was thicker than LCD screens and much more durable. So I can't for the life of me imagine throwing a Wiimote hard enough to break the screen. That kid must have had arm muscles like Goku. My CRT has survived accidental airsoft round discharges with nary a dent.

And of course the mother was upset. CRT screens are really hard to come by these days. Uh, I mean... oh no, a dead child! What kind of terrible parent would do such a thing?! Etc. Etc.
 

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The murder thing is largely extreme, but you learn to except this from some of the good Christians/other people who just said it for whatever reason and are probably the majority of people, nobody needs the death sentence, no matter what might be the charge, that would both be imitating the actions of the woman convicted, and rushing to a conclusion without looking carefully.
 

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Earnest Cavalli said:
5-Year-Old Breaks TV, Mother Murders Him



Kim Crawford has been charged with killing her young son after the boy broke a television while playing with his Nintendo Wii.

Prosecutors allege that Crawford went into a rage following the TV's destruction, and that the woman admits to "hitting the boy hard in the back and stomach."

By the time police arrived at the Crawford home, young Jamar Johnson was unconscious and had stopped breathing. An autopsy confirmed that the child suffered "internal abdominal injuries."

It's interesting to note that Crawford's attorney is not arguing for the woman's innocence. While she acknowledges that Crawford attacked her son, she claims that the New York City resident had no intention of killing the child.

Currently Crawford is being held without bond in the Bronx. Presumably, a sentencing hearing is imminent.

Attentive gamers will recall that this "Wii breaks TV" phenomenon is far from novel. A cursory Google search for Wiimote-damaged HDTVs [http://www.google.com/search?q=wii+breaks+tv&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:eek:fficial&client=firefox-a] brings up thousands of examples of people flailing wildly and accidentally launching Nintendo's motion-activated controller through the screen of their expensive media box.

That said, I do believe this is the most tragic incident to spring from the console's existence. I refuse to condemn the woman until the courts are done with her, but of all the reasons to beat your child to death -- and there really aren't any good ones -- this has to place pretty high on the list of "most despicable."

Source: MSNBC [http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43478578/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/mom-kills--year-old-over-broken-tv-prosecutors/]
(Image [http://www.flickr.com/photos/nakken18/5496160275/])

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when i read it, i almost laughed, thinking when they said murder that they meant 'gave out to.' then i realised she really did murder him. and now i feel sick.that woman is sick. if she doesn't go to jail, i swear, i will give up on america altogether.
 

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This is just utterly fucking disgusting. You know what else is disgusting? The people on this thread making jokes. You deserve to get punched in the fucking face. Come on people, this isn't 4chan. A lot of the time there are mature discussions going on here about much less important things and then "This'll teach kids not to break shit" comments. How about if this was your kid huh? Shut the fuck up and grow up you pathetic idiots. A child was killed, is it really something to make jokes about, in ANY context?
 

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The post is leaving out a crucial part of the story, and I think it should be edited in.

The child died FIVE DAYS after the beating from his mother. She didn't take him to the hospital because she was afraid she'd get in trouble. FIVE FUCKING DAYS. She didn't just beat him straight to death, she beat him and let him suffer because she was afraid of the consequences. Imagine being that young and in excruciating pain and your mom ignores you because she doesn't want to get in trouble. This is the lowest humanity has sunk in a while here.
Agreed. That was an important detail. It wasn't JUST an extreme act of instant aggression. The poor boy internally bled out for FIVE DAYS and the mother didn't take him to a hospital because she would get in trouble for hitting her kids.

And he died and she's in trouble anyway.

May that boy find peace. May his abusive, selfish, cruel, moronic, despicable, heartless mother get what she deserves.
 

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Earnest Cavalli said:
I refuse to condemn the woman until the courts are done with her
Eh, why? She's admitted to beating and kicking her child to death. What does the court need to say about it for you to condemn such a person? o_O

OT: Give the stupid ***** a death penalty imo. You don't beat someone to death by accident.
 

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I really hope she doesn't get the death penalty. If she's any type of mother, life in prison living with the fact that she killed her defenseless son would be much worse than death.
 

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The Plunk said:
The vast majority of people will be parents at some point in their lives. And yet, we expect people to just magically know how to raise a kid. If they taught basic parenting classes in schools we could avoid many cases of people failing as parents such as this one. I really can't see any reason why this would be a bad idea.
Some schools do have a course in parenthood. My high school had one, but it was entirely optional. The only people that took that class were girls who were looking to have children the moment they graduated, and then they had children the moment they graduated. I feel most of them found it was easier to go down the road of house wife than to get a job, since all the ones that I spoke too really slacked off in every other class, but just enough to still graduate if they did at all.

Children die all the time, as do people, and sometimes they die because of their own parents. It's been going on long before this case, and while it's horrible to read up on a scenario where this actually happened, it's no different than any other scenario. However, I feel that having a mandatory parenthood class will not stop these scenarios from happening. Especially in cases like this where common sense should have easily told the woman "It's not a good idea to strike a 5 year old in the stomach."

You can't teach common sense to some people, and even then, it can fly out the window if a persons emotions become too extreme. People do really stupid shit when enraged. Some cannot control themselves under that kind of stress, this woman appears to be one of them. Does that excuse her of her actions? Of course not, but if anything, the woman needs guidance in learning how to control ones own emotions and impulses. Sadly, that is not taught in a parenthood class in high school. At least I wouldn't think it would be, if so, then every girl I've spoken too back in high school needs to take that class over again, because a lot of them were just bat shit crazy!

The woman is most likely not sick in the head, and if so, then not severely. She simply lost her cool. The story does not state whether or not there were outside factors leading up to this or not. As other people have stated, she could have been under intense stress from an outside source.

Looking it over again, it doesn't even state how enraged she was. There are so many questions that this article does not answer, though one would only have to assume you'd have to hit a child fairly hard in the stomach in order to render them dead.

What bothers me though, is that the wii is involved in this story when it shouldn't be. That's going to cause a stir in the media. When it comes down to it. A kid broke a TV and the mother hit him and 'accidentally' killed him. It doesn't matter how, or with what, especially since a wiimote comes with a strap to keep things like this from happening, and the wii itself takes any chance it gets to remind you to wear it. Now if the kid WAS wearing it and it happened to snap off. Then there is a problem with faulty equipment.

Which also brings in a lot of other factors. Was it faulty when they received it? Did it wear down after a lot of use? That sort of thing.

Yay for rambling on... What are we talking about again?

StellarViking said:
The post is leaving out a crucial part of the story, and I think it should be edited in.

The child died FIVE DAYS after the beating from his mother. She didn't take him to the hospital because she was afraid she'd get in trouble. FIVE FUCKING DAYS. She didn't just beat him straight to death, she beat him and let him suffer because she was afraid of the consequences. Imagine being that young and in excruciating pain and your mom ignores you because she doesn't want to get in trouble. This is the lowest humanity has sunk in a while here.
Yeah, that's something that really should be in this article. Again, emotions getting the best of her. Fear can mislead so easily :(
 

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Your child is born with horns and his first word is Damian.

You are Tom Cruise and your child is destined to enslave humanity.

Your child can only survive by drinking human blood....and your running out of neighbors.

Your child refuses to drink non-flavored milk.

Your child is better then you at your favorite video game.

Your child was conceived during an alien abduction.

Your child's favorite color is brown.

And of course the most popular reason for murdering your child.

Your child is not male (sad but true).
 

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#1 5 year olds break stuff and do dumb things.

#2 WRIST STRAPS. USE THEM.

#3 Dumbass people

#4 Enjoy getting your ass beat in prison you psycho.
 

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I propose an alternative title.

"Child breaks TV and mother's heart. Woman solves house's child infestation."
 

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Some people just need to learn to get a grip on themselves.
Such violence shows a life out of balance - a skewed set of priorities.

What a drag.
 

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I feel bad for the Defense Attorney. To have to associate with someone like this would be the low-point of anyone's career.
 

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The headline made me thing that the woman killed her child right away, or at least in a short period of time, with the beating rather than it taking days for the internal injuries to be the end. Yay for barely accurate titles?

Sadly, I can see things like this still causing a stir, but still not enough to get parents to think "Jee. Maybe I should take precautions against stupid or dangerous accidents happening because I'm not that moron in the news." And what's sadder is that it doesn't bother me like it probably would have years ago. There's just nothing I could personally do but make sure that my own kids, if I ever have any, are taught to listen to safety signs on their games.

Forcing parents to take classes on anger management, priorities, and how to use common sense with their kids would help those smart enough to actually put what they learned to use, but how could the US do that when school funding keeps getting slashed more and more? Even if the classes were actually done, how many students would still sit in front of a screen as their infant suffocates in another room or simply shove their offspring into someone else's hands?

This is depressing enough as it is...
 

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This is horrifying. I can't even imagine beating someone, let alone a kid, to death over a TV. Maybe the woman is insane, maybe she didn't realize her own strength, or maybe she's an evil unforgivable *****.

I'm just so tired of hearing all of these tragic, senseless stories. Can't we ever get some heartwarming, cheerful stories around here?