5-Year-Old Breaks TV, Mother Murders Him
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because any other animal on the planet has non-necessities and values them highly?Demoliboy2 said:
this incident is exclusively human
also if the kid was left to suffer and die over FIVE DAYS then there should not be a court hearing just a "hello you fucked up. good bye." *gunshot to the head*
Wow, this brings a whole new meaning to " my mom is gonna kill me!!" I can't remember how many times I said that as a kid,but this just boggles my mind.
You can choose not condemn her. I'll take care of it because I do condemn her. There is only one reason I can think of the ever hit a child, and that's if your life or someone else' life is in danger. (I don't count spanking as hitting)
Sorry, but no. No right-thinking parent would *beat* their child over a tv set. Believe me, it isn't inevitable. I tore up some raceway tickets one time, intentionally (never been to a race before, and I was scared of car racing. Dale Earnhardt had just died) and not a finger was laid on me. Yelling and shouting, yeah. Fuming, yeah. Crying and screaming and shame on my part? Yeah. Beating and death? No.CosmicCommander said:
Thing is, we laugh about the day I tore up those tickets now, it was such a WTF moment. Still not sure why my gut reaction was to rip them to shreds.
They won't have anything funny to laugh about over this, because of a moron parent. Tragic beyond measure.
I like to stand by the whole innocent till proven guilty, but theres really no why for me not to judge this.
Considering that people are killed on a fairly regular basis and left in the street to rot purely based on the POSSIBILITY that there are $40 bucks in their pocket [cash value based on average street price of meth-amphetamines], it would seem as though people DO kill over things significantly less valuable than a television. The most major difference I notice in this case is that an innocent child was killed as opposed to the regular innocent adult/teen. I don't promote the death penalty, in fact, in my country (Canada)it doesn't exist anymore. I also happen to be against vengeance, especially second hand, [referring to those who would see the woman tortured/killed etc.] mostly because that's the sort of impulsive blood lust and lack of clear thinking that likely had a hand in causing this and other tragedies. Interestingly, I, like several others here, can't say I'm all that shocked. I'm angry, but not shocked, frustrated, but not surprised. I may be the only one to hold this opinion but I've noticed over the course of my life that mothers are among, if not the most short fused and impulsive people I've ever met. It doesn't surprise me at all to think that a mom could see her broken tv that she no doubt spent many hours working to purchase and fly into a rage. I could see my own mother trying to hurt me for breaking our tv, just because she's high strung. Lack of self control or forethought are too of the least desirable traits in a human being from my perspective, because of things like this. Fortunately, I'm in my mid teens and am big enough to defend myself physically, and I'm faster than she is when I need to be.
Short version: People kill for less money, this is a kid though, so its different. Mob mentality and self righteous anger cause murder, and mothers seem have a habit of being very stressed out and irrational, and they yell about everything...for no good reason..then feel justified in hitting you for suggesting that they overreacted.<--Catch the irony? -Sigh- I'm a little bitter -shrug-
Short version: People kill for less money, this is a kid though, so its different. Mob mentality and self righteous anger cause murder, and mothers seem have a habit of being very stressed out and irrational, and they yell about everything...for no good reason..then feel justified in hitting you for suggesting that they overreacted.<--Catch the irony? -Sigh- I'm a little bitter -shrug-
Could we have a correct thread title? Mother "accidentally kills" him.
Murder would be if she made a plan to go into his room while he was sleeping and slit his throat with a knife, then disposed of the evidence. Manslaughter is a very different situation that, appropriately, has a lesser punishment.
I am often flabbergasted at how often this forum is willing to condemn a person to the bowels of hades for a momentary relapse; so many people here are just so quick to assume the worst. A person really can be driven to depths they don't like about themselves. In fact, I would venture a guess to say that as much as, like many mothers, she was constantly frustrated with her son's behavior, she still loved him as a son. She doesn't need the condemnation of a million people to go along with her own guilt.
Additionally...Children are not always perfectly innocent; whoever said you should never strike a child? There have been children so physically powerful their parents are afraid to defy them. Never say never. Whenever you hear a story that surprises you like this, know that you know nothing about the history of the people involved, and anything could be true.
This woman is guilty. She is not guilty of the holocaust.
Murder would be if she made a plan to go into his room while he was sleeping and slit his throat with a knife, then disposed of the evidence. Manslaughter is a very different situation that, appropriately, has a lesser punishment.
I am often flabbergasted at how often this forum is willing to condemn a person to the bowels of hades for a momentary relapse; so many people here are just so quick to assume the worst. A person really can be driven to depths they don't like about themselves. In fact, I would venture a guess to say that as much as, like many mothers, she was constantly frustrated with her son's behavior, she still loved him as a son. She doesn't need the condemnation of a million people to go along with her own guilt.
Additionally...Children are not always perfectly innocent; whoever said you should never strike a child? There have been children so physically powerful their parents are afraid to defy them. Never say never. Whenever you hear a story that surprises you like this, know that you know nothing about the history of the people involved, and anything could be true.
This woman is guilty. She is not guilty of the holocaust.
Dang. And I thought my mother locking me in my room with no electronics at all and grounded for a couple of days after dropping the TV was bad.
But then again, how DID she hit the kid? I understand parents slapping some sense into their kids. Literally. My mother used to slap me or smack me and I'm sure most parents have done that at one point. But punching? Punching a small kid? As a parent, you can't punch your kid! Spank, slap, smack, I guess that's...eh, alright because it's not meant to cause an injury. It's not right either but at least its not as dangerous as punching someone! I mean, in order to create the kind of injury that mother did, you would have to punch the kid hard!
Of course she didn't intend to kill the kid, but come on. If I'm angry and I stab someone, perhaps I don't expect them to die but I sure as hell want to cause a serious injury.
The worst part is that video games will get blamed. Somehow.
But then again, how DID she hit the kid? I understand parents slapping some sense into their kids. Literally. My mother used to slap me or smack me and I'm sure most parents have done that at one point. But punching? Punching a small kid? As a parent, you can't punch your kid! Spank, slap, smack, I guess that's...eh, alright because it's not meant to cause an injury. It's not right either but at least its not as dangerous as punching someone! I mean, in order to create the kind of injury that mother did, you would have to punch the kid hard!
Of course she didn't intend to kill the kid, but come on. If I'm angry and I stab someone, perhaps I don't expect them to die but I sure as hell want to cause a serious injury.
The worst part is that video games will get blamed. Somehow.
I'd think melting down the Wii and broken TV and pouring the contents on her head ala Game of Thrones would be a fitting fate.
There actually are parenting classes at schools (or at least, there were at my school). But they aren't required (the closest my school came is that a "personal living" class was required to graduate, and parenting classes counted. But there were easier courses that counted too, so most people (including me) didn't take those.The Plunk said:
I'd fully support such a class being a requirement to graduate though. Makes sense as something necessary for life. Probably more so than four years of math, honestly.
The post is leaving out a crucial part of the story, and I think it should be edited in.
The child died FIVE DAYS after the beating from his mother. She didn't take him to the hospital because she was afraid she'd get in trouble. FIVE FUCKING DAYS. She didn't just beat him straight to death, she beat him and let him suffer because she was afraid of the consequences. Imagine being that young and in excruciating pain and your mom ignores you because she doesn't want to get in trouble. This is the lowest humanity has sunk in a while here.
The child died FIVE DAYS after the beating from his mother. She didn't take him to the hospital because she was afraid she'd get in trouble. FIVE FUCKING DAYS. She didn't just beat him straight to death, she beat him and let him suffer because she was afraid of the consequences. Imagine being that young and in excruciating pain and your mom ignores you because she doesn't want to get in trouble. This is the lowest humanity has sunk in a while here.
She's getting manslaughter and I'm not too sad about her being locked up.
Less chance of her giving birth again and raising a kid to be as crazy as she is.
Poor baby couldn't be saved though...T^T
Less chance of her giving birth again and raising a kid to be as crazy as she is.
Poor baby couldn't be saved though...T^T