72 Percent of Adults Support California Game Law - UPDATED
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To Concerned Parents,
It's not the videogame industry or government's job to protect your kids from violent products, it is your job to do that. If your kid asks you for a game that you're unsure about buying simply type the title into Google. Chances are that the first couple sites you come across will give you all the information you'll need to make an informed and intelligent decision. If your child continues to plead, just don't give in. It's your job to raise your children, not the games industry, and that means keeping an eye on what you plan on buying for your kid.
This lesson in basic parenting brought to you by BenzSmoke, a seventeen year old kid.
It's not the videogame industry or government's job to protect your kids from violent products, it is your job to do that. If your kid asks you for a game that you're unsure about buying simply type the title into Google. Chances are that the first couple sites you come across will give you all the information you'll need to make an informed and intelligent decision. If your child continues to plead, just don't give in. It's your job to raise your children, not the games industry, and that means keeping an eye on what you plan on buying for your kid.
This lesson in basic parenting brought to you by BenzSmoke, a seventeen year old kid.
COMPLETELY AGREEBenzSmoke said:
It's like that Fox News bit on Mass Effect, parents need to actually watch and help their kids, that's what a parent does. If they wanted to see an R rated move when they were 10, you would say no, the same thing goes for M rated games...
ya this is dumb the parents who ***** are just bad parents its all been said before and will be said again
im making this as to the video: first off, in the first part why is lighting guys on fire and worse than girls? and WHAT THE FUCK IS WITH CALLING A GAME RACIST BECAUSE IT SHOWS BLACK PEOPLE STEROTYPES WHEN IT WAS MADE BY A BLACK PERSON?
im making this as to the video: first off, in the first part why is lighting guys on fire and worse than girls? and WHAT THE FUCK IS WITH CALLING A GAME RACIST BECAUSE IT SHOWS BLACK PEOPLE STEROTYPES WHEN IT WAS MADE BY A BLACK PERSON?
it could also be that they want to turn every game in Barbie,s horze adventuresuperbatranger said:
The problem is all studies indicate intelligence is neither exclusively genetic or a result of environment.TOGSolid said:
This is yet another piece of evidence for my theory: the vast, vast majority of people are uninformed, ignorant idiots.
Please for the love of god start parenting your kids and STFU. "Big Brother" can't do everything for you and kids with any morals in their heads can realize what's right from wrong and if their really smart, just avoid the "Ultra-violent" titles alltogether, and why do people always pick the horribly violent games that very few minors actually play? Your not gonna see some pre-pubescent kid go buy Postal 2. Being upset about Modern Warfare or something is fine, especially considering all the little kids I meet who say they play it. I ask them if their parents object and usually they'll say IDK or yes. If their parents don't like it why don't they ACT? Also, how come no one complains about this type of thing with other types of media? The internet has WAY worse things on it.
>_< I'm so unnerved by this. I know everyone on this site has probably just said what I'm saying (or more) but, I can't help it. Parent your kids Parents!
P.S. About the video: Racial stereotypes? THE'RE RAPPERS! Of course you label them as stereotypes because thats how you view every black person eh? If it was a game about a Mariachi band that was killing people, you'd say the same thing. If they didn't want to be racist towards their own race, THEN WHY WOULD THEY ACT THAT WAY!
(I'm surrounded by idiots . . .)
>_< I'm so unnerved by this. I know everyone on this site has probably just said what I'm saying (or more) but, I can't help it. Parent your kids Parents!
P.S. About the video: Racial stereotypes? THE'RE RAPPERS! Of course you label them as stereotypes because thats how you view every black person eh? If it was a game about a Mariachi band that was killing people, you'd say the same thing. If they didn't want to be racist towards their own race, THEN WHY WOULD THEY ACT THAT WAY!
(I'm surrounded by idiots . . .)
the 'public' are dumb as shit, inevitably if you ask their opinion you'll get a load of stupid bullshit back.
also the bit where the person playing postal 2 pissed on that girl then they threw up over them was funny as fuck. they got it wrong later though, you're supposed to set people on fire then piss on them.
also the bit where the person playing postal 2 pissed on that girl then they threw up over them was funny as fuck. they got it wrong later though, you're supposed to set people on fire then piss on them.
Boy I'm late to the party on this one and I'm not going to read the hundreds of posts so sorry if this had been brought up before but you know that the thing there not telling with the questions is that any law they make up will not do anything that the industry isn't already doing. You want stores to not sell M rated games to minors, outside of small stores that are few and far between now a days, it's all ready done. The only way to further "protect" your little Timmy is to censor it, and that would get dropped fast by the Constitution.
The funny thing to me is that I think if I was let's say 12 now a days, I think I could get porn, something that is illegal for some one that age, or cigarettes (Well, I'm in Massachusetts, where it's only illegal to sell them to a minor at the store, but can just hand them to anyone after... talk about pointless law) then I can get a copy of Halo Reach or something violent, but completely unrealistic like Naughty Bear.
I bet if you asked of the three, porn, cigarettes or Naughty Bear, the one worse for a kid to get there hands on, most of those would say the first two before a game where you kill teddy bears.
In a state that is bleeding money, this just screams "law for revenue". The only real law they can do is make it so that only adults can make the purchase of M rated games, something that there is no law for in R rated movies, but on both accounts it is hard to find a retailer that isn't already doing that so all the government is going to do is start sending in someone that is underage to try and buy a game like they do with cigarettes? Give me a break.
The funny thing to me is that I think if I was let's say 12 now a days, I think I could get porn, something that is illegal for some one that age, or cigarettes (Well, I'm in Massachusetts, where it's only illegal to sell them to a minor at the store, but can just hand them to anyone after... talk about pointless law) then I can get a copy of Halo Reach or something violent, but completely unrealistic like Naughty Bear.
I bet if you asked of the three, porn, cigarettes or Naughty Bear, the one worse for a kid to get there hands on, most of those would say the first two before a game where you kill teddy bears.
In a state that is bleeding money, this just screams "law for revenue". The only real law they can do is make it so that only adults can make the purchase of M rated games, something that there is no law for in R rated movies, but on both accounts it is hard to find a retailer that isn't already doing that so all the government is going to do is start sending in someone that is underage to try and buy a game like they do with cigarettes? Give me a break.
Your rebuttal does not address the reality of what I have said. You are grasping at straws. I never believe any poll I see anywhere, because I have already taking marketing classes and understand that they are just a tool to get people to believe whatever you want.boholikeu said:
FFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
I mad.
Let's see:
1.) The ESRB is not a required part of the video game process. The ESRB is voluntary and is intended to be the line of defense parents have against horrible violent video game content.
2.) A lot of parents tend to be apathetic don't-give-a-fucks who buy their kids whatever they want to get them to shut up for five minutes.
3.) Not selling games to minors ain't gonna do shit when their friends already have it because their parents are under point 2's category.
4.) The montage, as said on page one, was not about "the games' ultraviolence, but the player being a dick." And hell, most people who play video games try to beat them, not pointlessly torture pixels.
5.) WHOA GUYS. RACIAL STEREOTYPING IN SAN ANDREAS BECAUSE A BLACK GUY DID A CAR JACKING. GUESS THE OTHER GTA GAMES WHERE IT'S A WHITE GUY DOING IT ARE A-OK.
6.) Hahaha oh man racial stereotyping in 50 Cent. Fitty's a stereotype guys, CommonSense said it here.
7.) Manhunt was (putting on my interpretive literary cap here) a story about a man who's basically lost everything and is about to die, and is given one slim chance of survival, at the cost of being a sick fuck's snuff film star. The game isn't about the brutality, though the brutality is related. Plus, most of the enemies are either gangsters or criminals themselves (though you do have to kill cops at one point, if you're not a super awesome ninja. I know I'm not).
8.) Let's go back to GTA. The entire series is satire and stereotyping. It's just bad because they decided to go with not-Caucasian-male in one of the games for the sake of spicing it up. If there weren't a black protagonist, HOO-EE, THEY'S A RACIST FOR NOT HAVIN' A BLACK GUY.
And this is all I care to post on the subject before I go back to wondering why people who look at games for five minutes are allowed to determine what's what. We do not regulate movies or books this heavily. Hell, the director's cut of District 9 was just plain gratuitous with the lightning gun of instant body explosion.
The only difference between District 9 and Gears of War? You're not the one pulling the trigger on the lightning gun, you're the dude chainsawing a guy in half.
I mad.
Let's see:
1.) The ESRB is not a required part of the video game process. The ESRB is voluntary and is intended to be the line of defense parents have against horrible violent video game content.
2.) A lot of parents tend to be apathetic don't-give-a-fucks who buy their kids whatever they want to get them to shut up for five minutes.
3.) Not selling games to minors ain't gonna do shit when their friends already have it because their parents are under point 2's category.
4.) The montage, as said on page one, was not about "the games' ultraviolence, but the player being a dick." And hell, most people who play video games try to beat them, not pointlessly torture pixels.
5.) WHOA GUYS. RACIAL STEREOTYPING IN SAN ANDREAS BECAUSE A BLACK GUY DID A CAR JACKING. GUESS THE OTHER GTA GAMES WHERE IT'S A WHITE GUY DOING IT ARE A-OK.
6.) Hahaha oh man racial stereotyping in 50 Cent. Fitty's a stereotype guys, CommonSense said it here.
7.) Manhunt was (putting on my interpretive literary cap here) a story about a man who's basically lost everything and is about to die, and is given one slim chance of survival, at the cost of being a sick fuck's snuff film star. The game isn't about the brutality, though the brutality is related. Plus, most of the enemies are either gangsters or criminals themselves (though you do have to kill cops at one point, if you're not a super awesome ninja. I know I'm not).
8.) Let's go back to GTA. The entire series is satire and stereotyping. It's just bad because they decided to go with not-Caucasian-male in one of the games for the sake of spicing it up. If there weren't a black protagonist, HOO-EE, THEY'S A RACIST FOR NOT HAVIN' A BLACK GUY.
And this is all I care to post on the subject before I go back to wondering why people who look at games for five minutes are allowed to determine what's what. We do not regulate movies or books this heavily. Hell, the director's cut of District 9 was just plain gratuitous with the lightning gun of instant body explosion.
The only difference between District 9 and Gears of War? You're not the one pulling the trigger on the lightning gun, you're the dude chainsawing a guy in half.
FOR THE LAST DAMN TIME, READ THE FINE PRINT. 72% said they think the ESRB was doing a fair job. The people who took the survey combined "fair" with "poor." "Fair" means good enough. "Poor" means not good enough.TOGSolid said:
"3. How would you rate the videogame industry when it comes to protecting kids from accessing violent videogames? (Excellent/Good: Adults 12 percent, parents 13 percent; Fair/poor: Adults 76 percent, parents 75 percent)"
- Andy Chalk
This stuff makes me thoroughly, thoroughly hate poll takers. Fair and Poor are not the same damn thing. This is like having a poll and asking people "How would you rate the morality of your next door neighbors? Perfect/Saintly, or Decent/Evil?"