Well, if they had announced they were polling to a large audience, people might've come and sabotaged their cherry picking! That would be horrible!!Kuranesno7 said:
72 Percent of Adults Support California Game Law - UPDATED
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Cynical skeptic said:
Actually... If games are viewed as having some sort of artistic, eductional or political value, then you don't have to worry about offence material.
The actual law that we're talking about is the law to "Ban minors from buying violent videogames". Most likely this will entail people following the ESRB to find out what kids can and cannot buy. Note, this is MINORS.
And I'm not saying I want this law enforced, but honestly if a 14 year old walks into a gamestop and tries to buy Silent Hill, you'd better believe I'd want someone would card him.
If it came to keeping adults from buying games, let's be honest, that would never happen. The video game induustry is the most profitable industry out there and trying to stop their unoffensive creation would be like trying to stop people from making porn. IT WON'T HAPPEN.
Having lived in a country which bans the sales of aged rated content to people under the age of said rating all my life its hard for me to understand why this would be such a big blow for gaming (even after watching Extra Credits).
One question that I think will clear it up for me. Is the selling of movies rated for adults to minors also illegal?
One question that I think will clear it up for me. Is the selling of movies rated for adults to minors also illegal?
At first I was veeeeeeery worried about this.
Then I remembered I'm British
Still, what happens in the US affects us, because most of our leaders have been toadying wankers.
Incidentally, I'm thinking the for-games side of the argument should put together a similar montage, but of Ico, Braid, Portal etc.
Then I remembered I'm British
Still, what happens in the US affects us, because most of our leaders have been toadying wankers.Incidentally, I'm thinking the for-games side of the argument should put together a similar montage, but of Ico, Braid, Portal etc.
I like how that video showed all negative stereotypes of gaming and didn't mention that most of those things are optional, in GTA the game didn't tell me to kill some whores but not before I sexed them up, also I had never heard of Postal until know and it turns out you don't have to shoot and pee on everything in sight either! Why no videos of Littlebigplanet or Flower?!
Sorry, I'm not seeing your caption. I see the one that says Master Chief is not in the game.thefreeman0001 said:
Calumon: But we know your mad. *hug*
Somebody should ask these same people if they were aware of the parental settings and knew how to work them. The only reason parents want the games industry to control the sale of violent games is because they can't figure out how to turn on the parental settings on junior's xbox and aren't motivated enough to learn how to do it.
Well damn, chalk up another point for the crappy parents I guess, I'm just waiting for them to try to outlaw violent TV programming or something lol, I mean, it's not like 99% of the violence/rampant sex I saw as a kid wasn't on TV or anything >.>, fortunately for me though I had parents that were ACTUALLY PARENTS so I got a stern talking-to, and had a decent moral system in place for knowing that the crap people do on the magic moving picture box didn't necessarily pertain to real life lol
Ever since the MPAA was established, pretty much all big budget movies shoot for a PG-13 rating, because teenagers are the largest spending demographic of entertainment products.VanityGirl said:
The miller test goes above and beyond the relatively reasonable (if slightly moronic) restrictions of the PG-13 rating. The biggest problem being, once someone says, "yes, it offends me," they're going to say 'yes' to the following questions.
So, if this law passes, all the big publishers stop making M rated games. They likely won't be able to get away with T, either. As those are still likely to trip the miller test.
Also, it is illegal to ship obscene materials via interstate means. The qualification of "obscene?" You guessed it, the miller test. Which means it is illegal to ship pornography or any product intended for a purely sexual purpose through the USPS, UPS, or FEDex. Brown paper packaging dances around this law, but if you ordered something pornographic from a country that doesn't have this law or is aware of the US's law, you go to jail, directly to jail, do not pass GO. This law also, technically, makes internet pornography illegal. But network neutrality sidesteps that.
So, 72 percent of adults are shitty parents, in other words.
Rather than do their goddamn jobs, they'd just like to have the government regulate games.
What the hell!?
Rather than do their goddamn jobs, they'd just like to have the government regulate games.
What the hell!?
If parents want to be in control, then why aren't tehy doing anything? The whole point of the ratings is to see if something is suitable for your child, and as far as I know all consoles have at least some kind of parental control.
Though I must say, thanks to that video from Postal 2 the proposal suddenly makes a whole lot more sense. Who even likes doing... that?
Though I must say, thanks to that video from Postal 2 the proposal suddenly makes a whole lot more sense. Who even likes doing... that?
...Please tell me you corrected that assumption right?Matt_LRR said:
Suggested she get her son something else?
You misunderstood the law, then. In the UK, it's illegal for a store to supply a rated videogame (or a movie/magazine) to a minor who is below the age of the rating. You are not breaking the law. The store is. You would not be arrested for their failure to comply with the law.Jack and Calumon said:
A similar law to the one currently pending in California has been in effect in the UK for years now, and it makes absolutely no difference if you're an adult. For parents, it puts the power of supplying the game into their hands, not that of the store. The industry might self-regulate, that's not what's being discussed here, but there's no legal reason to - it's just a move to cover their backs.
If the ratings are done by an independent organisation (ESRB in the US, PEGI/BBFC in the UK, PEGI and various others in the EU) then you know it's not "the government trying to control everything" or something like that.
I don't think the law is necessary, nor do I think it's as big a deal as some are trying to make it seem. I do, however, think there should be an emphasis on educating rather than enforcing.
Iam i 15 year old kid i play violent video games like halo, cod, fallout,and i am perfecly fine. I think the california goverment is just trying to shift the blame for their problems to something else. it is like WW2 with the video games replacing the jews
I like this article... not only are the statistics highly suspect, but the very last part amused me the most. "What we've learned from this poll is that parents want to be the ones who decide which games their kids play, not the videogame industry." Or so they claim... what I'VE learned is that parents are RETARDS! You want to decide what your child can and cannot play? THEN DON'T BUY IT! That's your control right there.