9/11 conspiracies. Really, they still exist?

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shadowstriker86

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So i was bored and went on youtube watching commentaries for south park, and i listen to the one about the "mystery of the urinal deuce" and down below i see comments from people saying that it was the government that planted bombs in the building and that it wasnt planes that crashed into the buildings. Really? There are still retards out there that dont believe that terrorists were the ones who blew up the two towers? The biggest arguement being "fire cant melt steel". If i remember right i think thats how they made swords back in the dark ages. I dunno, im a bit tired at the moment so i cant remember the melting point of steel, but ya, i dont believe any of these conspiracies about 9/11, what about you ppls?
 

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Its just something that needs to die (no pun, if any, intended)
People need to realize that if it was a terrorist attack (not saying it isnt), then we have some right to hunt down whoever did that
If its not (again, not saying is was planned), then we dont have a right to be overseas
 

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Yes, there was a conspiracy by people who were decidedly against America to bring down two structures. Although that might have just been a "plan".
 

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Have you actually heard the elaborate plan these truthers believe was carried out? Its so many levels of stupid. My dad and i came up with a better plan in 2 hours of brainstorming. These truthers are stupid by definition.
 

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Well I'm not about to make any accusations or blame anybody, all I'm going to say is that I find it pretty fucking hard to believe that planes crashing into the towers near the top would cause them to collapse, esp. since one of 'em barely nicked the thing.
 

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NoMoreSanity said:
People have the right to believe what they want in this country. Sadly, that allows them to believe total bullshit like that without much opposition. That's the thing we all have to deal with.

And of course I don't believe those conspiracies, I'm an American, I believe everything my government tells me!... In America!
Amen Brother. There is no recession and we WILL find those nukes without torturing a single soul.
 

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shadowstriker86 said:
So i was bored and went on youtube watching commentaries for south park, and i listen to the one about the "mystery of the urinal deuce" and down below i see comments from people saying that it was the government that planted bombs in the building and that it wasnt planes that crashed into the buildings. Really? There are still retards out there that dont believe that terrorists were the ones who blew up the two towers? The biggest arguement being "fire cant melt steel". If i remember right i think thats how they made swords back in the dark ages. I dunno, im a bit tired at the moment so i cant remember the melting point of steel, but ya, i dont believe any of these conspiracies about 9/11, what about you ppls?
steel requires a very high melting point, higher than that of a normal fire(i know this cause i was doing research on how to smith metal because i want to make a sword lol)
the cause of the steel being melted was jet fuel. jet fuel from the crashed plane leaked out and created a much hotter fire, hot enough to melt steel.
 

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canadamus_prime said:
Well I'm not about to make any accusations or blame anybody, all I'm going to say is that I find it pretty fucking hard to believe that planes crashing into the towers near the top would cause them to collapse, esp. since one of 'em barely nicked the thing.
What do you mean by barely nicked the thing?
 

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grimsprice said:
canadamus_prime said:
Well I'm not about to make any accusations or blame anybody, all I'm going to say is that I find it pretty fucking hard to believe that planes crashing into the towers near the top would cause them to collapse, esp. since one of 'em barely nicked the thing.
What do you mean by barely nicked the thing?
If I recall the second plane to hit the second tower (which incidentally was the fist to collapse), barely nicked the corner of the tower, almost missed it completely.
 

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Stupidity will never die.

http://www.cracked.com/article_15740_p2.html


And here's this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcrF346sS_I
 

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shadowstriker86 said:
So i was bored and went on youtube watching commentaries for south park, and i listen to the one about the "mystery of the urinal deuce" and down below i see comments from people saying that it was the government that planted bombs in the building and that it wasnt planes that crashed into the buildings. Really? There are still retards out there that dont believe that terrorists were the ones who blew up the two towers? The biggest arguement being "fire cant melt steel". If i remember right i think thats how they made swords back in the dark ages. I dunno, im a bit tired at the moment so i cant remember the melting point of steel, but ya, i dont believe any of these conspiracies about 9/11, what about you ppls?
Have you ever seen the documentry "Loose Change ?" look it up on youtube because it perfectly explains how 9/11 was a inside job with great detail.

Oh and there are some obvious "WTF"'s in 9/11 because of the melting point of the structures metals and the fuel that was said to catch fire did not match up since kerosene ( I think thats the fuels name) burns with a lower tempreture then the metals boiling points.

as well as the obvious one. Buildings only collpase on them selves with controlled demoltion ! seriously if you see that way they fall considering they were hit by a damn plane it makes no sense to why the towers ended up falling in on them selves rather then breaking apart or toppling over.

but true fact is that there is more to 9/11 then what people say and the american goverment perfectly has the potential to do this since they did something similar back in the 50's (or 60's sorry don't know the exact date) ,, where a plan was made to frame cuba for attacking a airline with american citizans in it when really it was a dummy plane that would be flying over cuba and be there were bombs inside and they would be denonated remotely from another area, ofcourse this plan was never executed but it proves what there capable of now and watch that documentry if you want realistic answers.

(And another thing thats for sure they really pissed of the muslims for making them sound like terrorist)
 

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canadamus_prime said:
grimsprice said:
canadamus_prime said:
Well I'm not about to make any accusations or blame anybody, all I'm going to say is that I find it pretty fucking hard to believe that planes crashing into the towers near the top would cause them to collapse, esp. since one of 'em barely nicked the thing.
What do you mean by barely nicked the thing?
If I recall the second plane to hit the second tower (which incidentally was the fist to collapse), barely nicked the corner of the tower, almost missed it completely.
Both planes disappeared into the towers and didn't come out. The second did hit slightly off center, but the plane and all its jet fuel stayed in the tower. They were both solid hits.
 

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But of course there are still people claiming conspiracy. The JFK assassination and moon landing are over 40 years old and still people are calling conspiracy on those. I even heard once on the radio that Pearl Harbor was allowed to happen.

As for what I think? Well, as usual, the conspiracy theorists make good points, but can't prove a damn thing. I, for one, have trouble believing that a government as ineffectual as ours (see Hurricane Katrina response for more information) can commit large scale hoaxes or other acts.

But maybe that's what they want us to think...
 

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UNKNOWNINCOGNITO said:
shadowstriker86 said:
So i was bored and went on youtube watching commentaries for south park, and i listen to the one about the "mystery of the urinal deuce" and down below i see comments from people saying that it was the government that planted bombs in the building and that it wasnt planes that crashed into the buildings. Really? There are still retards out there that dont believe that terrorists were the ones who blew up the two towers? The biggest arguement being "fire cant melt steel". If i remember right i think thats how they made swords back in the dark ages. I dunno, im a bit tired at the moment so i cant remember the melting point of steel, but ya, i dont believe any of these conspiracies about 9/11, what about you ppls?
Have you ever seen the documentry "Loose Change ?" look it up on youtube because it perfectly explains how 9/11 was a inside job with great detail.
I did. It was the most idiotic thing I've ever watched.

<url=http://www.cracked.com/article_15740_was-911-inside-job.html>And here's why.
 

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UNKNOWNINCOGNITO said:
Have you ever seen the documentry "Loose Change ?" look it up on youtube because it perfectly explains how 9/11 was a inside job with great detail.

Oh and there are some obvious "WTF"'s in 9/11 because of the melting point of the structures metals and the fuel that was said to catch fire did not match up since kerosene ( I think thats the fuels name) burns with a lower tempreture then the metals boiling points.

as well as the obvious one. Buildings only collpase on them selves with controlled demoltion! Seriously if you see that way they fall considering they were hit by a damn plane it makes no sense to why the towers ended up falling in on them selves rather then breaking apart or toppling over.

but true fact is that there is more to 9/11 then what people say and the american goverment perfectly has the potential to do this since they did something similar back in the 50's (or 60's sorry don't know the exact date) ,, where a plan was made to frame cuba for attacking a airline with american citizans in it when really it was a plan that would be flying over cuba and be there were bombs inside and they would be denonated remotely from another area, ofcourse this plan was never executed but it proves what there capable of now and watch that documentry if you want realistic answers.

(And another thing thats for sure they really pissed of the muslims for making them sound like terrorist)
You know almost everything in "Loose Change" is either outright lies, misconceptions, or just plain inaccurate information right?

You do know that any metal exposed to even a very low heat over a time period of a couple hours will begin to bend and deform completely losing it's structuaral rigidity right? Seriuosly, if you don't believe go take a spoon and set your stove top to it's lowest setting and place the spoon on top of it. After an hour or two that spoon will bend and even snap in your hand if you mess with it too much.

You do know that buildings ESPECIALLY skyscrapers are incredible succeptible to collapse if their internal supports are weakened by fire right? The planes themselves heavily damaged the internal columns of the towers. The fire then weakened them further to the point where they couldn't support the towers immense weight any longer.

You do know that buildings during demolitions, again ESPECIALLY skyscrapers, are notoriously unpredictable and even demolition experts can't predict how a building will fall. Falling, floor by floor is not proof that demo charges destroyed it. All thats proof of is that one floor collapse onto the floor beneath it, which then couldn't suport the wieght of itself and the floor above it so it then collapsed, leading to a domino effect. Again not all demolitions fall like that and even if they did how the building fell had to do with physics and proved nothing.

You also do realize that a controlled demolition of the twin towers would take hunreds upon hundreds of pounds of explosives and weeks to setup. So they somehow smuggled in all those explosives, wired them up, installed fuses, all in not just one but TWO of the most active buildings on the planet and no one noticed?

Thats not mentioning that our gov't had no motives to do this, nor would our gov't even be able to pull off the elaborate scheme that "Loose Change" tries to insinuate that they do.

But you know those are just facts, who listens to facts when someones spinning a good story.

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thiosk said:
The government is able to pull off something like that? Forget motive-- we are talking about the same government right? the US government? The bay-of-pigs government?

Not likely.
HAH I shit you not thats exactly what I said when i first heard the conspiracy theory. Man the gov't wishes it was good enough to pull of the scheme this people try to spin.